Kings of Leon = Massively Overrated

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  • ReleasHReleasH Posts: 743
    Obviously you are completely entitled to your opinion, but I would suggest listening to one of their live shows over their albums ... for example, I despise the album version of Charmer (it's like nails on a chalkboard), but it is much better live. I personally wouldn't say they are overrated, but maybe overhyped.
  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    One of my favourite bands from the past ten years or so, like the newest album best of all.
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  • Probably 3/4 people that I know who've listened to it love it and the other 25% have your opinion about it (thread starter).

    I don't consider it anything earth shattering, but I think it's an ace album from a band that gets ten times better with every record they make.
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  • I think they're pretty talented, but the song "On Call" is pretty fucking terrible.
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  • ReleasH wrote:
    Obviously you are completely entitled to your opinion, but I would suggest listening to one of their live shows over their albums ... for example, I despise the album version of Charmer (it's like nails on a chalkboard), but it is much better live. I personally wouldn't say they are overrated, but maybe overhyped.

    if you don't think that a band can deliver on record then you shouldn't waste your time with their live set...
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  • dg1979us wrote:
    I havent really heard the new album, but I did enjoy the last few. In saying that, they are a band put together by a record label and I have read they had much help in writing at least their first few albums, which makes me lose some respect for them.

    I understand that they've had some help in writing songs, but how did a record label put them together? They are 3 brothers and a cousin.
  • kdpjamkdpjam Posts: 2,303
    i dunno if they are overrated or not. kind of on the fence regarding that. they were damn good live a few weeks back tho!!!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    hmm who cares? who listens to hype anyway? alls i know is ive been digging the kings of leon for nigh on 4 years(so that would be before the 'hype') and it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks.
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  • hmm who cares? who listens to hype anyway? alls i know is ive been digging the kings of leon for nigh on 4 years(so that would be before the 'hype') and it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks.
    Me too. From the moment I heard "California Waiting".
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  • i fully agree. industry-made crap band. i admit, they tricked me into buying their first record cause i thought it was authentic, and then i realized what a huge waste of $14 i made.
  • BrainofdzBrainofdz Posts: 1,617
    if you don't think that a band can deliver on record then you shouldn't waste your time with their live set...

    I completely disagree. I've had several experiences of not being crazy about a bands recordings but loving them live. Phish, Mogwai, and Blur come to mind but there are many more.
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  • Brainofdz wrote:
    I completely disagree. I've had several experiences of not being crazy about a bands recordings but loving them live. Phish, Mogwai, and Blur come to mind but there are many more.

    mogwai's dope. good call.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Brainofdz wrote:
    I completely disagree. I've had several experiences of not being crazy about a bands recordings but loving them live. Phish, Mogwai, and Blur come to mind but there are many more.

    agree. one of my fave live bands is crap on record. which imo is a damn shame. :)
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  • you do not open for pearl jam and U2 if you are a shit band, i am sorry to those that dislike them

    Dont forget Bob Dylan haha

    And I saw them tonight, went in only knowing On Call and Knocked Up...had a sick ass time they were real good
  • bharQbharQ Posts: 1,201
    I used to consider them some kind of strokes rip off but that changed when i heard the new album.... after a few listens i really really loved it.. and now like a lot of their older stuff as well.. lookin forward to them at lolla
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    bharQ wrote:
    I used to consider them some kind of strokes rip off but that changed when i heard the new album.... after a few listens i really really loved it.. and now like a lot of their older stuff as well.. lookin forward to them at lolla

    funnily enough the first time i saw the kings of leon live in 04, they were supporting the strokes. i was beyond thrilled.
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  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    Got to say I love all three albums, certainly not overrated, especially given the mammoth amount of dog turd around these days.
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    If they hadn't been a PJ support band no body would mention them.

