Canadian Politics Redux

DarthMaeglin

The jokes will practically write themselves…

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/steve-outhouse-is-in-as-next-conservative-campaign-manager

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

I am not a fan of Doug Ford either, and am legit worried about him becoming PM someday - I actually think he might have a good shot at it, which is disturbing. But I don't mind saying that I do kind of like how he deals with the Trump issue. 

To put it very mildly, I'm no fan of Trump.  But like chess, you have to understand your adversary. Based strictly on numbers... if Trump maintains his trade war with Canada, he wins. Who he hurts, etc. doesn't matter, especially to him. But by the numbers, he wins. So... we find ourselves at that disadvantage. If I'm Ford... or Carney.. and I don't like what Trump is doing...  you have to navigate delicately or you'll be undoubtedly burned. 

This goes way beyond Trump, ultimately. I expect the US to sink farther and farther into the abyss over time. It is not going to reign over the world's economy forever. I am excited that all of this, including Trump's temper tantrums against Canada, is finally forcing Canada to begin its shift away from the US economically. I know it will be painful, but Canada has to slowly start making that economic shift now rather than later, because ultimately, over many generations into the future, as the US continues its inevitable decline, Canada will be in a better position. That ad helped that in its own little way. 

I very respectfully disagree.  And that may be because I'm clinging onto hope that America smartens the fuck up. Not that it has a great history or track record to begin with but Trumpism is just insanity. 

A good relationship with America is the best path forward for Canada. For obvious logistical and military reasons, but also cultural. I understand why a lot of people don't want to hear that now... but looking ahead it makes sense. 

And what we're doing or planning on doing is also just odd.  We're 'diversifying' our trade relations sure, which is good. But our best dance partner seems to be China. Last I checked, they're not exactly a shining diamond compared to America. Amongst the long list of reasons that makes them shitty, they also recently tried to manipulate our elections etc.

Sad to say... but the world is getting fucked by a lot of assholes with money, power, and big weapons. 

Disclaimer: I understand the following comment is purely theoretical... however... 

Canada is unique in a few ways looking ahead to say 2050. We have oil, land, and critical minerals. We also two other things that I think will play a role in the future due to climate change. Fresh water and the arctic passage.  If... If things keep going the way they're going... rising temperatures, melting ice etc.... two things will happen up north:  1. Ecosystems will go bye-bye. (the common person cares, but governments and corporations do not.) 2. The northwest passage will become accessible for trade.  Canada becomes the new Panama. Speaking plainly, we either have now or will in the future have what other people want. I know the way Carney speaks now is very positive which is good. But... I just don't think we're powerful enough to make ourselves the great nation we could be. We don't have the people and we really, really, really don't have the military.

I hear, but i just don't have that hope that America will smarten the fuck up. I think it's slowly going down the drain, I want Canada to start getting ahead of it now. I appreciate that Trump's insanity is kickstarting it. America's probs aren't going away when Trump kicks the bucket. If anything, the Christian nationalists will get a tighter stranglehold, and there are few things I want less than Canada having a really strong economic relationship ship with that... Not that I don't also have all kinds of problems with the future of Canada's economic relationship with China. That is just my pessimistic opinion. 

we don't survive having no/little economic relationship with the US. full stop. while I do think the US is in decline, although not as quickly as you do, I also don't see another trump coming down the pike. once he's gone, there will still be broken craziness down there, but not what it is now, I don't think. 

Oh, I don't think it's going to happen quickly at all. I'm talking the long game. And I know Canada couldn't have no economic relationship. I said I don't want it to have a really strong one, like it does now. Finally, I also don't see another Trump coming down the pike. I see something just as bad or worse coming though. Not immediately, necessarily, but it's coming. 

obviously it's impossible to predict, I don't know, I just think trump is this once in a lifetime phenomenon that was able to tap into the hate and fear like very few are able to. I think/hope there will be enough pushback after this presidency (his approval rating is in the toilet) that it will almost settle things a bit. At least for a while. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

I am not a fan of Doug Ford either, and am legit worried about him becoming PM someday - I actually think he might have a good shot at it, which is disturbing. But I don't mind saying that I do kind of like how he deals with the Trump issue. 

To put it very mildly, I'm no fan of Trump.  But like chess, you have to understand your adversary. Based strictly on numbers... if Trump maintains his trade war with Canada, he wins. Who he hurts, etc. doesn't matter, especially to him. But by the numbers, he wins. So... we find ourselves at that disadvantage. If I'm Ford... or Carney.. and I don't like what Trump is doing...  you have to navigate delicately or you'll be undoubtedly burned. 

