Matt is second best drummer.

Spinbrett

Matt can bring it for sure but the best is by far Danny Carey from TOOL. I know youre biased for Matt cause of PJ and all but if you listen and check out some stuff from the internet, you'll see that Danny is the best around. When Danny plays, you KNOW it.

hoopinman

but wait...how does Carey hold up to John Bonham???? Or Ginger Baker??? Or Buddy Rich??? Or Anyone who played with Frank Zappa(Terry Bozzio,Vinnie Colaiuta,Chester Thompson or Chad Wackerman)

OR HOW ABOUT KEITH MOON??????


its a relative answer...Danny Carey is good...but is he better?? Many could debate this for days....lets just say they are all good in their own ways.

LikeAnOcean

Spinbrett wrote:

Matt can bring it for sure but the best is by far Danny Carey from TOOL. I know youre biased for Matt cause of PJ and all but if you listen and check out some stuff from the internet, you'll see that Danny is the best around. When Danny plays, you KNOW it.

I'm sorry, but Danny Carey doesn't hold a candle to either of these guys..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uhbxN4NO38k

suns rival

the best drummer of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWoW5JB2PTg

yosi1

Spinbrett wrote:

Matt can bring it for sure but the best is by far Danny Carey from TOOL. I know youre biased for Matt cause of PJ and all but if you listen and check out some stuff from the internet, you'll see that Danny is the best around. When Danny plays, you KNOW it.

Out of which drummers? Those two?

joebot

suns rival wrote:

the best drummer of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWoW5JB2PTg

That was fuckin hilarious !! Well done !

nowayimfaithfull

i love those 2 guys cam and carey, but cmon there are way better drummers on the planet

Spinbrett

FEEL HIS POWER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUcdMva9RnQ

and NO the korean dont have nothin on danny

UpSideDown

MATT! MATT! MATT! MATT! MATT! MATT!


Best facial expressions ever.

Spinbrett

FEEL HIS RAGE!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eRaxQeirgWk&feature=related

Evolution6579

I dont know. I would like to think that Matt is a professional and practices and plays a LOT. Danny Carey obviously does. They are both drum machines with skin attached.

Jimmydean55

I'm going to have to say Jimmy Chamberlin.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v3jFkcAxSws

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3NPhnN8dpQ

Stephen Flow

Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time imo.

hoopinman

for the sake of conversation...this was Drummer Worlds top 100 rock drummers(note....no jazz cats AT ALL)....discuss amongst yourselves..and these were voted BY DRUMMERS


1. Neil Peart (Rush)
2. John Bonham* (Led Zeppelin)
3. Carl Palmer (ELP)
4. Keith Moon* (The Who)
5. Terry Bozzio (Frank Zappa)
6. Ginger Baker (Cream)
7. Hal Blaine (Session man)
8. Danny Carey (Tool)
9. Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson)
10. Earl Palmer (Session man)
11. Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
12. Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
13. Benny Benjamin* (Funk Brothers)
14. Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
15. Carmine Appice (Vanilla Fudge)
16. Tommy Aldridge (Ozzy Osbourne)
17. Stewart Copeland (The Police)
18. Bernard Purdie (Session)
19. Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa)
20. Jeff Porcaro* (Toto)
21. Bill Ward (Black Sabbath)
22. David Garabaldi (Tower Of Power)
23. Ainsley Dunbar (Jeff Beck)
24. Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden)
25. Mike Shrieve (Santana)
26. Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix)
27. Steve Smith (Journey)
28. Al Jackson* (The MGs)
29. Matt Cameron (Soundgarden)
30. Tim Alexander (Primus)
31. Jim Keltner (Session man)
32. Phil Collins (Genesis)
33. Cozy Powell* (Rainbow)
34. Simon Phillips (Toto)
35. Russ Kunkel (Session man)
36. Bobby Jarzombeck (Rob Halford)
37. Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews)
38. Zigaboo Modeliste (The Meters)
39. Jimmy Chamberlain (Smashing Pumpkins)
40. Vinnie Paul (Pantera)
41. Kenny Aronoff (Session man)
42. Alan White (Yes)
43. Mike Giles (King Crimson)
44. Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs)
45. Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
46. Mike Mangini (Extreme)
47. Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
48. Roger Hawkins (Arethra Franklin)
49. Bobby Elliot (The Hollies)
50. Alex Van Halen (Van Halen)
51. BJ Wilson* Procul Harum)
52. Joe Franco (Good Rats)
53. Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones)
54. Virgil Donati (Planet X)
55. Roger Taylor (Queen)
56. Chad Wackerman (Zappa)
57. Topper Headon (The Clash)
58. Nick Barker (Dimmu Borgir)
59. Mick Fleetwood (Fleetwood Mac)
60. Danny Seraphine (Chicago)
61. Gene Holgan (Death)
62. John Densmore (The Doors)
63. Max Weinberg (Springsteen)
64. Jabo Starks (James Brown)
65. Lars Ulrich (Metallica)
66. Jerry Allison (Crickets)
67. Phil Ehart (Kansas)
68. Chester Thompson (Santana)
69. Matt McDonoughe (Mudvayne)
70. Dean Castronovo (Journey)
71. Jon Theodore (Mars Volta)
72. Van Romaine (Steve Morse)
73. Ralph Humphrey (Mothers Of Invention)
74. Les Lester (Los Straightjackets)
75. Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
76. Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
77. Dick Richards (The Comets)
78. Josh Freese (A Perfect Circle)
79. Stanton Moore (Galactic)
80. Joey Jordison (Slipknot)
81. Ron Wilson* (Surfaris)
82. Jack Irons (Pearl Jam)
83. Jim Gordon (Derek And The Dominoes)
84. Nick Mason (Pink Floyd)
85. Eddie Bayers (Session man)
86. Jeff Campitelli (Joe Satriani)
87. Dave Grohl (Nirvana)
88. Bobby Rondinelli (Rainbow)
89. Chris Frantz (Talking Heads)
90. Mike Bordin (Faith No More)
91. Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters)
92. Lee Kerslake (Uriah Heep)
93. Phil Selway (Radiohead)
94. Vinnie Appice (Black Sabbath, Dio)
95. Scott Rockenfield (Queensryche)
96. Chad Smith (Red Hot Chilli Peppers)
97. Nick Menza (Megadeth)
98. John Dalmayan (System Of A Down)
99. Travis Barker (Blink 182)
100. Ralph Salmins (Session man)

