Canadian Politics Redux

HughFreakingDillon · November 4

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is called the canadian politics thread, not the "shit on the current government only" thread.

hatred. that's funny. we laugh at PP. We don't hate him. Cons need to face facts that they will never win federally again until he's gone.

ah, the old "you can't admit you've been suckered" game, when there's been nothing so far to feel suckered about. Sad face. Dude's been PM for 6 months.

I'm not particularly enamored with carney apologizing to trump for ford's ad. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth at everything he does. That shit's a distraction. Doesn't matter. I can figure out what matters and what doesn't. Some are too blinded by anger to do that.

Doesn't have an office set up. OOOOOHHHHH. Big deal. I wouldn't give a single shit if PP didn't either. There are temporary avenues, as the article I posted detailed.

You continue to project a lot of emotion onto my posts.

The constituency office is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. If we’re all believers in the Canadian model of representative democracy then there shouldn’t be any disagreement about the excessive delay from Carney. But a now-out-of-date article is posted, presumably justifying the delay (since you offered no commentary of your own I fall back on what I’ve observed).

By the way, I recall reading the article you posted when it was first published, in fact there’s a good chance I posted it at the time when I complained around the 100-day mark. If the RCMP had issued a statement backing up the claims of security concerns then I might feel differently, but they haven’t, and Carney’s office chose not to explain.

says the guy who tells us to wallow in our hatred. bwahahaha

HughFreakingDillon · November 4

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is called the canadian politics thread, not the "shit on the current government only" thread.

hatred. that's funny. we laugh at PP. We don't hate him. Cons need to face facts that they will never win federally again until he's gone.

ah, the old "you can't admit you've been suckered" game, when there's been nothing so far to feel suckered about. Sad face. Dude's been PM for 6 months.

I'm not particularly enamored with carney apologizing to trump for ford's ad. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth at everything he does. That shit's a distraction. Doesn't matter. I can figure out what matters and what doesn't. Some are too blinded by anger to do that.

Doesn't have an office set up. OOOOOHHHHH. Big deal. I wouldn't give a single shit if PP didn't either. There are temporary avenues, as the article I posted detailed.

You continue to project a lot of emotion onto my posts.

The constituency office is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. If we’re all believers in the Canadian model of representative democracy then there shouldn’t be any disagreement about the excessive delay from Carney. But a now-out-of-date article is posted, presumably justifying the delay (since you offered no commentary of your own I fall back on what I’ve observed).

By the way, I recall reading the article you posted when it was first published, in fact there’s a good chance I posted it at the time when I complained around the 100-day mark. If the RCMP had issued a statement backing up the claims of security concerns then I might feel differently, but they haven’t, and Carney’s office chose not to explain.

so him having an open office he'd never be at is your reason for contempt? seriously?

DarthMaeglin · November 4

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is called the canadian politics thread, not the "shit on the current government only" thread.

hatred. that's funny. we laugh at PP. We don't hate him. Cons need to face facts that they will never win federally again until he's gone.

ah, the old "you can't admit you've been suckered" game, when there's been nothing so far to feel suckered about. Sad face. Dude's been PM for 6 months.

I'm not particularly enamored with carney apologizing to trump for ford's ad. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth at everything he does. That shit's a distraction. Doesn't matter. I can figure out what matters and what doesn't. Some are too blinded by anger to do that.

Doesn't have an office set up. OOOOOHHHHH. Big deal. I wouldn't give a single shit if PP didn't either. There are temporary avenues, as the article I posted detailed.

You continue to project a lot of emotion onto my posts.

The constituency office is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. If we’re all believers in the Canadian model of representative democracy then there shouldn’t be any disagreement about the excessive delay from Carney. But a now-out-of-date article is posted, presumably justifying the delay (since you offered no commentary of your own I fall back on what I’ve observed).

