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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,900
    Won’t click on faux. Bold? Sure. Results? Remain to be seen. Being played? Likely. Corrupt? More than likely.

    I’ll keep the cork in the champagne for now.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,900
    Yeah I don’t think dick measuring tragic events is the way to go here. Bad is bad, and lets make that the threshold 
    But Israel doesn’t do anything bad. Because history.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,386
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    Israel blasts UN aid chief over call to prevent Gaza genocide, UN says 'let us do our work' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-blasts-un-aid-chief-over-call-prevent-gaza-genocide-2025-05-16/
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    Gaza ceasefire talks resume as Israeli assault kills hundreds in 72 hours - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strikes-kill-least-58-palestinians-overnight-2025-05-17/
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,361
    Get_Right said:
    Could there be a bigger disconnect? Welp, at least it’s not gas chambers.

    Israeli airstrikes kill at least 80 as Trump says he wants to turn Gaza into a ‘freedom zone’

    Violence over last 48 hours diminishes hopes that US president’s visit to Middle East would lead to pause in hostilities

    Israel launched a new and intense wave of airstrikes and artillery shelling on targets across Gaza on Thursday morning, killing at least 80 people, as faltering talks on a new ceasefire continued in Qatar and Donald Trump said he wanted to see the US “make” the devastated territory “into a freedom zone”.

    Trump’s statement recalled the plan he put forward in February for the US to take control of Gaza to allow for its reconstruction as a luxury leisure and business hub. The scheme implied the possible permanent displacement of much or all of its population of 2.3 million and triggered global outrage.

    In Qatar, on the third day of his Middle East tour, Trump said: “I have concepts for Gaza that I think are very good: make it a freedom zone, let the United States get involved and make it just a freedom zone. I’d be proud to have the United States have it, take it, make it a freedom zone.”

    Basem Naim, a senior Hamas official, rejected the idea, saying: “Gaza is an integral part of Palestinian land – it is not real estate for sale on the open market. We remain firmly committed to our land and our national cause, and we are prepared to make every sacrifice to preserve our homeland and secure our people’s future.”

    There had been widespread hopes that Trump’s regional visit could lead to a new pause in hostilities or a renewal of humanitarian aid to Gaza, where a tight Israeli blockade is now in its third month.

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    80 vs. 6,000,000+. Even 80,000. Not comparable.
    I wonder if the folks who witnessed the beginning of the holocaust said to themselves, “it’s only 80, 800, 8,000 or 52,000 and it’s nothing to be concerned with. There’s plenty around?” I get it, you can’t draw a single comparison.

    Yes that is a correct point but the bigger point is this is a war and both sides are wrong.

    If you wanted to discuss genocide, accounting for World War II is only a tiny fraction of the crimes against the Jewish people.

    As I say often on this forum, there'd be 150 million Jews living in that region right now had there never been victims of genocide and this entire conversation would be moot because there would be no such thing as Palestine.

     that world doesn't exist but we do see every day the results of genocide when we look at the Middle East every single time we look and see one of the oldest cultures this planet has known reduced to a tiny population
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,386

    BREAKING: The Trump administration is working on a plan to permanently relocate up to 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Libya, five people with knowledge of the effort told NBC News.

    In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the admin. would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, some of the sources say.

    The plan is has been discussed with Libya’s leadership and no final agreement has been reached.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,900
    mickeyrat said:

    BREAKING: The Trump administration is working on a plan to permanently relocate up to 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Libya, five people with knowledge of the effort told NBC News.

    In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the admin. would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, some of the sources say.

    The plan is has been discussed with Libya’s leadership and no final agreement has been reached.
    I wonder if any Palestinians were brought in on this discussion?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,900
    Are the claims of white Afrikaners genocide legitimate? In the context of the holocaust and the denials of what is happening to the Palestinians? Where the fuck is the condemnation of the claim. Oh yea, right.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,885
    Are the claims of white Afrikaners genocide legitimate? In the context of the holocaust and the denials of what is happening to the Palestinians? Where the fuck is the condemnation of the claim. Oh yea, right.
    Well many people are saying it so it must be true 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,885
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-hostages-05-20-2025-402954f7424825ef73ad57f17a701facStrikes on Gaza kill at least 60 people, local officials say, as criticism against Israel mounts
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,900
    Great to see some leadership telling Bibi to fuck off. Finally.
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    Palestinians in Gaza protest against Hamas for a second day
    Updated March 26, 20252:07 PM ET
    Heard on Morning Edition

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    Abu Bakr Bashir

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    Ahmed Abuhamda
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    Transcript

    Children carry signs in Arabic that read, "We refuse to die," during a rally calling for an end to the war, in Beit Lahia, in the northern Gaza Strip, on Wednesday.

    Children carry signs in Arabic that read, "We refuse to die," during a rally calling for an end to the war, in Beit Lahia, in the northern Gaza Strip, on Wednesday.
    AFP/Getty Images

    TEL AVIV, Israel — Something rare and daring is happening in Gaza.

    Large crowds demonstrated against Hamas for a second day Wednesday, the first major protests in Gaza against the Palestinian militant group since the war with Israel began more than a year ago.
    Mohammed Nabil Abu Naser holds a handwritten list of family members killed in an October 2024 Israeli strike in northern Gaza.
    Middle East crisis — explained
    One family. One attack. 132 names. A Gaza investigation

    Eyewitnesses say hundreds swelled to thousands as an anti-war protest in the northern city of Beit Lahia turned into an anti-Hamas protest Tuesday. On Wednesday, thousands more marched down a main street in Beit Lahia.

    "Hamas are terrorists," they chanted, in a video posted online by activists in Gaza. "Out, out, out, Hamas, get out!" NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who took part in the protests attesting to their veracity.

    The protests come at an inflection point in the war for Hamas and for Palestinian civilians in Gaza, analysts say.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,900
    Seriously, WTF is wrong with Israel? What are they trying to hide or deny? Genocide?

    Foreign diplomats come under Israeli fire on official West Bank visit

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,386
    SHOCKING NEWS: 🚨🚨🚨

    🇮🇱🇪🇺 The Israeli military fired on delegates from Europe.

    The foreign delegation in Jenin, West Bank, included officials from the UK, France, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, Italy and Canada fell into fire by the Israeli army
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,900
    mickeyrat said:
    SHOCKING NEWS: 🚨🚨🚨

    🇮🇱🇪🇺 The Israeli military fired on delegates from Europe.

    The foreign delegation in Jenin, West Bank, included officials from the UK, France, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, Italy and Canada fell into fire by the Israeli army
    Act of war? I mean, they’d never fire on their allies, never mind members of the press or medical services, eh? Oh, the USS Liberty not withstanding.
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