This goes way beyond Trump, ultimately. I expect the US to sink farther and farther into the abyss over time. It is not going to reign over the world's economy forever. I am excited that all of this, including Trump's temper tantrums against Canada, is finally forcing Canada to begin its shift away from the US economically. I know it will be painful, but Canada has to slowly start making that economic shift now rather than later, because ultimately, over many generations into the future, as the US continues its inevitable decline, Canada will be in a better position. That ad helped that in its own little way. 

I very respectfully disagree.  And that may be because I'm clinging onto hope that America smartens the fuck up. Not that it has a great history or track record to begin with but Trumpism is just insanity. 

A good relationship with America is the best path forward for Canada. For obvious logistical and military reasons, but also cultural. I understand why a lot of people don't want to hear that now... but looking ahead it makes sense. 

And what we're doing or planning on doing is also just odd.  We're 'diversifying' our trade relations sure, which is good. But our best dance partner seems to be China. Last I checked, they're not exactly a shining diamond compared to America. Amongst the long list of reasons that makes them shitty, they also recently tried to manipulate our elections etc.

Sad to say... but the world is getting fucked by a lot of assholes with money, power, and big weapons. 

Disclaimer: I understand the following comment is purely theoretical... however... 

Canada is unique in a few ways looking ahead to say 2050. We have oil, land, and critical minerals. We also two other things that I think will play a role in the future due to climate change. Fresh water and the arctic passage.  If... If things keep going the way they're going... rising temperatures, melting ice etc.... two things will happen up north:  1. Ecosystems will go bye-bye. (the common person cares, but governments and corporations do not.) 2. The northwest passage will become accessible for trade.  Canada becomes the new Panama. Speaking plainly, we either have now or will in the future have what other people want. I know the way Carney speaks now is very positive which is good. But... I just don't think we're powerful enough to make ourselves the great nation we could be. We don't have the people and we really, really, really don't have the military.

I hear, but i just don't have that hope that America will smarten the fuck up. I think it's slowly going down the drain, I want Canada to start getting ahead of it now. I appreciate that Trump's insanity is kickstarting it. America's probs aren't going away when Trump kicks the bucket. If anything, the Christian nationalists will get a tighter stranglehold, and there are few things I want less than Canada having a really strong economic relationship ship with that... Not that I don't also have all kinds of problems with the future of Canada's economic relationship with China. That is just my pessimistic opinion. 

we don't survive having no/little economic relationship with the US. full stop. while I do think the US is in decline, although not as quickly as you do, I also don't see another trump coming down the pike. once he's gone, there will still be broken craziness down there, but not what it is now, I don't think. 

Oh, I don't think it's going to happen quickly at all. I'm talking the long game. And I know Canada couldn't have no economic relationship. I said I don't want it to have a really strong one, like it does now. Finally, I also don't see another Trump coming down the pike. I see something just as bad or worse coming though. Not immediately, necessarily, but it's coming. 

obviously it's impossible to predict, I don't know, I just think trump is this once in a lifetime phenomenon that was able to tap into the hate and fear like very few are able to. I think/hope there will be enough pushback after this presidency (his approval rating is in the toilet) that it will almost settle things a bit. At least for a while. 

Trump is a symptom, not the illness. 

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

I am not a fan of Doug Ford either, and am legit worried about him becoming PM someday - I actually think he might have a good shot at it, which is disturbing. But I don't mind saying that I do kind of like how he deals with the Trump issue. 

To put it very mildly, I'm no fan of Trump.  But like chess, you have to understand your adversary. Based strictly on numbers... if Trump maintains his trade war with Canada, he wins. Who he hurts, etc. doesn't matter, especially to him. But by the numbers, he wins. So... we find ourselves at that disadvantage. If I'm Ford... or Carney.. and I don't like what Trump is doing...  you have to navigate delicately or you'll be undoubtedly burned. 

This goes way beyond Trump, ultimately. I expect the US to sink farther and farther into the abyss over time. It is not going to reign over the world's economy forever. I am excited that all of this, including Trump's temper tantrums against Canada, is finally forcing Canada to begin its shift away from the US economically. I know it will be painful, but Canada has to slowly start making that economic shift now rather than later, because ultimately, over many generations into the future, as the US continues its inevitable decline, Canada will be in a better position. That ad helped that in its own little way. 

