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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,771
    edited September 1
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 46 of the 47 countries that make up Europe require photo ID to vote. 
    Yeah, but they would ensure everyone got one and at no cost. The whole point of requiring ID is to dissuade people from voting, by pricing them out, or by inconveniencing them out. The whole point is to chase inaction. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,771
    But if you want us to be more like Europe, I’m fine with that. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,269
    hunterh75 said:
    What's so god damn hard about showing an ID??  JFC.  Some of y'all need to hop on the Freedom Flotilla and help Greta and her lil dutch boy haircut deliver aid to the Oct 7 terrorists. 
    this is a very white person centered perspective.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,269
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Nothing like cheapening everything he touches. Ghouliani and winning.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/01/politics/rudy-giuliani-trump-presidential-medal-of-freedom
    they just give these things out to any old criminal these days.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,593
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 46 of the 47 countries that make up Europe require photo ID to vote. 
    And?
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,348
    Tim Simmons said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 46 of the 47 countries that make up Europe require photo ID to vote. 
    Yeah, but they would ensure everyone got one and at no cost. The whole point of requiring ID is to dissuade people from voting, by pricing them out, or by inconveniencing them out. The whole point is to chase inaction. 
    I’m sure we could pull some scratch from our never ending supply of war, homelessness, and drug addiction enabling funds to help people obtain an ID. Just need the party to start talking about a solution, instead of making excuses. We are required to show ID for a multitude of reasons, it’s not like this is a new concept. Embrace it and call their bluff if you feel this is solely meant to deter voters. 
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,348
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 46 of the 47 countries that make up Europe require photo ID to vote. 
    And?
    OnWis posed the question…
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,477
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    hunterh75 said:
    What's so god damn hard about showing an ID??  JFC.  Some of y'all need to hop on the Freedom Flotilla and help Greta and her lil dutch boy haircut deliver aid to the Oct 7 terrorists. 
    this is a very white person centered perspective.
    Entitled white male centered perspective 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,457
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  • Tim Simmons
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    FiveBelow said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 46 of the 47 countries that make up Europe require photo ID to vote. 
    Yeah, but they would ensure everyone got one and at no cost. The whole point of requiring ID is to dissuade people from voting, by pricing them out, or by inconveniencing them out. The whole point is to chase inaction. 
    I’m sure we could pull some scratch from our never ending supply of war, homelessness, and drug addiction enabling funds to help people obtain an ID. Just need the party to start talking about a solution, instead of making excuses. We are required to show ID for a multitude of reasons, it’s not like this is a new concept. Embrace it and call their bluff if you feel this is solely meant to deter voters. 
    I would if the people pushing it were acting in good faith.

    but also, what do we show IDs for enshrined constitutional rights? 
  • cincybearcat
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    Go Beavers said:
    hunterh75 said:
    What's so god damn hard about showing an ID??  JFC.  Some of y'all need to hop on the Freedom Flotilla and help Greta and her lil dutch boy haircut deliver aid to the Oct 7 terrorists. 
    It’s estimated 20 million people don’t have one. 
    As people say that Voter ID corrects a problem that is statistically so small of an issue...etc etc etc..

    I do wonder how many of those 20 million (I am just assuming you are correct) have voted in the last 20 years?  Did where you got your information from have that data?  Cause why not do a pretty common sense thing (Prove ID to vote) if it really isn't effecting anyone?  

    The poll tax argument is the one that I do struggle with...and I am not sure how to do it effectively cause to prove your identity to get an ID certainly costs $ and you have to have a way to prove your identity to begin with.  Otherwise I'd say use mobile vans to go into communities and offer free IDs (paid for by taxpayers) and then enforce a Voter ID law.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,299
    In Indiana...you can obtain a free voter ID card with the BMV.

    That's nice but it is still a step that a lot of people might have an issue with (i.e. elderly, disabled, etc). It certainly does prevent some people from voting...no doubt about it. And the people it targets are going to be lower income people that rely on public transportation who won't have any other form of picture ID.


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