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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,281
    DE4173 said:
    Why is it that we can’t hold “responsible” gun owners accountable?
    James and Jennifer Crumbley
    James and Lynda Trent
    Peter Lanza
    Antonios Pagourtzis
    How have they been held accountable?
    1. Great! It’s a start.
    2. Couldn’t find info on these two. Link please.
    3. Couldn’t find information on how he was held responsible but did see where the homeowner’s policy on the mother’s house paid out $1.5M.
    4. Acquitted of civil liability in Tejas. It is Tejas so how is that holding them accountable?
    2. Parents of Nikolas Cruz. Passed away before the settlement 
    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/parents-of-3-students-who-died-in-parkland-massacre-survivor-reach-large-settlement-with-shooter/

    3. Yes, $1.5M split
    https://www.courant.com/2015/08/06/sandy-hook-families-settle-lawsuits-against-lanza-estate-for-15m/

    4. No, just the kid. ❎

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/19/us/texas-school-shooting-parents-trial 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,281
    DE4173 said:
    DE4173 said:
    Why is it that we can’t hold “responsible” gun owners accountable?
    James and Jennifer Crumbley
    James and Lynda Trent
    Peter Lanza
    Antonios Pagourtzis
    How have they been held accountable?
    1. 10-15 years in prison
    2. Pay damages (amount settled confidentially)
    3. Settled out of court for undisclosed amounts)
    4.Potential 20 year sentence; civil suits by victims' families.
    Edit: 

    4. Incorrect. Found not responsible civilly.
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    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
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    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • DE4173 said:
    DE4173 said:
    Why is it that we can’t hold “responsible” gun owners accountable?
    James and Jennifer Crumbley
    James and Lynda Trent
    Peter Lanza
    Antonios Pagourtzis
    How have they been held accountable?
    1. Great! It’s a start.
    2. Couldn’t find info on these two. Link please.
    3. Couldn’t find information on how he was held responsible but did see where the homeowner’s policy on the mother’s house paid out $1.5M.
    4. Acquitted of civil liability in Tejas. It is Tejas so how is that holding them accountable?
    2. Parents of Nikolas Cruz. Passed away before the settlement 
    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/parents-of-3-students-who-died-in-parkland-massacre-survivor-reach-large-settlement-with-shooter/

    3. Yes, $1.5M split
    https://www.courant.com/2015/08/06/sandy-hook-families-settle-lawsuits-against-lanza-estate-for-15m/

    4. No, just the kid. ❎

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/19/us/texas-school-shooting-parents-trial 
    3. I’m not sure these examples illustrate holding a “responsible” gun owner accountable? Lanza’s parents were divorced, his mother had custody of Adam and she was murdered before he went to the school. His mother purchased the gun and allowed him to possess it and the house with the home owner’s policy was hers from the divorce (since razed), IIRC.

    2. The parents were found not civilly liable. The perp is in prison and can’t profit from his crime.

    I’m speaking to situations like the #1 where someone purchases a firearm for someone else or they own firearms that are then used by a kid or someone else to harm someone else, with or without their knowledge or consent. If you buy a firearm or own firearms, it should be your responsibility that they not be used for nefarious or illegal purposes. If they are used in such a manner, you should be held accountable. Be a “responsible” gun owner.

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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,281
    I understand. Thank you for your questions and responses.
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    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,102
    edited September 17
    DE4173 said:
    I imagine team blue will be "cheering" against Patel today while team red "cheers" for him. 🤪
    Patel was very professional in front of the senate.

    something for all Americans to be proud of.
    This is what ‘Muricans should be proud of? Really? Good lord. Sworn testimony I might add.

