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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,516
    Maddow is moderate? WOW the far left has gone ga ga lately. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,338
    I specifically highlighted her as the outlier. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,338

    Far Left network does not a Rachel Maddow make.




  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,270

    Far Left network does not a Rachel Maddow make.




     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Rachel who?

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,069
    edited November 6

    Far Left network does not a Rachel Maddow make.




    To be fair, when I read that I had no idea if you were trying to say she is or is not far left. 
    Yoda failed you on this one. 
  • Tim Simmons
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,338
    to confirm, Rachel Maddow existing on MSNBC does not make MSNBC far left. Their day time lineup is basic cable news. Their evening programs are pretty centrist with attorney Ari Melber and Nicole Wallace (famously of the Bush White House) and Jen Psaki ( famously of the Biden WH). Former Bloomber exec Stephanie Ruhl doing the business side of government and Larry O'Donnell, such a classic democrat he interns for Moynahan and produced the West Wing, every liberals fantasy show). I guess Chris Hayes is pretty left, but I also think he's intellectually pretty fair. Morning Joe is as centrist as they get and thats their longest program. Kinda tells you all you need to know about the network.

     

     
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,223
    Rachel Maddow is not far left. If general you think so you might be a conservative.
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  • mickeyrat
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    A recent report from ProPublica is a harrowing demonstration of ICE overreach. It puts the lie to the declaration of the DHS spokesperson that “we don’t arrest U.S. citizens for immigration enforcement.” https://trib.al/2VAw4lQ

    The facts on the ground tell a very different tale.

    The report documents two categories of concern. As ProPublica notes, about 130 of the total number were arrested for allegedly assaulting officers. Many of these allegedly were overblown: At least 50 of those cases were tossed, or charges were never filed.

    It is the other category of detained Americans, at least 50, that presents a graver indictment of ICE. 

    Consider that nothing sets apart these relatively few American victims of ICE from the tens of thousands of people the agents scrutinize. Nor do the agents know their nationality when they confront them. 

    So what we’re seeing in the ProPublica report is very likely ICE’s general M.O. And a series of lawsuits on behalf of noncitizens alleges exactly that.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,270
    mickeyrat said:
    A recent report from ProPublica is a harrowing demonstration of ICE overreach. It puts the lie to the declaration of the DHS spokesperson that “we don’t arrest U.S. citizens for immigration enforcement.” https://trib.al/2VAw4lQ

    The facts on the ground tell a very different tale.

    The report documents two categories of concern. As ProPublica notes, about 130 of the total number were arrested for allegedly assaulting officers. Many of these allegedly were overblown: At least 50 of those cases were tossed, or charges were never filed.

    It is the other category of detained Americans, at least 50, that presents a graver indictment of ICE. 

    Consider that nothing sets apart these relatively few American victims of ICE from the tens of thousands of people the agents scrutinize. Nor do the agents know their nationality when they confront them. 

    So what we’re seeing in the ProPublica report is very likely ICE’s general M.O. And a series of lawsuits on behalf of noncitizens alleges exactly that.

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Because they “can” and “do”.

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  • Bentleyspop
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,963
    He dogged the question.  



  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,338
    He dogged the question.  



    First time with Brando?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,516
    to confirm, Rachel Maddow existing on MSNBC does not make MSNBC far left. Their day time lineup is basic cable news. Their evening programs are pretty centrist with attorney Ari Melber and Nicole Wallace (famously of the Bush White House) and Jen Psaki ( famously of the Biden WH). Former Bloomber exec Stephanie Ruhl doing the business side of government and Larry O'Donnell, such a classic democrat he interns for Moynahan and produced the West Wing, every liberals fantasy show). I guess Chris Hayes is pretty left, but I also think he's intellectually pretty fair. Morning Joe is as centrist as they get and thats their longest program. Kinda tells you all you need to know about the network.

     

     

    I watch Nicole almost every day and the near entirety of her show is “Trump is evil.” There is absolutely zero balance and perspective any more. Her show spends zero minutes challenging any extremism from the left, including the recent socialist wave. Her show and her network spent zero minutes covering our city’s history with President Ford and what influenced him to tell us to “drop dead.” During the last few weeks when this city’s politics was top news story.  Yes that’s a news trope.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,963
    He dogged the question.  



    First time with Brando?
    I do not follow Chitown politics so that is a yes.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,338
    to confirm, Rachel Maddow existing on MSNBC does not make MSNBC far left. Their day time lineup is basic cable news. Their evening programs are pretty centrist with attorney Ari Melber and Nicole Wallace (famously of the Bush White House) and Jen Psaki ( famously of the Biden WH). Former Bloomber exec Stephanie Ruhl doing the business side of government and Larry O'Donnell, such a classic democrat he interns for Moynahan and produced the West Wing, every liberals fantasy show). I guess Chris Hayes is pretty left, but I also think he's intellectually pretty fair. Morning Joe is as centrist as they get and thats their longest program. Kinda tells you all you need to know about the network.

     

     

     Her show spends zero minutes challenging any extremism from the left, including the recent socialist wave. 
    Because its either extreme fringe or not a real threat. Especially compared what actually being accomplished nationally from a ruling political party. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,338
    He dogged the question.  



    First time with Brando?
    I do not follow Chitown politics so that is a yes.
    He's a trip. And a not good mayor. He has had some Ws with some of the ICE stuff plaguing the city.

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,963
    He dogged the question.  



    First time with Brando?
    I do not follow Chitown politics so that is a yes.
    He's a trip. And a not good mayor. He has had some Ws with some of the ICE stuff plaguing the city.

    Well Bentley seems to think he gets it...