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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,954
    Kat said:
    sinclair only owns our abc affiliate here. for some reason i thought they owned the cbs one a few years ago, but i guess i was wrong.

    nexstar owns our local wb affiliate, which i only watch every few months because they do a three stooges marathon on saturdays and it reminds me of watching it with my dad as a kid.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,834
    edited September 23
    Kat said:
    I'm actually surprised that the Indianapolis stations aren't Sinclair or Nexstar....

    I stand corrected....Nexstar
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,954
    looks like it will not be shown here. 

    should these station owners really be deciding what we can watch? seems a little unethical to me.

    but i guess sinclair can't control what is broadcast, so i guess they can't allow trump and the fcc, and likely sinclair to get roasted, now can they?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,834
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    looks like it will not be shown here. 

    should these station owners really be deciding what we can watch? seems a little unethical to me.

    but i guess sinclair can't control what is broadcast, so i guess they can't allow trump and the fcc, and likely sinclair to get roasted, now can they?
    it's so fucking weird...
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  • DE4173
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    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,109
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,834
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    exactly...the gov't stepping up to help save your life is quite different from the gov't trying to silence a comedian for making fun of the orange shitstain
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,109
    seems the "go woke go broke" folks are a tad misinformed. 

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  • cincybearcat
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    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    exactly...the gov't stepping up to help save your life is quite different from the gov't trying to silence a comedian for making fun of the orange shitstain
    Hmmm, I will need to think on this one again.  I was pretty much for taking down lies etc.....i do think it was dangerous.  But...in retrospect, I am not sure it was correct.  I
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,834
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    exactly...the gov't stepping up to help save your life is quite different from the gov't trying to silence a comedian for making fun of the orange shitstain
    Hmmm, I will need to think on this one again.  I was pretty much for taking down lies etc.....i do think it was dangerous.  But...in retrospect, I am not sure it was correct.  I
    to me that is the gov't doing its job....like passing seatbelt and helmet laws. If the public is too stupid to protect itself the gov't has to step in
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    exactly...the gov't stepping up to help save your life is quite different from the gov't trying to silence a comedian for making fun of the orange shitstain
    Hmmm, I will need to think on this one again.  I was pretty much for taking down lies etc.....i do think it was dangerous.  But...in retrospect, I am not sure it was correct.  I
    Basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, hate speech is acceptable, but intolerance of intolerant statements won't be tolerated. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The document gives law enforcement wide latitude to “investigate, prosecute, and disrupt entities and individuals” engaged in behavior the administration opposes, as well as nonprofit organizations that fund them. It also orders law enforcement to “question and interrogate” people “regarding the entity or individual organizing such actions and any related financial sponsorship of those actions prior to adjudication or initiation of a plea agreement.”  

    Former federal prosecutor Daniel Richman, who teaches at Columbia Law School, told Robert Tait and Aram Roston of The Guardian that an executive order cannot create new crimes, and Timothy Snyder noted that the memo nonetheless “undoes the basic tradition of American liberty and law, which is…that we are individuals to be judged on the basis of what we do as such. This memo, quite to the contrary, begins from the premise that the world is governed by mysterious, invisible entities to which individuals can be arbitrarily associated by the power of the government, thereby making those individuals guilty and subject to prosecution and punishment.” It makes responsibility collective, thus enabling the government to target everybody. “The groups that will…be targeted will be groups that are concerned with things like counting the votes, human rights, freedom of speech, and the rule of law.”
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    what is text that is replaced with the ellipses? 
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  • cincybearcat
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    benjs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    exactly...the gov't stepping up to help save your life is quite different from the gov't trying to silence a comedian for making fun of the orange shitstain
    Hmmm, I will need to think on this one again.  I was pretty much for taking down lies etc.....i do think it was dangerous.  But...in retrospect, I am not sure it was correct.  I
    Basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, hate speech is acceptable, but intolerance of intolerant statements won't be tolerated. 
    Huh?  
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,068
    edited September 26
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    The problem is it wasn't just covid. They've admitted to censoring stories about Hunter due to pressure from government officials 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • eddiec
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    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    The problem is it wasn't just covid. They've admitted to censoring stories about Hunter due to pressure from government officials 

    But wasn't that regarding pics of Hunter's junk? 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,068
    edited September 26
    eddiec said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    From the "It's only okay when our side does it" collection:




    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2025-09-23-letter-to-hjc.pdf
    This is more “both sides” BS. Biden admin wanted to crackdown on mis/disinformation to save lives. We all knew this at the tine. Maga is repackaging their outrage to make it seem the same as what Trump is doing now. 

    Not even fucking close. 
    The problem is it wasn't just covid. They've admitted to censoring stories about Hunter due to pressure from government officials 

    But wasn't that regarding pics of Hunter's junk? 
    I think there were multiple examples. One being about the laptop story. They initially wouldn’t even allow the original story to be posted on their forums, being told the laptop doesn’t exist and is Russian disinformation and to not spread it.
    You can argue how relevant it is, but it definitely existed and they were told to squash the story.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Wow! Hunter’s laptop is back! Maybe the repubs can run on that? Again? I thought CCOOTWH was going to get to the heart of that matter and Hunter would be in jail?

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    Halifax2TheMax said:

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    Wow! Hunter’s laptop is back! Maybe the repubs can run on that? Again? I thought CCOOTWH was going to get to the heart of that matter and Hunter would be in jail?

     The topic was what information has the government censored.
    Do you think Zuckerberg was lying when he said he was pressured to censor stories relating to the laptop? Either he was lying about it, or that information was censored.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

      * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.


    Wow! Hunter’s laptop is back! Maybe the repubs can run on that? Again? I thought CCOOTWH was going to get to the heart of that matter and Hunter would be in jail?

     The topic was what information has the government censored.
    Do you think Zuckerberg was lying when he said he was pressured to censor stories relating to the laptop? Either he was lying about it, or that information was censored.
    honestly, I don't believe a word those techbros say. They all have a big agenda. 
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