FRONT ROW seats!!!

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    pghas wrote:
    Not true. MSG holds 18000 or so, so 10% of those tickets would be 1800, so yeah, 900 pairs is right. But there are 20 or so pairs in each row. So the odds of you getting to sit in the first 2 rows are 40/900 or roughly 1 in 22, which is not bad at all. If you then figure that of rows 3-8 the Ten Club gets roughly 60 of the 120 pairs in those 6 rows, then by the time they're in rows 9 and 10 they've already doled out 100 pairs of tickets. So then your odds of being seated in rows 9 or 10 would be 40/800 or 1 in 20. Not bad at all, really. Everyone has about an 8% chance of being in one of those great four rows.
    900 names put into a hat...

    the odds they pull yours first??? 900-1

    then they pull another name.....the odds your name is pulled??? 899-1

    an so on and so on.........
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  • pghas
    pghas Posts: 128
    And by the way, how did this thread turn into such a huge flame war? I thought the original person was just commenting on the fact that they were excited at the prospect of sitting close. Somehow people found that offensive?
  • SuzieM
    SuzieM Posts: 113
    Super_Fan wrote:
    Front Row Nissan Pavilion 2003 when 10 Club didn't know about the venue adding an additional 5 or 6 seats in each row in the orchestra section allowing me to get first row through the on sale. Front row for both Borgata's, Irving Plaza, all 3 San Francisco shows in 2006, London 2007 and Vic Theatre. Took advantage with seats for that only show and non seats in the USA and once in Europe.

    They have played at Irving Plaza? OMG, I'm just about ready to p**s my paints. That just makes me so happy. Irving Plaza is an awesome venue. Awesome band in awesome venue. Priceless.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    pghas wrote:
    Not true. MSG holds 18000 or so, so 10% of those tickets would be 1800, so yeah, 900 pairs is right. But there are 20 or so pairs in each row. So the odds of you getting to sit in the first 2 rows are 40/900 or roughly 1 in 22, which is not bad at all. If you then figure that of rows 3-8 the Ten Club gets roughly 60 of the 120 pairs in those 6 rows, then by the time they're in rows 9 and 10 they've already doled out 100 pairs of tickets. So then your odds of being seated in rows 9 or 10 would be 40/800 or 1 in 20. Not bad at all, really. Everyone has about an 8% chance of being in one of those great four rows.
    and a 92% chance of NOT being in those 4 rows.........
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  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    pghas wrote:
    And by the way, how did this thread turn into such a huge flame war? I thought the original person was just commenting on the fact that they were excited at the prospect of sitting close. Somehow people found that offensive?

    Because some asshat had to reply acting as if anyone who didn't join the fanclub the day they became a fan was an idiot. :)
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Ok, so let's first go with the assumption that the 20,000 listed attendance in 2003 will be the same this tour as then.

    So that gives us 20,000 seats and 1,000 fan club tix.

    Now from this chart:

    http://www.lynch68.com/entertainment/seating/msgseatingchartlarge.gif

    We have 44 seats in rows 1,2,9 and 10.

    So the odds for seats in row 1 would be: 2.2% or 22/1000
    The odds for row 2 would be: 2.25% or 22/978 (It would be slightly better because 22 pairs would already be gone for the first row.)

    Now seniority has rows 3-8. So that takes 132 pairs out of the equation for rows 9 and 10.

    So now your odds for row 9 would be 2.67% 22/824
    And your odds for row 10 would be 2.74% 22/802

    So basically your odds for any one of the particular rows would be slightly better than 1/50. And your odds of getting a seat in one of the four lottery rows is about 10%.

    Of course if ten club has more or less pairs, all this math was just wasted, but fun to do while drunk. ;)
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    Solat13 wrote:
    Ok, so let's first go with the assumption that the 20,000 listed attendance in 2003 will be the same this tour as then.

    So that gives us 20,000 seats and 1,000 fan club tix.

    Now from this chart:

    http://www.lynch68.com/entertainment/seating/msgseatingchartlarge.gif

    We have 44 seats in rows 1,2,9 and 10.

    So the odds for seats in row 1 would be: 2.2% or 22/1000
    The odds for row 2 would be: 2.24% or 22/978 (It would be slightly better because 22 pairs would already be gone for the first row.)

    Now seniority has rows 3-8. So that takes 132 pairs out of the equation for rows 9 and 10.

    So now your odds for row 9 would be 2.67% 22/824
    And your odds for row 10 would be 2.74% 22/802

    So basically your odds for any one of the particular rows would be slightly better than 1/50.
    ok....now wait a second...hehehehehe

    they take the same 1000 people.....and throw are names in a hat....

    they draw a name....the odds of them drawing my name are....1000-1....right????.....then they draw a second name......the odds they draw my name are now 999-1.....right???

    or is the fact that i havent taken a math course in over 20 years starting to show????? hehehehehe
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    ok....now wait a second...hehehehehe

    they take the same 1000 people.....and throw are names in a hat....

    they draw a name....the odds of them drawing my name are....1000-1....right????.....then they draw a second name......the odds they draw my name are now 999-1.....right???

    or is the fact that i havent taken a math course in over 20 years starting to show????? hehehehehe

    Yes, but the way you're doing it is for a particular seat. I was figuring it out by row.

