Kings of Leon = Massively Overrated

Brainofdz wrote:

I completely disagree. I've had several experiences of not being crazy about a bands recordings but loving them live. Phish, Mogwai, and Blur come to mind but there are many more.

that's fine...i think they all deliver on their records though...

DeetroitBaasketball wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_leon

Most of the early work was co-written with Angelo Petraglia (producer). Pretty sure no producer in the history of rock has ever helped a band out with writing, clearly these guys are pretty weak.

And catefrances, I asked a question about that too and haven't gotten a response. How could a record label put together people who are related? Didn't their parents already do that?

you'd be wrong about a producer NOT helping a band with 'writing'. it's not that rare an occurrence. and with one as green in the studio as KoL im not surprised. but HOW MUCH did he help, thats what i want to know. btw, it clearly states on youth and young manhood that ALL songs were arranged by ethan johns and angelo. not to mention where it says ALL songs written by nathan followill, caleb followill and angelo so there you go.

dg1979us wrote:

Caleb and Nathan ( I believe) were in Nashville trying to be a country singers. A producer thought they would fit in better with a rock band. They were given a contract and told to find bandmates and the producer was going to steer them in more a rock direction. So, they just got family members to be in the band with them. I live in Nashville, and this was not a band who grew up playing the clubs or anything like that. Caleb had a record deal before he ever had a band.

OMG!!! that's it? that's the argument? sounds like what sony did with jeff buckley. find a band boy, you're gonna need one.
gorgeoeus boys(clearly with at least some talent) playing music, who wouldnt see an opportunity to steer them? we're not exactly talking the spice girls here, are we?

catefrances wrote:

OMG!!! that's it? that's the argument? sounds like what sony did with jeff buckley. find a band boy, you're gonna need one.
gorgeoeus boys(clearly with at least some talent) playing music, who wouldnt see an opportunity to steer them? we're not exactly talking the spice girls here, are we?

No, Im not making them out to be the spice girls, probably more along the lines of Bush or something. Im just not sure they are completely authentic and not sure there isnt someone behind them at least pulling some of the strings. They go from country, to rock, and get a record deal (before they even had the full band), and have a country writer co-write there first EP and first full length, and then produced AHA shake. Sorry, just makes me wonder what they would be, if anything, if not for Angelo Petraglia. Like I said earlier, I think the songs are pretty good and they are a good solid band. I dont think they are anything overly inventive or earth shattering, but definately a solid band. Just not sure how much of it is them, and how much is someone pulling the strings behind them.

KOL rock... period.

This band can rock any of your lame asses live. I should know, they did mine.

For me because of the times, is my favorite album of the year so far. i saw them last week in Philly and they were fucking increible, the lead singer was really sick and was doing a shot of honey after each song and he still sounded amazing, and the music was so hard rocking

trappedinmyradio wrote:

you're quoting The Band in your location status...so, you're cool me...so, how did you find out that a band that is shit on record was good live? you saw them live before you listened to their record?

yes.
i'd been seeing them live for a couple of years before, and was eagerly awaiting their debut album. unfortunately they didnt translate all that well. it was a disappointment cause they rock live. and there's only two of them. perhaps they should release a live album.

trappedinmyradio wrote:

if you can't capture your vision, that you have already captured live, on record...then i'll find another band to watch live...

but they rock live.
funny thing is a couple of months ago i was actually talking with the band at an unrelated gig and asked them when they were playing live again, cause you know it's been like 6 months. they said they were recording another album. i tell you, my heart just fell. so me being me insistently asked, 'so does that mean you're not playing live anytime soon?' they said no. :(

dharma69 wrote:

KOL translated just fine live last night and I think I have the bruised ribs to prove it.

I've never seen them play where they didn't.

me neither. and ive not seen any overseas band more than ive seen KoL.

fyi. im australian.