I very respectfully disagree.  And that may be because I'm clinging onto hope that America smartens the fuck up. Not that it has a great history or track record to begin with but Trumpism is just insanity. 

A good relationship with America is the best path forward for Canada. For obvious logistical and military reasons, but also cultural. I understand why a lot of people don't want to hear that now... but looking ahead it makes sense. 

And what we're doing or planning on doing is also just odd.  We're 'diversifying' our trade relations sure, which is good. But our best dance partner seems to be China. Last I checked, they're not exactly a shining diamond compared to America. Amongst the long list of reasons that makes them shitty, they also recently tried to manipulate our elections etc.

Sad to say... but the world is getting fucked by a lot of assholes with money, power, and big weapons. 

Disclaimer: I understand the following comment is purely theoretical... however... 

Canada is unique in a few ways looking ahead to say 2050. We have oil, land, and critical minerals. We also two other things that I think will play a role in the future due to climate change. Fresh water and the arctic passage.  If... If things keep going the way they're going... rising temperatures, melting ice etc.... two things will happen up north:  1. Ecosystems will go bye-bye. (the common person cares, but governments and corporations do not.) 2. The northwest passage will become accessible for trade.  Canada becomes the new Panama. Speaking plainly, we either have now or will in the future have what other people want. I know the way Carney speaks now is very positive which is good. But... I just don't think we're powerful enough to make ourselves the great nation we could be. We don't have the people and we really, really, really don't have the military.

I hear, but i just don't have that hope that America will smarten the fuck up. I think it's slowly going down the drain, I want Canada to start getting ahead of it now. I appreciate that Trump's insanity is kickstarting it. America's probs aren't going away when Trump kicks the bucket. If anything, the Christian nationalists will get a tighter stranglehold, and there are few things I want less than Canada having a really strong economic relationship ship with that... Not that I don't also have all kinds of problems with the future of Canada's economic relationship with China. That is just my pessimistic opinion. 

we don't survive having no/little economic relationship with the US. full stop. while I do think the US is in decline, although not as quickly as you do, I also don't see another trump coming down the pike. once he's gone, there will still be broken craziness down there, but not what it is now, I don't think. 

Oh, I don't think it's going to happen quickly at all. I'm talking the long game. And I know Canada couldn't have no economic relationship. I said I don't want it to have a really strong one, like it does now. Finally, I also don't see another Trump coming down the pike. I see something just as bad or worse coming though. Not immediately, necessarily, but it's coming. 

obviously it's impossible to predict, I don't know, I just think trump is this once in a lifetime phenomenon that was able to tap into the hate and fear like very few are able to. I think/hope there will be enough pushback after this presidency (his approval rating is in the toilet) that it will almost settle things a bit. At least for a while. 

This is what I believe also...he's a once in a lifetime figure. I've said it here before, he's the greatest fucking actor in history. He's an absolute narcissist with few morals, a sexist piece of human garbage. 

He has been able to keep enough of that deplorable base together to push his agenda but it obviously doesn't work and isn't popular. We will survive him but it's going to be fucking expensive as hell to clean up his mess.

DarthMaeglin

Maybe we should follow our Prime Minister’s lead when it comes to the U.S. President: “Who cares?”

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

PJ_Soul said:

I am not a fan of Doug Ford either, and am legit worried about him becoming PM someday - I actually think he might have a good shot at it, which is disturbing. But I don't mind saying that I do kind of like how he deals with the Trump issue. 

To put it very mildly, I'm no fan of Trump.  But like chess, you have to understand your adversary. Based strictly on numbers... if Trump maintains his trade war with Canada, he wins. Who he hurts, etc. doesn't matter, especially to him. But by the numbers, he wins. So... we find ourselves at that disadvantage. If I'm Ford... or Carney.. and I don't like what Trump is doing...  you have to navigate delicately or you'll be undoubtedly burned. 

This goes way beyond Trump, ultimately. I expect the US to sink farther and farther into the abyss over time. It is not going to reign over the world's economy forever. I am excited that all of this, including Trump's temper tantrums against Canada, is finally forcing Canada to begin its shift away from the US economically. I know it will be painful, but Canada has to slowly start making that economic shift now rather than later, because ultimately, over many generations into the future, as the US continues its inevitable decline, Canada will be in a better position. That ad helped that in its own little way. 

