Anyone else notice how many more people were in the ga pit on night 2? It was rammed. They even ran out of bracelets, I think because they weren’t scanning your ticket and then giving you the bracelet my guess is a bunch of people used screenshots of ga tickets to get in.
I had an incident with a guy on the rail in Los Angeles. He wanted my friend to back up so he could set his drink on the ground. She wasn’t even that close to him. We both told him off and he eventually backed off and then made nice with us. I’ve had my time on the rail, but some of these people think they own the rail and those spots. Good thing I don’t camp anymore because these people wouldn’t get away with it if they aren’t there for the majority the time. You have to be seen and put the time in. Not just have friends save spots. It’s BS.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
The reason? Probably because she’s not in the rail club and they felt threatened by an outsider. It’s the whole point of this thread. So much for the line policing itself.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
It's ok. You never know what is happening in other people's lives and how they're feeling. Maybe they are not social. Maybe I rubbed them the wrong way. Maybe they had a shitty day. I don't assume anything.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
It's ok. You never know what is happening in other people's lives and how they're feeling. Maybe they are not social. Maybe I rubbed them the wrong way. Maybe they had a shitty day. I don't assume anything.
I'm glad I finally got to meet you though!
I am also glad I got to meet you. I saw you having so much fun. Thanks for sticking up for us and not piling on like the others. You are right that you never know what’s going on in someone’s life and if one person on the rail is having a bad day it doesn’t mean the other 40 people on the rail are horrible people. You are very kind and I hope to share GA with you again.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
It's ok. You never know what is happening in other people's lives and how they're feeling. Maybe they are not social. Maybe I rubbed them the wrong way. Maybe they had a shitty day. I don't assume anything.
I'm glad I finally got to meet you though!
I am also glad I got to meet you. I saw you having so much fun. Thanks for sticking up for us and not piling on like the others. You are right that you never know what’s going on in someone’s life and if one person on the rail is having a bad day it doesn’t mean the other 40 people on the rail are horrible people. You are very kind and I hope to share GA with you again.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
The reason? Probably because she’s not in the rail club and they felt threatened by an outsider. It’s the whole point of this thread. So much for the line policing itself.
Come on lol this is ridiculous. I am in the group that’s being generalized and I love when new people show up.
Walked in last night after the opener. Maybe 8:20. Ended up maybe 10-12 deep in front of Mike. Had a great view. No need to get in much earlier. Unless of course you want a Mike pick.
Nothing like a diehard Cubs/Red Sox/Mariners/Padres fan rocking a Pirates jersey.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
The reason? Probably because she’s not in the rail club and they felt threatened by an outsider. It’s the whole point of this thread. So much for the line policing itself.
Come on lol this is ridiculous. I am in the group that’s being generalized and I love when new people show up.
I know. There is a lot of generalizations and accusations here. There are only about 25 regular campers each show so we are pretty outnumbered.
Anyone else notice how many more people were in the ga pit on night 2? It was rammed. They even ran out of bracelets, I think because they weren’t scanning your ticket and then giving you the bracelet my guess is a bunch of people used screenshots of ga tickets to get in.
Can confirm. Know of at least 2 that got into GA with section 200 level tickets..
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
The reason? Probably because she’s not in the rail club and they felt threatened by an outsider. It’s the whole point of this thread. So much for the line policing itself.
Come on lol this is ridiculous. I am in the group that’s being generalized and I love when new people show up.
I know. There is a lot of generalizations and accusations here. There are only about 25 regular campers each show so we are pretty outnumbered.
It’s not even that many, half the Pitt2 line after n1 was newcomers.
Anyone else notice how many more people were in the ga pit on night 2? It was rammed. They even ran out of bracelets, I think because they weren’t scanning your ticket and then giving you the bracelet my guess is a bunch of people used screenshots of ga tickets to get in.
Can confirm. Know of at least 2 that got into GA with section 200 level tickets..
For N1 they didn’t give us the bracelets right away. For N2 they scanned us and gave us the bracelets right after. For people who came after, I am not sure what they did. But that is what they did for the GA line that was there at doors.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
The reason? Probably because she’s not in the rail club and they felt threatened by an outsider. It’s the whole point of this thread. So much for the line policing itself.
