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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    It's another distraction.

    I do get the TDS statement now.  That whole camp mentions something and people lose their minds. 

    He is literally trolling every single day.  It's like a schoolground.
    This in and of itself shows how terrible they are. No, not the ankle-biting dems but the GOP.

    First, the camp, regardless of "why," talking about circumventing the Constitution should be viewed as scary. And trolling? Our president trolls us and the opposition is the bullying bad guys?

    Maybe, and hear me out, the president should not be trolling us, should not whine about everyone that doesn't think he walks on water, should be the president of the entire country, and should act like he cares at least a little bit about the country he's supposed to be serving. Trolling is for twitter, not the highest office in the land.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    Again, its such a weird time to be living in where leaders, who are purportedly serious mature adults, absolutely revel in antagonizing a subset of people. 
    very weird....for trump to constantly be referring to "democrat programs" etc., just fucking out of bounds in every aspect

    especially when probably half of the people benefitting from those programs voted for him
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    Again, its such a weird time to be living in where leaders, who are purportedly serious mature adults, absolutely revel in antagonizing a subset of people. 
    the maga way.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Again, its such a weird time to be living in where leaders, who are purportedly serious mature adults, absolutely revel in antagonizing a subset of people. 
    the maga way.
    If we are being honest, there is a small subset of those people they are constantly antagonizing that deserve all they get.  They are out of their minds.


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  • mickeyrat
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    BREAKING: Retired Major General Randy Manner goes MEGA-VIRAL with a scathing takedown of Donald Trump's deployments of the National Guard to U.S. cities — calling them "a waste of taxpayer money" without "legal justification" that make our troops less combat ready.

    This man comes from a long lineage of soldiers and he's horrified by what he sees...

    "I served for more than 35 years in the US Army and the National Guard. Four generations of my family have served in combat or during times of war," Manner wrote in a newsletter published by Home of the Brave. "My grandfather served in the Navy in World War II, my father served in Vietnam, I served in the Middle East, and my son served in the Air Force doing search and rescue in Afghanistan. I entered military service as a young Airborne Ranger platoon leader in the 82nd Airborne Division. I served in the regular Army, then as a citizen-soldier in the National Guard, and then was recalled to active duty after September 11 for the next 11 years."

    "It was an honor serving as the Deputy Commanding General of the United States Third Army, responsible for helping to safeguard the lives of tens of thousands of American sons and daughters in combat, and finally as the number two leader in the National Guard Bureau in the Pentagon, responsible for training, equipping, and manning units comprising over 450,000 National Guardsmen," he continued.

    "Every bit of that experience tells me that the deployments we’re currently seeing inside American cities—including Los Angeles, Washington DC, Memphis, Portland, and Chicago—are not only un-American and wrong, they’re being done at the expense of our young men and women in uniform, their families, and their civilian employers," wrote Manner.

    The retired general's words mirror those of countless other military professionals who see Trump's deployments for what they are: a naked authoritarian power grab. This president is trying to normalize the sight of armed soldiers and tanks on our streets to pave the way for the the MAGA dictatorship that he fantasizes about.

    "As the Acting Vice Chief of the National Guard Bureau, I was responsible for reviewing all requests for the use of the National Guard, whether in a federal status supporting overseas deployments defending our nation, or supporting a governor during times of natural disasters—such as hurricanes, flooding, forest fires, or earthquakes—to help save American lives. During that time, if a request from a governor had ever come to me asking for a deployment like the ones we’re seeing in our cities, it would have been flatly rejected as a misuse of National Guard resources," Manner wrote.

    "It is important to note that such requests were never even submitted for consideration, as they were known by all to be absurd," he continued. "Other than the administration stating such deployments today are needed, there is absolutely no legal or mission justification for it. These deployments are a waste of taxpayer money and reduce the combat readiness of our Guard. These soldiers are trained for combat operations—not to spread mulch and entertain tourists, as they’ve been seen doing in DC."

    "In contrast to the regular US Army, where soldiers train and are housed full-time on a military base, National Guard members are citizen-soldiers, which means they typically have a full-time or part-time job, or they’re attending college," Manner went on. "Citizen-soldiers train for their military mission one weekend a month and for two weeks for annual training."

    "The Guard has two missions: The first mission is to be America’s strategic reserve, prepared to defend the country from overseas threats," he explained. "We regularly send Guard units overseas to both relieve active duty units as well as to deploy to have a footprint with other partner nations around the world."

    "The secondary mission is to be available during peacetime for governors to use predominantly in times of natural disaster," he continued. "Guard members are there for governors to augment the resources in his or her state, and they take great pride in being the first ones there when their fellow citizens need them. Whenever a natural disaster strikes, devastating a local community, one can find Guardsmen on the ground, doing everything in their power to help."