I very respectfully disagree.  And that may be because I'm clinging onto hope that America smartens the fuck up. Not that it has a great history or track record to begin with but Trumpism is just insanity. 

A good relationship with America is the best path forward for Canada. For obvious logistical and military reasons, but also cultural. I understand why a lot of people don't want to hear that now... but looking ahead it makes sense. 

And what we're doing or planning on doing is also just odd.  We're 'diversifying' our trade relations sure, which is good. But our best dance partner seems to be China. Last I checked, they're not exactly a shining diamond compared to America. Amongst the long list of reasons that makes them shitty, they also recently tried to manipulate our elections etc.

Sad to say... but the world is getting fucked by a lot of assholes with money, power, and big weapons. 

Disclaimer: I understand the following comment is purely theoretical... however... 

Canada is unique in a few ways looking ahead to say 2050. We have oil, land, and critical minerals. We also two other things that I think will play a role in the future due to climate change. Fresh water and the arctic passage.  If... If things keep going the way they're going... rising temperatures, melting ice etc.... two things will happen up north:  1. Ecosystems will go bye-bye. (the common person cares, but governments and corporations do not.) 2. The northwest passage will become accessible for trade.  Canada becomes the new Panama. Speaking plainly, we either have now or will in the future have what other people want. I know the way Carney speaks now is very positive which is good. But... I just don't think we're powerful enough to make ourselves the great nation we could be. We don't have the people and we really, really, really don't have the military.

I hear, but i just don't have that hope that America will smarten the fuck up. I think it's slowly going down the drain, I want Canada to start getting ahead of it now. I appreciate that Trump's insanity is kickstarting it. America's probs aren't going away when Trump kicks the bucket. If anything, the Christian nationalists will get a tighter stranglehold, and there are few things I want less than Canada having a really strong economic relationship ship with that... Not that I don't also have all kinds of problems with the future of Canada's economic relationship with China. That is just my pessimistic opinion. 

we don't survive having no/little economic relationship with the US. full stop. while I do think the US is in decline, although not as quickly as you do, I also don't see another trump coming down the pike. once he's gone, there will still be broken craziness down there, but not what it is now, I don't think. 

Oh, I don't think it's going to happen quickly at all. I'm talking the long game. And I know Canada couldn't have no economic relationship. I said I don't want it to have a really strong one, like it does now. Finally, I also don't see another Trump coming down the pike. I see something just as bad or worse coming though. Not immediately, necessarily, but it's coming. 

obviously it's impossible to predict, I don't know, I just think trump is this once in a lifetime phenomenon that was able to tap into the hate and fear like very few are able to. I think/hope there will be enough pushback after this presidency (his approval rating is in the toilet) that it will almost settle things a bit. At least for a while. 

Trump is a symptom, not the illness. 

I’m aware of that, but I don’t think the disease flares up like this without him. There aren’t many people who can galvanize such a massive group like he did.  

Zod

I wonder about that too.  Sometimes it feels like some people in the US that wanted to get things used Trump to do it, because he had the ability to unite the right.   Not everyone has that ability.

If he indeed doesn't pull a rabbit out of a head to get a 3rd term, they might not be able to find someone who has the same ability to unify like that.

On the flip side if they did, and that person was more capable that Trump.  That's not great

PJ_Soul

I don't think Trump is even going to make it to the end of his current term, let alone try for a third. I suspect they'll literally have to hide him away and make up daily lies as to why we don't hear or see him anymore at some point. Or he'll have a major medical complication that incapacitates him, but that's the last thing any of them want. I think they will do a LOT to keep Vance out of the Oval Office. 

There are a whole lot of sinister people in the GOP who have big plans for post-Trump, and they are very well organized and very well funded. 

HughFreakingDillon

dude can't even stay awake for his own bullshit pomp and circumstance in the gold-val office. you're right, he's not going to be able to try for a third. 

DarthMaeglin

In a conversation about this it was suggested that the soldiers might not have been shot if Trump hadn’t deployed them. Ridiculous and irrelevant in my opinion.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/warmington-relations-at-a-point-where-canada-hasnt-acknowledged-u-s-terror-attack

erebus

Another Conservative crossed the floor. Mr. Poilievre’s days are numbered.

Parksy

erebus said:

Another Conservative crossed the floor. Mr. Poilievre’s days are numbered.

Very fascinating to me... I'm curious if one more crosses to give the Liberals the majority. 

I have many questions about the whole ordeal and some concerns. 