    So for example for the pair that is front row center in front of Ed, the odds would be 1 in 1000. The odds for a pair in the front row would be 22/1000 or slightly better than 1 in 50.
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  • glb
    glb Posts: 356
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    ok....now wait a second...hehehehehe

    they take the same 1000 people.....and throw are names in a hat....

    they draw a name....the odds of them drawing my name are....1000-1....right????.....then they draw a second name......the odds they draw my name are now 999-1.....right???

    or is the fact that i havent taken a math course in over 20 years starting to show????? hehehehehe

    depends, are you coming to tampa with us or not? :D it's my 28th bday if you just need a little persuasion! haha At first, I was like fuck, nowhere near ATL, but then i was like....hmmm, leave for tampa thursday morning, watch PJ on my Bday, hang in Tampa for 2 more days. Seems like fun to me.
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  • indifferentman
    indifferentman Goshen, IN Posts: 731
    I'll take that 8% of hope and be damn happy to have it! Otherwise front row just ain't gonna happen for me unless I kill someone with an low 10C and assume their identity. *evil laugh* TOTALLY KIDDING!
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  • glb
    glb Posts: 356
    indifferentman wrote:
    I'll take that 8% of hope and be damn happy to have it! Otherwise front row just ain't gonna happen for me unless I kill someone with an low 10C and assume their identity. *evil laugh* TOTALLY KIDDING!

    I wish i could find my calculator.... so i could run some numbers. HAHA, that's right... I'm a geek from Georgia Tech that misses the days of actually running numbers and not sitting in front a goddammed computer every day plugging in numbers. Jesus, this is too dorky to post, but fuck it. I'm all talk and slacker anyways.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    indifferentman wrote:
    I'll take that 8% of hope and be damn happy to have it! Otherwise front row just ain't gonna happen for me unless I kill someone with an low 10C and assume their identity. *evil laugh* TOTALLY KIDDING!
    the odds of getting away with murder are 2-1.....

    just in case you wanted to know.....hehehe
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    glb wrote:
    I wish i could find my calculator.... so i could run some numbers. HAHA, that's right... I'm a geek from Georgia Tech that misses the days of actually running numbers and not sitting in front a goddammed computer every day plugging in numbers. Jesus, this is too dorky to post, but fuck it. I'm all talk and slacker anyways.

    Yeah, I'm a math geek as well. Was an engineer at UPenn before switching majors. So I can totally relate. ;)
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yes, but the way you're doing it is for a particular seat. I was figuring it out by row.

    So for example for the pair that is front row center in front of Ed, the odds would be 1 in 1000. The odds for a pair in the front row would be 22/1000 or slightly better than 1 in 50.
    ok so you are saying 22 pairs for each row????

    so 88 people will get pairs in those 4 rows....

    912 of us will get shut out....

    right????
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yeah, I'm a math geek as well. Was an engineer at UPenn before switching majors. So I can totally relate. ;)
    yeah ...

    well i have played the horses the last 30 years...

    and i know exactly why they call it a longshot!!!!

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha............................
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    ok so you are saying 22 pairs for each row????

    so 88 people will get pairs in those 4 rows....

    912 of us will get shut out....

    right????

    That is correct - mostly.

    132 pairs are only in play for the first 2 rows. But for rows 9 and 10 they would already have seats.

    But even with saying there are only "88" winners, that's almost 10%.
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  • glb
    glb Posts: 356
    Solat13 wrote:
    Ok, so let's first go with the assumption that the 20,000 listed attendance in 2003 will be the same this tour as then.

    So that gives us 20,000 seats and 1,000 fan club tix.

    Now from this chart:

    http://www.lynch68.com/entertainment/seating/msgseatingchartlarge.gif

    We have 44 seats in rows 1,2,9 and 10.

    So the odds for seats in row 1 would be: 2.2% or 22/1000
    The odds for row 2 would be: 2.25% or 22/978 (It would be slightly better because 22 pairs would already be gone for the first row.)



    Now seniority has rows 3-8. So that takes 132 pairs out of the equation for rows 9 and 10.

    So now your odds for row 9 would be 2.67% 22/824
    And your odds for row 10 would be 2.74% 22/802

    So basically your odds for any one of the particular rows would be slightly better than 1/50. And your odds of getting a seat in one of the four lottery rows is about 10%.

    Of course if ten club has more or less pairs, all this math was just wasted, but fun to do while drunk. ;)

    If there are 44 seats for each row 1-10, and they sold 1000 10 club tics, that means half of us will be sitting in rows 1-10... ;) the other half 10-20. not too bad.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    glb wrote:
    If there are 44 seats for each row 1-10, and they sold 1000 10 club tics, that means half of us will be sitting in rows 1-10... ;) the other half 10-20. not too bad.

    Close, but 1/4 would be rows 1-10, a quarter rows 11-20 and a quarter each on the right and left wing of the stage.

    But still not too bad.

    I think you were going by 1,000 tix instead of 1,000 pairs.
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  • glb
    glb Posts: 356
    Solat13 wrote:
    Close, but 1/4 would be rows 1-10, a quarter rows 11-20 and a quarter each on the right and left wing of the stage.

    But still not too bad.

    I think you were going by 1,000 tix instead of 1,000 pairs.

    yeah i sure did.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,843
    Solat13 wrote:
    That is correct - mostly.

    132 pairs are only in play for the first 2 rows. But for rows 9 and 10 they would already have seats.

    But even with saying there are only "88" winners, that's almost 10%.
    where the fuck did 132 come from???

    hehehehehehe..................

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