By the way, I recall reading the article you posted when it was first published, in fact there’s a good chance I posted it at the time when I complained around the 100-day mark. If the RCMP had issued a statement backing up the claims of security concerns then I might feel differently, but they haven’t, and Carney’s office chose not to explain.

so him having an open office he'd never be at is your reason for contempt? seriously?

Picture if your local MP telling you to line up with the rest of the country to raise issues with them directly? I would expect local concerns to be blown off by the PMO, since that’s the role of the constituency office and staff.

DarthMaeglin · November 4

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is called the canadian politics thread, not the "shit on the current government only" thread.

hatred. that's funny. we laugh at PP. We don't hate him. Cons need to face facts that they will never win federally again until he's gone.

ah, the old "you can't admit you've been suckered" game, when there's been nothing so far to feel suckered about. Sad face. Dude's been PM for 6 months.

I'm not particularly enamored with carney apologizing to trump for ford's ad. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth at everything he does. That shit's a distraction. Doesn't matter. I can figure out what matters and what doesn't. Some are too blinded by anger to do that.

Doesn't have an office set up. OOOOOHHHHH. Big deal. I wouldn't give a single shit if PP didn't either. There are temporary avenues, as the article I posted detailed.

You continue to project a lot of emotion onto my posts.

The constituency office is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. If we’re all believers in the Canadian model of representative democracy then there shouldn’t be any disagreement about the excessive delay from Carney. But a now-out-of-date article is posted, presumably justifying the delay (since you offered no commentary of your own I fall back on what I’ve observed).

By the way, I recall reading the article you posted when it was first published, in fact there’s a good chance I posted it at the time when I complained around the 100-day mark. If the RCMP had issued a statement backing up the claims of security concerns then I might feel differently, but they haven’t, and Carney’s office chose not to explain.

so him having an open office he'd never be at is your reason for contempt? seriously?

Then let’s close all the constituency offices then? Go to Ottawa to see your local MP?

HughFreakingDillon · November 4

but that's not what's happening, is it? I'd like to think the PMO has more pressing things for you to be concerned about, no?

PJ_Soul · November 4

Lol, seriously. Our PM entered office during what is possibly the biggest economic and political crisis of the century so far, and the concern is about his constituency office? Smh.

ally12 · November 4

Zod said:

erebus said:

I thought Ford may run for Conservative leader also, but he has too many skeletons. I haven’t voted for him, but I don’t completely hate what he does. The opposition has been fairly weak lately.

on a federal note, I hope the Cons and Bloq do not support the budget and bring down the government.
I believe PP would lose again and be ousted from his party and the Liberals would pick up a majority.
will have to wait and see how PP totally shits on the budget but avoids an election.

I am surprised the conservative party doesn't hold a leadership review. I'm not sure PP can win an election. Too many Canadians don't like his style, and the only reason he was going to get a bunch of votes before the US election, was because people trying to oust Trudeau.

It seems weird to me that the Cons would stick with PP when many Canadians won't vote for him, rather then see if they can find another person?

I suppose they could wait a while to see if the same hatred builds up for Carney, but it may not, who knows, but you don't need PP to be leader for that. Maybe put someone else in charge for closely contested elections.

Conservatives are holding a leadership review in January. A leader that does not form government for their party has 2 options. A) Resign

leadership review.

NDP have the same bylaws, and Jagmeet chose option A.

DarthMaeglin · November 4

HughFreakingDillon said:

but that's not what's happening, is it? I'd like to think the PMO has more pressing things for you to be concerned about, no?

What does this mean? Again, you clearly have no sympathy for your fellow citizens whenever it suits you.

HughFreakingDillon · November 4

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but that's not what's happening, is it? I'd like to think the PMO has more pressing things for you to be concerned about, no?

What does this mean? Again, you clearly have no sympathy for your fellow citizens whenever it suits you.

well, I can't be a bleeding heart liberal and a non caring conservative all at once, so take your pick.

the only thing clear is you making wild personal assumptions about someone you don't know based on personal disagreements on a message board. well done. I am so incredibly far from what you assume, it's actually quite laughable how far off the mark you are.