Said it once, twice, thrice, maybe a hundred times... I think the Conservatives really can win an election in Canada... that window is slowly closing. When you can't win against Trudeau... that should have been the signal for a seismic culture change within the party.  What I've been seeing is them double down on bad practices and rhetoric and not changing. Here's your sign. 

PJ_Soul

I juat think that people see Carney as a reasonable, capable person who has actual knowledge about what needs to be done just now, at least in relative terms... nobody is used to seeing this in a national leader, LOL. Like, funny (sad), but true. Just a few Cons have the nerve to acknowledge it maybe?? I dunno... I've been fucking sick AF for weeks now. Maybe I don't know wtf is even going on. 

Parksy

Society has turned me into a very skeptical person lol ... from a purely strategic point of view... I see things that Carney is at least saying and trying to put into action as a compromise. He's potentially alienating far left environmentalists to appease those in the energy sector. That' just one example. But it's an example that the Conservatives should pay attention to. In my opinion, they should do the same. Risk alienating the far right to appease those in the middle. (myself included) 

HughFreakingDillon

I don’t know how I feel about MP’s crossing the floor. I mean, people vote for many reasons; one of those is party. I don’t think you should be allowed to switch parties after an election. You should have to declare that during an election, or, if you choose to do so post-, it should trigger an automatic bi election. 

HughFreakingDillon

Parksy said:

Society has turned me into a very skeptical person lol ... from a purely strategic point of view... I see things that Carney is at least saying and trying to put into action as a compromise. He's potentially alienating far left environmentalists to appease those in the energy sector. That' just one example. But it's an example that the Conservatives should pay attention to. In my opinion, they should do the same. Risk alienating the far right to appease those in the middle. (myself included) 

It’s funny. I like Carney, and like pjsoul, feel like he’s reasonable and understands what needs to be done to secure the autonomy of Canada in the post-maga America. 

But I started following this account on instagram that essentially feels like Carney is the devil when it comes to:
1. Indigenous rights
2. the environment 
3. and yes, Canada’s autonomy

Parksy

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don’t know how I feel about MP’s crossing the floor. I mean, people vote for many reasons; one of those is party. I don’t think you should be allowed to switch parties after an election. You should have to declare that during an election, or, if you choose to do so post-, it should trigger an automatic bi election. 

My thoughts exactly. I'm a bit surprised more people aren't ticked off about it. I haven't checked the voting results of the districts of the MPs that have crossed, but I imagine they were close margins. 

HughFreakingDillon

From someone named Mugsy Margarit on facebook:

I've had a lot of requests for my take on the US's new National Security Strategy. Admittedly, I've been putting it off. My feed was immediately inundated with horrible rage bait takes about it. No analysis, no nuance, just knee jerk engagement farming. 

So, I gave it some time to soak in. I owe it to my readers to give a sober and open-eyed view, not a half-baked reaction for likes. I've been gathering my thoughts since the announcement, and here is my best shot at as realistic take I can provide. 

Here goes.

The United States’ new National Security Strategy is not subtle, at all. It doesn't pretend to be aspirational. It does not wrap itself in liberal internationalism, optimism, or the usual vague commitment to a “rules-based order.” It's blunt, inward-looking, and transactional. But realistically, this is how the US has already been acting. It's just official now.

From a Canadian perspective, that blunt honesty is both useful and alarming.

The strategy makes something abundantly clear. The United States is reorganizing its priorities around power, proximity, and payoff. Its domination of the Western Hemisphere comes first. Migration is framed as a security threat. Economic relationships are valued for leverage, not harmony. Alliances are tools, not commitments.

They've stopped pretending to be the good guys, in both practice and doctrine. The US is now more a corporation than a nation. 

Unfortunately, Canada sits smack dab in the middle of this framework. We're not a neutral observer, we're part of the strategic terrain. We've been relegated to a chess piece in a new global game based on spheres of influence and real politik. 

If we are going to survive this in one piece, we need to realize it. Right now. Despite the narrative of the clickbait crew, the US isn't about to march its troops across the border. It doesn't have to.

The U.S. is refocusing on the Western Hemisphere in a way that feels uncomfortably like a modernized Monroe Doctrine. The message unmistakable; instability, migration, and economic imbalance anywhere in the Americas are now treated as U.S. national-security concerns to be dealt with harshly. Canada is no longer an ally, but a frontier of this new perimeter.