Come on lol this is ridiculous. I am in the group that’s being generalized and I love when new people show up.
I know. There is a lot of generalizations and accusations here. There are only about 25 regular campers each show so we are pretty outnumbered.
It’s not even that many, half the Pitt2 line after n1 was newcomers.
Right. And one was on the rail on Stone’s side. She got a tambourine. She was very excited.
Anyone else notice how many more people were in the ga pit on night 2? It was rammed. They even ran out of bracelets, I think because they weren’t scanning your ticket and then giving you the bracelet my guess is a bunch of people used screenshots of ga tickets to get in.
Same situation last year at Fenway. Night 2 GA way fuller. I suspect folks figured out during night 1 a way to sneak others into GA (your guess is I believe the way) and implemented that on night 2.
So my final word on this: I had a blast the two times this tour I was in GA. People were warm and kind and generous. Our interactions made time fly. There was only ONE person from the "rail gang" who was openly hostile toward me for some reason. It's extremely unfair to condemn a group of people for the behavior of an individual. I like those I met & enjoyed their company. 10/10 would do this again.
I’m really sorry that you had a bad experience, I can’t fathom why anyone would have a reason to be hostile to you of all people. I’m glad to have met you and thank you for Grievance!
The reason? Probably because she’s not in the rail club and they felt threatened by an outsider. It’s the whole point of this thread. So much for the line policing itself.
Come on lol this is ridiculous. I am in the group that’s being generalized and I love when new people show up.
I definitely don’t think and have never said you or the others that have posted here are troublemakers. You guys seem like very nice people. I think the only issue people have here with you guys from the GA line that post here is that you seem to be ignoring the bad behavior of some of the others or telling us there’s no problem “because you’ve never seen it”. But there are problems and troublemakers… apparently there were at least two of them in Pittsburgh.
Having a random wristband would eliminate the possessiveness and entitlement that those troublemakers bring to the line.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh
Can we please ride the high of the tour, be grateful for the band, and the squabbling.
There are plenty of threads that cover a multitude of topics. Try one of those!
YEAH! We’re being negative and wasting energy on GA lines here! The guys just finished a fantastic tour with fantastic shows. So let us just keep getting wound up over lines! It’s important in the world right now!!! But in all seriousness, with everything in the world going on, who actually gives a crap who’s in front row for a concert. I just truly don’t get it…. It changes the outcome of the concert that much for you? I’ve never camped out for rail, and idc who does or doesn’t or where they sit or stand. Just have a good time
Apparently the same group who is up front for every concert?
Okay 😂 and what’s your point?
Mine still stands, how does them being up front change your concert experience that much to where you spend SO much energy being mad about it.
The same people being mad aren’t about to camp out or think it’s stupid, so…… why care? Again I don’t camp out. I’ve never gotten rail. Would it be a cool experience? Of course. Are certain people level of entitlement out of control, yeah. But in no way will I ever let it change how I enjoy a concert. I truly just don’t give a shit who’s up there. I think it’s hilarious how much certain people care in such a negative way. Like, find ANYTHING else to pour that energy into. Ok a handful of people cheat the system a bit. That literally happens in several aspects in people’s every day life, and being mad about who in line and who isn’t at a concert is silly to me.
I don’t care about the rail. Power to them. I care about the shenanigans with GA and line cutting. Also I’m not for cheating on any level.
If you don’t care about rail then why care about line cutting. Like I said, wasted energy. Every group has bad apples. Don’t turn sour because of it. It’s literally not worth the energy. This is a band we’re talking about that plays music for entertainment…. It’s absurd to even think about any of this for more than a few seconds.
Can we please ride the high of the tour, be grateful for the band, and the squabbling.
There are plenty of threads that cover a multitude of topics. Try one of those!
YEAH! We’re being negative and wasting energy on GA lines here! The guys just finished a fantastic tour with fantastic shows. So let us just keep getting wound up over lines! It’s important in the world right now!!! But in all seriousness, with everything in the world going on, who actually gives a crap who’s in front row for a concert. I just truly don’t get it…. It changes the outcome of the concert that much for you? I’ve never camped out for rail, and idc who does or doesn’t or where they sit or stand. Just have a good time
Apparently the same group who is up front for every concert?