    1. king of leon are big in the UK much bigger than the US

    2. they are of the better bands going round making better new music than possibly pj is right now

    3. who says they had help writing their songs? I doubt ths VERY MUCH...
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Zoso wrote:
    3. who says they had help writing their songs? I doubt ths VERY MUCH...


    same people that say they were put together by a record company i imagine. ;):)
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  • Zoso wrote:
    3. who says they had help writing their songs? I doubt ths VERY MUCH...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_leon

    Most of the early work was co-written with Angelo Petraglia (producer). Pretty sure no producer in the history of rock has ever helped a band out with writing, clearly these guys are pretty weak.

    And catefrances, I asked a question about that too and haven't gotten a response. How could a record label put together people who are related? Didn't their parents already do that?
  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_leon

    Most of the early work was co-written with Angelo Petraglia (producer). Pretty sure no producer in the history of rock has ever helped a band out with writing, clearly these guys are pretty weak.

    And catefrances, I asked a question about that too and haven't gotten a response. How could a record label put together people who are related? Didn't their parents already do that?

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  • Maybe week when they started, but we all grow, I look back at the stuff poetry/lyrics/philosophy I used to write when I was between the age of 16 and 23 and compared to the stuff I write now it is amazing the difference, the maturity and the growth that has happened as I have got older.

    Yeah, I was being sarcastic...
  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    Yeah, I was being sarcastic...

    Sorry, sometimes sarcasm wizzes by me on the pit.:)
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Cornell is overrated... KOL are just one of the 3 best bands currently strumming instruments.

    great sound, songs, beats, jeans, genes and Caleb has a marmite voice... i love it but others hate it...

    if you dont get KOL then thats fine... :):)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    Zoso wrote:
    1. king of leon are big in the UK much bigger than the US

    2. they are of the better bands going round making better new music than possibly pj is right now

    3. who says they had help writing their songs? I doubt ths VERY MUCH...


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  • pjhabitpjhabit Posts: 211
    I have been turned on to a number of great bands thanks to this forum, including My Morning Jacket, and Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and am always willing to give a new band a listen
    So is this "hype" coming from us or are they all over MTV & the radio now?... (Thats a serious quesion, i don't have cable & never listen to radio.) Anyway, maybe you should catch them on this tour. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club is opening for them so I wouldn't be a complet waist. And I'd bet you'd come out a KOL fan too. I just don't get how you could dig BRMC & just so easily wright off KOL. Well at the very least go give Because of the Times anouther listen. ~Peace
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  • KellerKeller Posts: 177
    They have to be my favorite band making music right now. The new cd is amazing. Although i was a bit disappointed in the live show. Don't get me wrong it was a hell of a show but i just think they could have done alot more with their songs, especialy the new ones. I would like to see them jam them out a bit more.
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  • Its kind of hard to get a discussion going when the title says "massively overrated". Not much to talk about then, you have pretty much made up your mind.

    I personally think they are one of the best bands out in the last 4 years. So what if they had a little help writing songs in the beginning? I think they continue to mature and I feel their albums reflect that. Their shows have great energy. And to open up for Bob Dylan, U2, and Pearl Jam, doesn't seem overrated to me. And people were definitely talking about them well before they opened up for any of these bands.

    But good for you stating your opinion.
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  • PJ Habit wrote:
    So is this "hype" coming from us or are they all over MTV & the radio now?... (Thats a serious quesion, i don't have cable & never listen to radio.) Anyway, maybe you should catch them on this tour. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club is opening for them so I wouldn't be a complet waist. And I'd bet you'd come out a KOL fan too. I just don't get how you could dig BRMC & just so easily wright off KOL. Well at the very least go give Because of the Times anouther listen. ~Peace

    The "hype" definetely came from the boards for me. I don't watch MTV at all, and rarely ever listen to the radio either. I had never even heard of KOL before reading about them on here, but same goes for MMJ. I don't know, perhaps seeing them live would help, I guess I just did not connect with Because of the Times, and I have listened to it several times, as I kept thinking 'this will click', but it just hasn't. Can't really explain why, like I said, the music isn't terrible, I just find it rather annoying personally.
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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    meh, so are stone temple pilots, the police, tom petty, chris cornell, the doors, ccr, rush, and the list goes on....

    doesnt mean i'm going to make a thread to state thats what i think.


    Kings of Leon are a current band....hence the reason the thread is relevant.
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