IWillLiveForeve

hoopinman wrote:

for the sake of conversation...this was Drummer Worlds top 100 rock drummers(note....no jazz cats AT ALL)....discuss amongst yourselves..and these were voted BY DRUMMERS


1. Neil Peart (Rush)
2. John Bonham* (Led Zeppelin)
3. Carl Palmer (ELP)
4. Keith Moon* (The Who)
5. Terry Bozzio (Frank Zappa)
6. Ginger Baker (Cream)
7. Hal Blaine (Session man)
8. Danny Carey (Tool)
9. Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson)
10. Earl Palmer (Session man)
11. Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
12. Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
13. Benny Benjamin* (Funk Brothers)
14. Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
15. Carmine Appice (Vanilla Fudge)
16. Tommy Aldridge (Ozzy Osbourne)
17. Stewart Copeland (The Police)
18. Bernard Purdie (Session)
19. Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa)
20. Jeff Porcaro* (Toto)
21. Bill Ward (Black Sabbath)
22. David Garabaldi (Tower Of Power)
23. Ainsley Dunbar (Jeff Beck)
24. Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden)
25. Mike Shrieve (Santana)
26. Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix)
27. Steve Smith (Journey)
28. Al Jackson* (The MGs)
29. Matt Cameron (Soundgarden)
30. Tim Alexander (Primus)
31. Jim Keltner (Session man)
32. Phil Collins (Genesis)
33. Cozy Powell* (Rainbow)
34. Simon Phillips (Toto)
35. Russ Kunkel (Session man)
36. Bobby Jarzombeck (Rob Halford)
37. Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews)
38. Zigaboo Modeliste (The Meters)
39. Jimmy Chamberlain (Smashing Pumpkins)
40. Vinnie Paul (Pantera)
41. Kenny Aronoff (Session man)
42. Alan White (Yes)
43. Mike Giles (King Crimson)
44. Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs)
45. Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
46. Mike Mangini (Extreme)
47. Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
48. Roger Hawkins (Arethra Franklin)
49. Bobby Elliot (The Hollies)
50. Alex Van Halen (Van Halen)
51. BJ Wilson* Procul Harum)
52. Joe Franco (Good Rats)
53. Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones)
54. Virgil Donati (Planet X)
55. Roger Taylor (Queen)
56. Chad Wackerman (Zappa)
57. Topper Headon (The Clash)
58. Nick Barker (Dimmu Borgir)
59. Mick Fleetwood (Fleetwood Mac)
60. Danny Seraphine (Chicago)
61. Gene Holgan (Death)
62. John Densmore (The Doors)
63. Max Weinberg (Springsteen)
64. Jabo Starks (James Brown)
65. Lars Ulrich (Metallica)
66. Jerry Allison (Crickets)
67. Phil Ehart (Kansas)
68. Chester Thompson (Santana)
69. Matt McDonoughe (Mudvayne)
70. Dean Castronovo (Journey)
71. Jon Theodore (Mars Volta)
72. Van Romaine (Steve Morse)
73. Ralph Humphrey (Mothers Of Invention)
74. Les Lester (Los Straightjackets)
75. Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
76. Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
77. Dick Richards (The Comets)
78. Josh Freese (A Perfect Circle)
79. Stanton Moore (Galactic)
80. Joey Jordison (Slipknot)
81. Ron Wilson* (Surfaris)
82. Jack Irons (Pearl Jam)
83. Jim Gordon (Derek And The Dominoes)
84. Nick Mason (Pink Floyd)
85. Eddie Bayers (Session man)
86. Jeff Campitelli (Joe Satriani)
87. Dave Grohl (Nirvana)
88. Bobby Rondinelli (Rainbow)
89. Chris Frantz (Talking Heads)
90. Mike Bordin (Faith No More)
91. Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters)
92. Lee Kerslake (Uriah Heep)
93. Phil Selway (Radiohead)
94. Vinnie Appice (Black Sabbath, Dio)
95. Scott Rockenfield (Queensryche)
96. Chad Smith (Red Hot Chilli Peppers)
97. Nick Menza (Megadeth)
98. John Dalmayan (System Of A Down)
99. Travis Barker (Blink 182)
100. Ralph Salmins (Session man)

To quote the great Ed Vedder: "I don't know what this means."