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  • DE4173 said:
    I imagine team blue will be "cheering" against Patel today while team red "cheers" for him. 🤪
    Patel was very professional in front of the senate.

    something for all Americans to be proud of.
    Seriously? You’re proud of this guy?
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,636
    He is, like his 🍊 overlord, a lying, anti-constitutional,  grifter.
    And completely unprepared for the job of FBI director.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,211
    Just read the texts between the gunman and his roommate and lol. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,840
    mickeyrat said:
    wow these texts between the shooter and his roommate tell the whole story....he really thought he was going to get away with it

    was more concerned about having to tell his dad that he lost the rifle
    seems like a way to lose the case. releasing evidence to the public with no judicial review from defense objections ..
    i think patel is going to bungle this one. if i am the defense attorney i do not have my client plead guilty. i would take my chances of getting an inept,  jabroni ass new grad prosecutor hired by patel.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,029
    mickeyrat said:
    wow these texts between the shooter and his roommate tell the whole story....he really thought he was going to get away with it

    was more concerned about having to tell his dad that he lost the rifle
    seems like a way to lose the case. releasing evidence to the public with no judicial review from defense objections ..
    i think patel is going to bungle this one. if i am the defense attorney i do not have my client plead guilty. i would take my chances of getting an inept,  jabroni ass new grad prosecutor hired by patel.
    I just read a lot of what was released today came from the charging documents, I don’t think that has anything to do with the fbi at this point would it?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,773
    mace1229 said:
    The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized. 

    Or he could be radicalized maga. 

    The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet. 
    The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs. 
    How does one in Utah go radical left?
    Binge watching the West Wing? 

    Read A Moving Train message boards?
    the bitterness

    Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

    west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

    had a nice long post for u the other day  about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.
    No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

    I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left".  That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect.  Good grief! 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,636
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized. 

    Or he could be radicalized maga. 

    The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet. 
    The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs. 
    How does one in Utah go radical left?
    Binge watching the West Wing? 

    Read A Moving Train message boards?
    the bitterness

    Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

    west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

    had a nice long post for u the other day  about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.
    No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

    I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left".  That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect.  Good grief! 
    It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Posts: 965
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized. 

    Or he could be radicalized maga. 

    The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet. 
    The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs. 
    How does one in Utah go radical left?
    Binge watching the West Wing? 

    Read A Moving Train message boards?
    the bitterness

    Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

    west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

    had a nice long post for u the other day  about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.
    No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

    I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left".  That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect.  Good grief! 
    It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".
    When "woke" just doesn't cut it and you need people to be more afraid and hateful. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,380
    mace1229 said:
    The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized. 

    Or he could be radicalized maga. 

    The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet. 
    The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs. 
    How does one in Utah go radical left?
    Binge watching the West Wing? 

    Read A Moving Train message boards?
    the bitterness

    Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

    west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

    had a nice long post for u the other day  about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.
    No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

    Or, perhaps read the forum from a balanced perspective. It’s a goldmine of digs.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,380
    DE4173 said:
    I imagine team blue will be "cheering" against Patel today while team red "cheers" for him. 🤪
    Patel was very professional in front of the senate.

    something for all Americans to be proud of.
    Seriously? You’re proud of this guy?

    It’s a joke. He was literally screaming in front of the senate. That may fit in with certain environments, but not the US senate. Definitely not professional even for those who might agree with him 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,380
    njhaley1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized. 

    Or he could be radicalized maga. 

    The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet. 
    The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs. 
    How does one in Utah go radical left?
    Binge watching the West Wing? 

    Read A Moving Train message boards?
    the bitterness

    Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

    west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

    had a nice long post for u the other day  about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.
    No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

    I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left".  That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect.  Good grief! 
    It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".
    When "woke" just doesn't cut it and you need people to be more afraid and hateful. 

    Woke is a better way of describing the far left than using extremists or leftists?

    and for those thinking the shoe doesn’t fit, set up a new acct and comment like a centrist. Watch the replies with joy.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,997
    Being pro genocide is not generally the stance of a centrist. 
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  • DE4173 said:
    I imagine team blue will be "cheering" against Patel today while team red "cheers" for him. 🤪
    Patel was very professional in front of the senate.

    something for all Americans to be proud of.
    Seriously? You’re proud of this guy?

    It’s a joke. He was literally screaming in front of the senate. That may fit in with certain environments, but not the US senate. Definitely not professional even for those who might agree with him 
    Sure, sure it was.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,840
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized. 

    Or he could be radicalized maga. 

    The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet. 
    The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs. 
    How does one in Utah go radical left?
    Binge watching the West Wing? 

    Read A Moving Train message boards?
    the bitterness

    Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

    west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

    had a nice long post for u the other day  about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.
    No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

    I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left".  That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect.  Good grief! 
    It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".
    by that rationale we are all radical left to maga.
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