PJ_Soul · November 4

Please stop while you're both ahead - don't get this thread locked again!

DarthMaeglin · November 4

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but that's not what's happening, is it? I'd like to think the PMO has more pressing things for you to be concerned about, no?

What does this mean? Again, you clearly have no sympathy for your fellow citizens whenever it suits you.

well, I can't be a bleeding heart liberal and a non caring conservative all at once, so take your pick.

the only thing clear is you making wild personal assumptions about someone you don't know based on personal disagreements on a message board. well done. I am so incredibly far from what you assume, it's actually quite laughable how far off the mark you are.

Makes two of us I suppose.

This constituency office business should be a simple non-partisan issue but clearly direct representation in Parliament is reserved for the Opposition parties and the backbenchers based on the responses so far.

Hugh, you didn’t answer my earlier hypothetical where your own local MP denies you access. So how would you feel in that scenario?

HughFreakingDillon · November 4

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but that's not what's happening, is it? I'd like to think the PMO has more pressing things for you to be concerned about, no?

What does this mean? Again, you clearly have no sympathy for your fellow citizens whenever it suits you.

well, I can't be a bleeding heart liberal and a non caring conservative all at once, so take your pick.

the only thing clear is you making wild personal assumptions about someone you don't know based on personal disagreements on a message board. well done. I am so incredibly far from what you assume, it's actually quite laughable how far off the mark you are.

Makes two of us I suppose.

This constituency office business should be a simple non-partisan issue but clearly direct representation in Parliament is reserved for the Opposition parties and the backbenchers based on the responses so far.

Hugh, you didn’t answer my earlier hypothetical where your own local MP denies you access. So how would you feel in that scenario?

it is a simple issue. and he says it's in development, and during that time, he offered a contingency. like I said before, he has bigger fish to fry. like "cockgobbling" trump, as you so classily put it.

HughFreakingDillon · November 4

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is called the canadian politics thread, not the "shit on the current government only" thread.

hatred. that's funny. we laugh at PP. We don't hate him. Cons need to face facts that they will never win federally again until he's gone.

ah, the old "you can't admit you've been suckered" game, when there's been nothing so far to feel suckered about. Sad face. Dude's been PM for 6 months.

I'm not particularly enamored with carney apologizing to trump for ford's ad. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth at everything he does. That shit's a distraction. Doesn't matter. I can figure out what matters and what doesn't. Some are too blinded by anger to do that.

Doesn't have an office set up. OOOOOHHHHH. Big deal. I wouldn't give a single shit if PP didn't either. There are temporary avenues, as the article I posted detailed.

You continue to project a lot of emotion onto my posts.

The constituency office is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. If we’re all believers in the Canadian model of representative democracy then there shouldn’t be any disagreement about the excessive delay from Carney. But a now-out-of-date article is posted, presumably justifying the delay (since you offered no commentary of your own I fall back on what I’ve observed).

By the way, I recall reading the article you posted when it was first published, in fact there’s a good chance I posted it at the time when I complained around the 100-day mark. If the RCMP had issued a statement backing up the claims of security concerns then I might feel differently, but they haven’t, and Carney’s office chose not to explain.

so him having an open office he'd never be at is your reason for contempt? seriously?

Picture if your local MP telling you to line up with the rest of the country to raise issues with them directly? I would expect local concerns to be blown off by the PMO, since that’s the role of the constituency office and staff.

my local MP isn't the PM of the country dealing with the orange moron down south, creating and repairing relationships across the globe, yeah, his local office being operational isn't my biggest concern.

DarthMaeglin · November 4

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is called the canadian politics thread, not the "shit on the current government only" thread.

hatred. that's funny. we laugh at PP. We don't hate him. Cons need to face facts that they will never win federally again until he's gone.

ah, the old "you can't admit you've been suckered" game, when there's been nothing so far to feel suckered about. Sad face. Dude's been PM for 6 months.