    "Our military is not trained in law enforcement. There are absolutely zero situations where our National Guard should be on the streets of America as a status quo measure, absent some acute short-term crisis," wrote Manner. "We would never send our sheriff’s deputies to Afghanistan for a special operation; it’s just as illogical to send highly trained combat soldiers and put them into civilian law enforcement roles."

    "As DC police officer and Virginia National Guard veteran Daniel Hodges recently wrote: 'Soldiers are trained to fight and win wars. Military Police notwithstanding, soldiers are not trained for law enforcement roles. They are not trained to conduct traffic stops, they are not trained in deescalation, crisis intervention, and DC code. They do not have the legal authority to conduct routine stops or make arrests. Aside from very narrow roles such as blocking and directing traffic or riot control, National Guard members are not trained, equipped, or authorized to be of any great help in combating crime.'"

    "Usually, when the Guard is called up, it’s all hands on deck. Employers and families understand and are extremely supportive," the general continued. "When a soldier or airman deploys outside the US as part of the strategic reserve, the overwhelming majority are notified at least a year in advance, giving them crucial time to plan with their family and workplace."

    "Deploying the Guard to American cities, however, leaves no time to plan. Instead, family members are being yanked away for a mission that’s not urgent or popular in the homeland they’re sworn to defend," Manner continued. "Parents have inadequate time to arrange childcare. Employers lose critical staff with little information on when they’ll be back from a mission many don’t support. Meanwhile, no one’s getting a paycheck or going to college in the Guardsmen’s shoes while they put their life on hold."

    "We need to avoid sliding back in time to the 1960s, when there was a great divide between the military and the American people. When my father returned home from Vietnam, he was prohibited from wearing his uniform on the way to and from work because of the insults he and other military faced. The 'baby-killer' epithet was a common refrain hurled at returning veterans by those who had never served."

    "After terrorists killed thousands of Americans on September 11, the Guard was put in airports around the US to provide a sense of security for several months. That use of the National Guard helped restore public faith, because we were under attack as a nation by a hostile foreign entity," Manner wrote. "Thousands of Americans died instantly in those attacks. The military was viewed as a trusted institution in our country because people knew we would stand up for what was right, and that we could be counted on to defend our country. That remains true today, but the Guard is at risk of being dangerously politicized by the recent deployments we’ve seen."

    "It is absolutely wrong to have the military in our cities. We do not want to go back to the way that it once was, with a great divide separating civilians and coloring their perceptions of our men and women in uniform," he continued. "We want to maintain the trust that has been built up for decades between our military and the people they are sworn to protect. These are our sons and daughters, and they have not changed one bit—they are still every bit as proud, patriotic, and ready to discharge their duties with integrity and efficiency. What’s changed is the signals coming from civilian leadership."

    "Deploying our military to watch over and intimidate our citizens is wrong and presents a clear and present danger to the First Amendment rights and freedoms we cherish. It must stop," Manner concluded.

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,399
    OnWis97 said:
    It's another distraction.

    I do get the TDS statement now.  That whole camp mentions something and people lose their minds. 

    He is literally trolling every single day.  It's like a schoolground.
    This in and of itself shows how terrible they are. No, not the ankle-biting dems but the GOP.

    First, the camp, regardless of "why," talking about circumventing the Constitution should be viewed as scary. And trolling? Our president trolls us and the opposition is the bullying bad guys?

    Maybe, and hear me out, the president should not be trolling us, should not whine about everyone that doesn't think he walks on water, should be the president of the entire country, and should act like he cares at least a little bit about the country he's supposed to be serving. Trolling is for twitter, not the highest office in the land.

    As long as we’re fantasizing….


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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    Again, its such a weird time to be living in where leaders, who are purportedly serious mature adults, absolutely revel in antagonizing a subset of people. 
    the maga way.
    If we are being honest, there is a small subset of those people they are constantly antagonizing that deserve all they get.  They are out of their minds.


    that does not make bullying them ok. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,641
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142

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    Does anyone really believe that this administration ends well? That everything will go back to “normal” whenever CCOOTWH is out of the picture? Whether it’s 3 months, another year or two, or at the end of his term?

    Did you see Xi’s reaction when the clown was shaking his hand when they met? Have you not realized the damage that is occurring, both domestically and abroad? And not realizing the inability of a large enough percentage of the voters can’t be reasoned with? I’ll call it Evangelical hypocrisy, which is totally fine in their eyes because Jesus. If you’re, general you, aren’t connecting the dots and understanding this, I don’t know what else to tell you other than good luck. “This” will not end well.

