Matt is second best drummer.

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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    yosi wrote:
    Well either way, this guy is my favorite.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=lOW8A-MxE50&feature=related
    how dare you skip over my post

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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    nowayimfaithfull wrote:
    how dare you skip over my post

    no soup for you

    :D

    I'm tired and kind of just wanted to move away from arguing :p Matt may be more consistent than Dave A, but he definitely improvises on a nightly basis.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • hoopinman
    hoopinman Posts: 294
    improvisation DOES NOT make a drummer...and if thats your basis on what makes them good.....someone needs to quick smoking dope and go listen to some FRANK ZAPPA!


    Zappa's music was all charted out....theres no improvisation except in FRANK'S SOLOS!!!!!


    why you guys are even arguing this makes me laugh....Like I said earlier.....its a relative answer....everyone is gonna have a different say so..I think Neil Peart pales in comparison to Buddy Rich,Billy Cobham,Lenny White, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Gene Krupa and Max Roach.(and those are just the jazz guys)

    Even compared to Clyde Stubblefield from the JBs in the 70s or Zigaboo Modeliste from the Meters Peart looks like a fool. But Im sure someeon will argue that too.....even though Stubblefield and Zigaboo play funk,cause I have never heard Neil Peart play "Funkky Drummer" or "Cissy Strut"
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    hoopinman wrote:
    improvisation DOES NOT make a drummer...and if thats your basis on what makes them good.....someone needs to quick smoking dope and go listen to some FRANK ZAPPA!

    Obviously it doesn't affect their studio work, and a drummer can be great without improvisation. I just think that good improvisation can take the drummer to the next level.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    hoopinman wrote:

    Buddy Rich,Billy Cobham,Lenny White, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Gene Krupa and Max Roach.(and those are just the jazz guys)

    Rich, Cobham, Williams and Krupa are all badass.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wfVhwPnjeQ
  • hoopinman
    hoopinman Posts: 294
    and need I remind anyone of Pearl Jam's drummer Matt Chamberlain

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tiNDgk-zAs
  • ii44
    ii44 Posts: 430
    i like matt.c wrote:
    Matt's got class. I love how he brings odd timing and a jazz influenced style to PJ.

    Exactly. I have no idea if he's the best drummer, or how to even determine that. I think a lot of Matt's greatness is lost on a lot of people because what he does so brilliantly is subtle. I know that he is certainly one of the most versatile in rock-- I can listen to anything from the Beatles to Metallica and think to myself "Jesus, Matt Cameron would rip this song a new asshole."
  • cc10106
    cc10106 Posts: 385
    Matt constantly achieved greatness in the studio while drumming with Soundgarden. their music lent itself to more skilled and diverse drumming patterns/meter so he could show off his skills much more then. IMO, PJ's music is less complex overall so Matt's had to prove himself in other ways. in particular, he's shined in the songwriting and vocals department. i think he's really added another dimension to PJ's live show in that regard. he fits the band nicely, but make no mistake, his peak was with Soundgarden.
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    cc10106 wrote:
    Matt constantly achieved greatness in the studio while drumming with Soundgarden. their music lent itself to more skilled and diverse drumming patterns/meter so he could show off his skills much more then. IMO, PJ's music is less complex overall so Matt's had to prove himself in other ways. in particular, he's shined in the songwriting and vocals department. i think he's really added another dimension to PJ's live show in that regard. he fits the band nicely, but make no mistake, his peak was with Soundgarden.

    I agree with this. Although i thought he started flexing his drumming a little more with pj's latest album, but nothing like he was able to do in soundgarden.

    That said i've always thought that some of the best drummers tend to gravitate toward jazz or metal.

    A couple metal guys i love who i think blow away most are Flo (cryptopsy) and Brann (mastodon)

    I'm not going to say they are the best but they tend to impress me a lot.

    i do like danny carey a lot too. When tool was in town danny and brann did dueling drum solo's on stage together which was really cool during the middle section of Lateralius.
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  • originalfire
    originalfire Posts: 61
    Dave Garibaldi's the greatest drummer, close thread.
  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKm9YVlOXD0

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  • Towsertunes
    Towsertunes Posts: 187
    hoopinman wrote:

    OR HOW ABOUT KEITH MOON????

    you got that right Hoop.
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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    yosi wrote:
    :D

    I'm tired and kind of just wanted to move away from arguing :p Matt may be more consistent than Dave A, but he definitely improvises on a nightly basis.


    any musicin would, but with dave thats all he had some nightes, but hey it worked out well enough, but i love structure.
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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    hoopinman wrote:
    improvisation DOES NOT make a drummer...and if thats your basis on what makes them good.....someone needs to quick smoking dope and go listen to some FRANK ZAPPA!


    Zappa's music was all charted out....theres no improvisation except in FRANK'S SOLOS!!!!!


    why you guys are even arguing this makes me laugh....Like I said earlier.....its a relative answer....everyone is gonna have a different say so..I think Neil Peart pales in comparison to Buddy Rich,Billy Cobham,Lenny White, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Gene Krupa and Max Roach.(and those are just the jazz guys)

    Even compared to Clyde Stubblefield from the JBs in the 70s or Zigaboo Modeliste from the Meters Peart looks like a fool. But Im sure someeon will argue that too.....even though Stubblefield and Zigaboo play funk,cause I have never heard Neil Peart play "Funkky Drummer" or "Cissy Strut"


    I just love when people have to go to such high levels to prove fucking points.

    Obviously joe drunmskin in the 20's, and buddy vederland, in the fucking 1800's was just amazing.

    We are talking about rock drummers, and what neil peart and mat cam do in their bands is very good, and for neil original.
    Remeber rush started off as a simple rock band, and neil revolutionized the rock drummer, into progressive standards.
    matt did the same thing with grunge, he did a lot of consistant structured drumming in a very grovvy lose jam band sound, for all 3 of his bands, he clearley took the music to another level.

    Take all the zappa drummers, the portnoys, and all these crazy ass drummers, sure they are better, but sometimes they are all dressed up with nowhere to go.they just take every song over, that is not rock.

    matt and neil, slip into very basic rock bands and elevate their overall sound without dressing their style up or taking the music over.
    Its rock and roll when it comes down to it, very likeable music.
    Sometimes these threads just get to fucking crazy to fast.
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  • whulmef
    whulmef Posts: 176
    suns rival wrote:
    the best drummer of all time

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWoW5JB2PTg

    I have to bump this. Funnier than anything. My mouth cramped up laughing at this shit.
  • superdeluxe
    superdeluxe Posts: 119
    Jimmy Chamberlin
  • rhcpjam1029
    rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,982
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Matt can bring it for sure but the best is by far Danny Carey from TOOL. I know youre biased for Matt cause of PJ and all but if you listen and check out some stuff from the internet, you'll see that Danny is the best around. When Danny plays, you KNOW it.

    agreed.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Matt can bring it for sure but the best is by far Danny Carey from TOOL. I know youre biased for Matt cause of PJ and all but if you listen and check out some stuff from the internet, you'll see that Danny is the best around. When Danny plays, you KNOW it.
    Holy shit... I agree with you.
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    I'd like to mention Sean Kinney too. No one ever talks about him. :(

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