I'm not particularly enamored with carney apologizing to trump for ford's ad. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth at everything he does. That shit's a distraction. Doesn't matter. I can figure out what matters and what doesn't. Some are too blinded by anger to do that.

Doesn't have an office set up. OOOOOHHHHH. Big deal. I wouldn't give a single shit if PP didn't either. There are temporary avenues, as the article I posted detailed.

You continue to project a lot of emotion onto my posts.

The constituency office is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. If we’re all believers in the Canadian model of representative democracy then there shouldn’t be any disagreement about the excessive delay from Carney. But a now-out-of-date article is posted, presumably justifying the delay (since you offered no commentary of your own I fall back on what I’ve observed).

By the way, I recall reading the article you posted when it was first published, in fact there’s a good chance I posted it at the time when I complained around the 100-day mark. If the RCMP had issued a statement backing up the claims of security concerns then I might feel differently, but they haven’t, and Carney’s office chose not to explain.

so him having an open office he'd never be at is your reason for contempt? seriously?

Picture if your local MP telling you to line up with the rest of the country to raise issues with them directly? I would expect local concerns to be blown off by the PMO, since that’s the role of the constituency office and staff.

my local MP isn't the PM of the country dealing with the orange moron down south, creating and repairing relationships across the globe, yeah, his local office being operational isn't my biggest concern.

You know that’s not what I meant, so good night and good luck.

Original_Shifty · November 6

No constituency office = WORST PM EVER!!!!!!

Maybe Carney should gut the Library of Parliament and put in a ballroom?

Gern Blansten · November 6

Kat said:

DE4173 said:

I ❤️ Canada

I was born in Detroit and they are my neighbors. I Canada too.

Thanks, PJ_Soul.

I was also born in the D....William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak

My kids aren't impressed because we moved to Louisville when I was one.

static111 · November 6

Gern Blansten said:

Kat said:

DE4173 said:

I ❤️ Canada

I was born in Detroit and they are my neighbors. I Canada too.

Thanks, PJ_Soul.

I was also born in the D....William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak

My kids aren't impressed because we moved to Louisville when I was one.

Royal Oak is not Detroit. My mother was born in actual Detroit as were a number of my older family members. No one considers royal oak, ferndale grosse point etc the D!

DarthMaeglin · November 6

Original_Shifty said:

No constituency office = WORST PM EVER!!!!!!

Maybe Carney should gut the Library of Parliament and put in a ballroom?

Not even close to what I said, if you went back you’d find most of my comments were focused on his constituents having reasonable access to their local MP.

It’s this sort of bullshit (intentional?) misreading and misrepresentation of my comments that I won’t let make me angry anymore, I’m just going to call it out for the brief time I remain here.

And what could possibly go wrong electing a businessman with zero political experience to the highest office in the land? Oh wait…

erebus · November 7

I guess the opposite is also true? What would be the benefit of a career politician with no working experience?

the people chose

I believe Mr. Poilievre’s time is now limited with losing seats with the floor crossing and resignation. Will there be more?

Although I do not completely agree with floor crossing, it is the current rule. Maybe they should have to sit as an independent or face a byelection?

by the way, do you think Mr. Poilievre is interested in the day to day issues of the riding he was parachuted into? His constituents in Carleton felt neglected.

DarthMaeglin · November 7

erebus said:

I guess the opposite is also true? What would be the benefit of a career politician with no working experience?

the people chose

I believe Mr. Poilievre’s time is now limited with losing seats with the floor crossing and resignation. Will there be more?

Although I do not completely agree with floor crossing, it is the current rule. Maybe they should have to sit as an independent or face a byelection?

by the way, do you think Mr. Poilievre is interested in the day to day issues of the riding he was parachuted into? His constituents in Carleton felt neglected.

Poilievre opened a local constituency office within days of winning the byelection, ensuring the staff in the office can begin to address local concerns, bringing them to Poilievre’s attention when appropriate.

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