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    If the GOP wins it will be ok....lots of fucked up pardons going to go down though

    If the Dems win it will be rough but since trump won't be on the ticket he will probably not be as stupid as 2020
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Paying attention yet? You think this shithead is going quietly? People better wake the fuck up. Remember, 3.5% boys and girls and what that represents of 340.1M ‘Murikkkans. From Letter From An American:

    Meanwhile, on Tuesday, in a rambling and disjointed speech in Japan, Trump told U.S. military personnel that he is federalizing National Guard troops and sending them into Democratic-led cities “because we’re going to have safe cities.” In the same speech, Trump repeatedly attacked former president Joe Biden and insisted yet again that the 2020 presidential election was rigged. (It was not.)

    When asked by a reporter later to clarify his remarks, Trump referred back to the Insurrection Act, saying that if he invoked it, “I’d be allowed to do whatever I want. But we haven’t chosen to do that because we’re…doing very well without it. But I’d be allowed to do that, you understand that. And the courts wouldn’t get involved. Nobody would get involved. And I could send the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines. I can send anybody I wanted.”  

    In fact, a president can invoke the accurately named Insurrection Act only in times of insurrection or rebellion. Neither of those conditions exists. 

    But the administration is working hard to create the impression that they do. Drew Harwell and Joyce Sohyun Lee of the Washington Post reported yesterday that the videos the Department of Homeland Security has been publishing to demonstrate the administration’s triumph over crime in U.S. cities as its agents work “day and night to arrest, detain and deport vicious criminals” have been doctored. They do not represent current actions, but rather are a hash of video from different states and different times. 

    When the reporters asked the White House about the misleading footage, spokesperson Abigail Jackson told them that “the Trump administration will continue to highlight the many successes of the president’s agenda through engaging content and banger memes on social media.”

    There are signs the administration is not just trying to give the impression that Americans are rioting, but is trying to push them to do so. 

    Aaron Glantz of The Guardian reported yesterday that on October 8, Major General Ronald Burkett, who directs the Pentagon’s National Guard bureau, ordered the National Guard in all the states, U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia to form “quick reaction forces” trained in “riot control.” Most states are required to train 500 National Guard personnel, for a total nationwide of 23,500. The forces are supposed to be in place by January 1, 2026.

    In his order, Burkett relied on an executive order Trump signed on August 25, calling on the secretary of defense to “immediately begin ensuring that each State’s Army National Guard and Air National Guard are resourced, trained, organized, and available to assist Federal, State, and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order,” and “ensure the availability of a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resourced, trained, and available for rapid nationwide deployment.”

    In August the administration planned for two groups of 300 troops to be stationed in Alabama and Arizona as a “Domestic Civil Disturbance Quick Reaction Force.” Now that number is 23,500, and the troops will be in every state and territory.

    The establishment of a domestic quick reaction force to quell civil disturbances at a time when there are no civil disturbances that can’t be handled easily by existing law enforcement suggests the administration is expecting those conditions to change.

    That expectation might have something to do with Monday’s story from Anna Giaritelli of the Washington Examiner that the White House is reassigning ICE field officers and replacing them with officers from Customs and Border Patrol (CBP). Greg Wehner and Bill Melugin of Fox News reported that the shift will affect at least eight cities, including Los Angeles, San Diego, Phoenix, Denver, Portland, Philadelphia, El Paso, and New Orleans. 

    White House officials, presumably led by White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, who has said the administration intends to carry out “a minimum” of 3,000 arrests a day, are frustrated by the current pace of about 900 a day. So those officials, including Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, special government employee and Noem advisor Corey Lewandowski, and Greg Bovino, a Border Patrol sector chief who has been overseeing the agency’s operations in Los Angeles and Chicago, have decided to ramp up those deportations by replacing ICE officials with far more aggressive CBP leaders. 

    Tripling arrests will likely bring pushback.  

    Michael Scherer, Missy Ryan, and Ashley Parker of The Atlantic reported today that political appointees Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio have moved onto military bases. 

    The designs of the anti-immigrant leaders in the administration dovetail with Trump’s political designs. Trump has talked a lot about serving a third term in the presidency, most recently talking about it to reporters on Air Force One earlier this week. The Twenty-Second Amendment to the Constitution prohibits a third term, but Trump ally Stephen Bannon told The Economist last week that “Trump is going to be president in ‘28 and people just ought to get accommodated with that.” Bannon claimed, “There’s many different alternatives” to get around the Twenty-Second Amendment. Trump keeps “Trump 2028” campaign hats on bookshelves outside the Oval Office.