Make no mistake, my fellow Canadians, we are in for a rough ride. If we don't figure out a way to overcome our internal disorder, now, we will be overrun. The US's new perspective will inevitably bleed north. Canadian immigration and asylum policies will increasingly be viewed by Washington through a security lens.

We will now be faced by a new US outlook of 'if you're not with us, you're against us". A problem to be dealt with. We have already seen what that looks like in practice with tariffs, sudden disputes, and leverage applied without apology. The era of assuming the U.S. will prioritize stability in the Canada-U.S. relationship for its own sake is over.

It. Is. Over.

We've been stabbed in the back. We need to get over it. 

If Albertans want to go their own way, thinking that their fate will be different, good luck. You'll be pulverized into submission by the US, something the rest of Canadians sure as hell don't want to see.

Border cooperation is about to become more coercive. Washington will expect Canada to act as a buffer. Not just against irregular migration, but against economic and security risks defined in Washington, -not- Ottawa.

Canada’s economic dependence is now a strategic and existential vulnerability. When trade becomes a security tool, leverage flows one way. The U.S. knows this already, and the strategy reflects that awareness. We need to accept this as the new reality and act accordingly.

To the US, alliances matter less than outcomes now. The strategy signals a willingness to bypass institutions when they are inconvenient. For a country like Canada, whose identity depends heavily on rules, norms, and predictability, that is a structural disadvantage. 

Canada’s biggest problem is not hostility from the United States. It's not invasion. 

It is assumption. It is our inherent culture of helping each other. We have built decades of policy on the belief that shared values will lead to shared outcomes. That everyone will act for the greater good.

They do not.

A U.S. that views the hemisphere as a security zone will expect compliance, not consultation. A U.S. that treats trade as leverage will use it. They will expect submission, not partnership. 

What keeps me up at night is that Canada is not prepared for this new reality. Not politically, not economically, and not militarily. A sizeable amount of the population is now more concerned with Brookefield conspiracy theories and maintaining the personality they built around hating Trudeau that uninvited them from Christmas dinner. 

You're being used as a tool. If you still can't stop talking about Trudeau, you need to talk to a professional. We're worried about you.

Well, Mugsy, how do we navigate this then?

First, we need strategic clarity. That means realizing that U.S. and Canadian interests will diverge more often, not less. Planning based on nostalgia is not a strategy.

Second, Canada must invest in real autonomy focused on defence, Arctic security, cyber capacity, and supply-chain resilience. Not to oppose the U.S., but to avoid being cornered by it.

Third, trade diversification can no longer be rhetorical. Overreliance on one market is no longer just an economic risk, it's a national-security liability.

Fourth, Canada must stop assuming goodwill substitutes for leverage. Diplomacy still matters, but credibility requires capacity. Ottawa needs to show it can say “no” and mean it. We need to stop just saying things, we need to stand our ground after we say them.

Finally, Canada should lean hard into multilateral leadership. When power politics intensify, smaller states survive by shaping norms collectively or being shaped by others. Right now, we're on the losing side of that.

This was a long one. So, what's the TLDR version? Sorry for my straight forwardness right now, but it is what it is. 

The rules have changed. We don't get a grace period. We need to sober up.

Why?

The US government (not Americans, I have to stress that) doesn't give a shit about us. It doesn't give a shit about the well being of our nation, or Canadians. It doesn't give a shit what we think about what it's doing. It doesn't give a shit about our shared history. It doesn't give a shit about all the times we were there for them. 

It's something we've all been avoiding saying out loud, because once we do, it's real. 

And it hurts. 

But I believe in us, as a country, and a people. We've shown time and time again that when the chips are down, and the darkness is spreading, we're up to the challenge. 

Hard times are ahead, and we need to face them together. 

Not just for ourselves, not just for each other, but for our children.

Thanks for reading.

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PJ_Soul

Mugsy Margarit seems a little behind the times or spent quite some time in denial, no? I'm under the impression that most Canadians and its government already knew all that months ago. 

erebus

Anyone watch the interview with Mr. Poilievre on Sunday morning with Rosemarie Barton?

Could not answer a question with a straight answer.  He comes across as very arrogant.  The liberals must love having him as the leader of the opposition as in my opinion he will never be prime Minister. 

And yes, the liberals have faults of their own,  but at least you feel you could have a conversation or rational debate with them.

Carney has essentially usurped the conservatives. Why vote for PP when you have a conservative platform without having to be led by a petulant child.