Matt is second best drummer.

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  • smokeabud
    smokeabud Posts: 253
    hoopinman wrote:
    but wait...how does Carey hold up to John Bonham???? Or Ginger Baker??? Or Buddy Rich??? Or Anyone who played with Frank Zappa(Terry Bozzio,Vinnie Colaiuta,Chester Thompson or Chad Wackerman)

    OR HOW ABOUT KEITH MOON??????


    its a relative answer...Danny Carey is good...but is he better?? Many could debate this for days....lets just say they are all good in their own ways.

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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=OSD_Clm69LM
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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    Stephen Flow wrote:
    Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time imo.
    love peart, but mike portnoy is more gifted.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    BinFrog wrote:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=OSD_Clm69LM

    While I love Neil Peart, and his studio work is obviously some of the best, I can't consider him the best. Its a known fact, and if you listen to this, and the studio version of YYZ you'll hear it, he does NO improvisation whatsoever. And for me, an important part of live music, and drumming, is the ability to improvise.
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  • RedMosquito02
    RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    Buddy Rich has the quickest hands to have ever held a pair of sticks...

    C'mon, Danny Carey? I mean he's AMAZING....to say he's the best is just plain ignorant.

    I mean he's technical and solid, but seriously, go listen to some Zappa, then come back and comment...

    Neil Pert, number 1 on that list, weird....so cliche
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  • RedMosquito02
    RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    Didn't Danny take lessons from Pert as a child?

    Anyone...???
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    yosi wrote:
    While I love Neil Peart, and his studio work is obviously some of the best, I can't consider him the best. Its a known fact, and if you listen to this, and the studio version of YYZ you'll hear it, he does NO improvisation whatsoever. And for me, an important part of live music, and drumming, is the ability to improvise.


    The point of YYZ is not to improvise. You don't 'get' Rush with a statement like that. I've seen him improv before, he can do it.

    His solos are pieces of music, not a spur of the moment jam.

    I don't consider him the best, but in the realm of rock he is damn near king.

    Som jazz guys, obviously, are in a world of their own. Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, Lenny White, Steve Smith, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, etc.
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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    from both sides of your argument mike portnoy is better.
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  • appliedlesson
    appliedlesson Posts: 237
    Stephen Flow wrote:
    Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time imo.

    what he said.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    BinFrog wrote:
    The point of YYZ is not to improvise. You don't 'get' Rush with a statement like that. I've seen him improv before, he can do it.

    His solos are pieces of music, not a spur of the moment jam.

    I don't consider him the best, but in the realm of rock he is damn near king.

    Som jazz guys, obviously, are in a world of their own. Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, Lenny White, Steve Smith, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, etc.

    Please don't tell me whether or not I "get" Rush. And I wasn't commenting on YZZ in particular, I only quoted you because it was a good indication of what I was talking about. Not the solo, but the rest of the song is exactly the same as the studio version.

    Also, I'm not taking anything away from his technical ability, he is a fucking beast. And I get what his solos are about.

    But I think improvisation is important. And its known, that he doesn't improvise. To say you've seen him do it makes me think, maybe you don't "get" Rush.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • Kami
    Kami Posts: 100
    i'm really NOT that knowledgeable when it comes to drummers, but i've always thought that josh freese, keith moon and travis barker were amaaaazing.

    also brooks wackerman of bad religion.
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    yosi wrote:
    But I think improvisation is important. And its known, that he doesn't improvise. To say you've seen him do it makes me think, maybe you don't "get" Rush.


    Rush is my other favorite band, I've seen them 15 times, I ran a Rush website for years, have tons of bootlegs, lots of memorabilia and have been a fan since I was like 14. I am pretty sure I get Rush.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    bigshasha wrote:
    matt is second only to jack

    I agree. It was so great seeing Jack play live for the first time on Sunday.
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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    BinFrog wrote:
    Rush is my other favorite band, I've seen them 15 times, I ran a Rush website for years, have tons of bootlegs, lots of memorabilia and have been a fan since I was like 14. I am pretty sure I get Rush.
    Gotta love that memrobilia, it just speaks knowledge all over it. I wish I had more pj stuff than maybee I would understand matts drumming skills.

    hahaha
    I had too , and you mention measage boards, christ I swear this place makes me less knowledgeable on pearl jam, after a few months on here I start thinking about some of the crazy shit that is on here, and confuse it with actual data I read elsewhere.

    peace.
    I can see both of you know what you like and its obvious you know what your talking about but mike portnoy is better, and yos improvising doesn nothing for me, this is why i like matt and neil better, they stick to their beats pretty much the same way, except in jams, and dont give me the he cant theroy, becasue sometimes in the structure of a rock song, it is good to have consistancy, and ruSH was consistant, and they were more rock than progressive.
    And jazz is cool but not in pearl jam, funk either, i mean its cool in spots, but sometimes music doesnot need another fuse in it, like you saud riot act is your favorite, over all that is their simplist album, not a whole lot of fusing togehter of differant sounds or chords.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    nowayimfaithfull wrote:
    I can see both of you know what you like and its obvious you know what your talking about but mike portnoy is better, and yos improvising doesn nothing for me, this is why i like matt and neil better, they stick to their beats pretty much the same way, except in jams, and dont give me the he cant theroy, becasue sometimes in the structure of a rock song, it is good to have consistancy, and ruSH was consistant, and they were more rock than progressive.

    Matt improvises all the time.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    yosi wrote:
    Matt improvises all the time.


    well try this comon

    everyone says dave a was better becasue he inprovised more, and he did, matt sticks to the beats of the songs more than dave did, and neil peart does more than lets say a carter bufrord.
    with matt you can always count on a cetain beat to come, with dave they would get lost, and he would hit what was closest
    now this is over the course of a song
    i have a hard time listening to dave live
    matt is so much predidctable, and when pj is busting out a chorus, or a breakdown matts drumming stays consistant commparred to dave.
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    nowayimfaithfull wrote:
    Gotta love that memrobilia, it just speaks knowledge all over it. I wish I had more pj stuff than maybee I would understand matts drumming skills.


    I deserve that ;)

    Another rock drummer that deserves praise: Tim Alexander from Primus/etc.
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
    Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
  • EvilMerlin
    EvilMerlin Posts: 1,865
    You're all crazy! As I said in the other music section:

    It's Blake Richardson and Gil Sharone! Duhhhh
  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    BinFrog wrote:
    I deserve that ;)

    Another rock drummer that deserves praise: Tim Alexander from Primus/etc.

    soup for you

    primus are great musicians from start to finish.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Well either way, this guy is my favorite.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=lOW8A-MxE50&feature=related
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.

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