    Janessa Goldbeck, the chief executive officer of the nonprofit Vet Voice Foundation, told Guardian reporter Glantz that Burkett’s recent order shows “an attempt by the president to normalize a national, militarized police force.” Such a force has not just military but also electoral power: it could be used in Democratic-led states to suppress voting. In a worst-case scenario, Goldbeck said, “the president could declare a state of emergency and say that elections are rigged and use allegations of voter fraud to seize the ballots of secure voting centers.”
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
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    So just curious... why is it the impression that Americans barely give a shit about the government shutdown? TBH, I kinda forgot about it, since there is so little talk about it. What gives? Does it mean that a shutdown is preferable to the current government operating or what? Also, why in the fuck do these shutdowns keep happening, and why does it seem like Americans think it's sorta normal? Wtf?
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  • josevolution
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    I’m more worried about troops in every state & province! I didn’t realize that there’s rioting and criminals running rampant everywhere 🤷‍♂️
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  • cincybearcat
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    PJ_Soul said:
    So just curious... why is it the impression that Americans barely give a shit about the government shutdown? TBH, I kinda forgot about it, since there is so little talk about it. What gives? Does it mean that a shutdown is preferable to the current government operating or what? Also, why in the fuck do these shutdowns keep happening, and why does it seem like Americans think it's sorta normal? Wtf?
    Well its because most employees that are forced to work still (air traffic controllers, etc) are just starting to miss paychecks so there has been limited impact there.  So unless you are directly effected as you work for the government, are in the military, are 1 of the 40 million on food assistance, one of the other few that might be on other assistance....it has no effect on daily life at all.

    With the food assistance going away there will be a lot of people at risk and they will be vocal as well as those that know someone...

    But till now, how affected daily life up to this point for most?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    They aren't testing nuclear explosions so I don't expect us to start doing something so reckless.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    They aren't testing nuclear explosions so I don't expect us to start doing something so reckless.
    how do you test them without actually blowing a few up?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    i am more pissed off that the house of representatives has been in session working for just 12 of the last 84 days. these people are still getting paid and have basically been on paid vacation for months. they are not in their district holding town halls or meeting with constituents (looking at you, republics). the dems are mostly still in dc. the senate is working and trying to pass bills that the house will not take up. it is beyond frustrating when the people that are supposed to work for me are working for themselves, or doing absolutely nothing and still getting their $170k salary and full benefits.

    the gop could end this today if they wanted to, but they have to have someone to blame during the next election cycle. blaming dems is the only way they can win since their positions are unpopular with the people. 
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    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142

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    Because repubs can’t govern. They know their policies aren’t popular. And they’re beholden to a tyrant. I mean given the circumstances, it would seem reasonable that they could propose an alternative bill to Obamacare as they claimed they’d do for the past 15 years but they don’t believe in healthcare for all. It’s government control and socialism to them. The constant continuing resolutions to fund the government is a political tactic so they can influence elections and make whatever the faux rage of the day is. They control all three branches of government and should be able to pass annual budgets. But again, they know that their spending priorities are not popular and lead to losses at the ballot box.

    Sometimes I wish the Dems would resign enmass and let the repubs run everything because maybe then people will wake the fuck up. There’s no US anymore, just me. Fuck those “others” here and everywhere else (heard CCOOTWH say anything about helping out Jamaica, in any aspect?). Fuck the poors, fuck farmers, fuck everyone else who’s not a white, Christian evangelical.

    It’s already too late. This is what ‘murikkkans voted for and their lack of action, reaction, protest, etc., illustrates that. Any other western style democracy the population would have been on a nation wide strike and shut everything down and made the corporate elites, billionaires and government to take notice. Here? Meh. Elections have consequences and you, general you, get what you vote for, or don’t vote for if not a voter.

    Canada should stop taking or making calls to/from CCOOTWH, recall it’s government officials, tell its citizens to return, ratchet up the tariffs, particularly on intellectual property, turn inward to develop goods and services, and work furiously to create new trade opportunities and alliances. The US can no longer be trusted. There’d be a lot of pain in a 5-7 year term but in the long run, Canada would be better off. The nation of Me can’t see past the next election cycle which starts about every six months. Too many ‘murikkkans are incapable of seeing the bigger picture in reality. Faux rage of the day and anything that pays dividends in the long term is not worth it. They want it now, otherwise, fuck it.

    Again, it’s too late to recover. Sold their souls so an “other” wouldn’t occupy the White House again.

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,265
    let’s nuke the filibuster and get back to normal*





    *well, ykwim