Anon

You are all crazy

Seriously. This is THE best drummer ever.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4d6mj7PG9qA

12345AGNST1

Spinbrett wrote:

Matt can bring it for sure but the best is by far Danny Carey from TOOL. I know youre biased for Matt cause of PJ and all but if you listen and check out some stuff from the internet, you'll see that Danny is the best around. When Danny plays, you KNOW it.

Yes, we all think that matt cameron is the number one drummer on earth. Also, none of us know any work by tool, who is tool?

bigshasha

matt is second only to jack

IWillLiveForeve

12345AGNST1 wrote:

Yes, we all think that matt cameron is the number one drummer on earth. Also, none of us know any work by tool, who is tool?

I seriously hope this is a joke. If you don't know tool, I don't want to know you.

NewJPage

Pj_Gurl wrote:

You are all crazy

Seriously. This is THE best drummer ever.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4d6mj7PG9qA

you should have at least posted a video of keith when he was sober!!! isle of wight, young man blues would be one to check out...keith is the man. one of my favs.

but seriously, all you people need to get out more. (as stated by someone earlier in the thread) go listen to frank zappa...everyone...now!!!!!!! then tell me what drumming is...while i like cameron (although less than jack and dave a.), please allow yourselves to have your minds blown...not only by drumming, but by MUSIC. enjoy.

i like matt.c

Matt's got class. I love how he brings odd timing and a jazz influenced style to PJ.

smokeabud

hoopinman wrote:

but wait...how does Carey hold up to John Bonham???? Or Ginger Baker??? Or Buddy Rich??? Or Anyone who played with Frank Zappa(Terry Bozzio,Vinnie Colaiuta,Chester Thompson or Chad Wackerman)

OR HOW ABOUT KEITH MOON??????


its a relative answer...Danny Carey is good...but is he better?? Many could debate this for days....lets just say they are all good in their own ways.

WORD !

BinFrog

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OSD_Clm69LM

nowayimfaithfull

Stephen Flow wrote:

Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time imo.

love peart, but mike portnoy is more gifted.

yosi1

BinFrog wrote:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OSD_Clm69LM

While I love Neil Peart, and his studio work is obviously some of the best, I can't consider him the best. Its a known fact, and if you listen to this, and the studio version of YYZ you'll hear it, he does NO improvisation whatsoever. And for me, an important part of live music, and drumming, is the ability to improvise.

RedMosquito02

Buddy Rich has the quickest hands to have ever held a pair of sticks...

C'mon, Danny Carey? I mean he's AMAZING....to say he's the best is just plain ignorant.

I mean he's technical and solid, but seriously, go listen to some Zappa, then come back and comment...

Neil Pert, number 1 on that list, weird....so cliche

RedMosquito02

Didn't Danny take lessons from Pert as a child?

Anyone...???

BinFrog

yosi wrote:

While I love Neil Peart, and his studio work is obviously some of the best, I can't consider him the best. Its a known fact, and if you listen to this, and the studio version of YYZ you'll hear it, he does NO improvisation whatsoever. And for me, an important part of live music, and drumming, is the ability to improvise.

The point of YYZ is not to improvise. You don't 'get' Rush with a statement like that. I've seen him improv before, he can do it.

His solos are pieces of music, not a spur of the moment jam.

I don't consider him the best, but in the realm of rock he is damn near king.

Som jazz guys, obviously, are in a world of their own. Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, Lenny White, Steve Smith, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, etc.

nowayimfaithfull

from both sides of your argument mike portnoy is better.

appliedlesson

Stephen Flow wrote:

Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time imo.

what he said.

yosi1

BinFrog wrote:

The point of YYZ is not to improvise. You don't 'get' Rush with a statement like that. I've seen him improv before, he can do it.

His solos are pieces of music, not a spur of the moment jam.

I don't consider him the best, but in the realm of rock he is damn near king.

Som jazz guys, obviously, are in a world of their own. Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, Lenny White, Steve Smith, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, etc.

Please don't tell me whether or not I "get" Rush. And I wasn't commenting on YZZ in particular, I only quoted you because it was a good indication of what I was talking about. Not the solo, but the rest of the song is exactly the same as the studio version.

Also, I'm not taking anything away from his technical ability, he is a fucking beast. And I get what his solos are about.

But I think improvisation is important. And its known, that he doesn't improvise. To say you've seen him do it makes me think, maybe you don't "get" Rush.