Okay 😂 and what’s your point?
Mine still stands, how does them being up front change your concert experience that much to where you spend SO much energy being mad about it.
The same people being mad aren’t about to camp out or think it’s stupid, so…… why care? Again I don’t camp out. I’ve never gotten rail. Would it be a cool experience? Of course. Are certain people level of entitlement out of control, yeah. But in no way will I ever let it change how I enjoy a concert. I truly just don’t give a shit who’s up there. I think it’s hilarious how much certain people care in such a negative way. Like, find ANYTHING else to pour that energy into. Ok a handful of people cheat the system a bit. That literally happens in several aspects in people’s every day life, and being mad about who in line and who isn’t at a concert is silly to me.
I don’t care about the rail. Power to them. I care about the shenanigans with GA and line cutting. Also I’m not for cheating on any level.
If you don’t care about rail then why care about line cutting. Like I said, wasted energy. Every group has bad apples. Don’t turn sour because of it. It’s literally not worth the energy. This is a band we’re talking about that plays music for entertainment…. It’s absurd to even think about any of this for more than a few seconds.
People need something to be mad about on the internet.
Can we please ride the high of the tour, be grateful for the band, and the squabbling.
There are plenty of threads that cover a multitude of topics. Try one of those!
YEAH! We’re being negative and wasting energy on GA lines here! The guys just finished a fantastic tour with fantastic shows. So let us just keep getting wound up over lines! It’s important in the world right now!!! But in all seriousness, with everything in the world going on, who actually gives a crap who’s in front row for a concert. I just truly don’t get it…. It changes the outcome of the concert that much for you? I’ve never camped out for rail, and idc who does or doesn’t or where they sit or stand. Just have a good time
Apparently the same group who is up front for every concert?
Okay 😂 and what’s your point?
Mine still stands, how does them being up front change your concert experience that much to where you spend SO much energy being mad about it.
The same people being mad aren’t about to camp out or think it’s stupid, so…… why care? Again I don’t camp out. I’ve never gotten rail. Would it be a cool experience? Of course. Are certain people level of entitlement out of control, yeah. But in no way will I ever let it change how I enjoy a concert. I truly just don’t give a shit who’s up there. I think it’s hilarious how much certain people care in such a negative way. Like, find ANYTHING else to pour that energy into. Ok a handful of people cheat the system a bit. That literally happens in several aspects in people’s every day life, and being mad about who in line and who isn’t at a concert is silly to me.
I don’t care about the rail. Power to them. I care about the shenanigans with GA and line cutting. Also I’m not for cheating on any level.
If you don’t care about rail then why care about line cutting. Like I said, wasted energy. Every group has bad apples. Don’t turn sour because of it. It’s literally not worth the energy. This is a band we’re talking about that plays music for entertainment…. It’s absurd to even think about any of this for more than a few seconds.
It's worth discussing because there have been altercations, multiple show pauses for medical events, and the general risk that comes.with sleeping on city streets multiple nights. I realize that some people have an interest in compulsively keeping these situations going, but if one of these things eventually escalates it probably means big changes for all of us. We bring it up because the participants seem increasingly incapable of self-policing.
Can we please ride the high of the tour, be grateful for the band, and the squabbling.
There are plenty of threads that cover a multitude of topics. Try one of those!
YEAH! We’re being negative and wasting energy on GA lines here! The guys just finished a fantastic tour with fantastic shows. So let us just keep getting wound up over lines! It’s important in the world right now!!! But in all seriousness, with everything in the world going on, who actually gives a crap who’s in front row for a concert. I just truly don’t get it…. It changes the outcome of the concert that much for you? I’ve never camped out for rail, and idc who does or doesn’t or where they sit or stand. Just have a good time
Apparently the same group who is up front for every concert?
Okay 😂 and what’s your point?
Mine still stands, how does them being up front change your concert experience that much to where you spend SO much energy being mad about it.
The same people being mad aren’t about to camp out or think it’s stupid, so…… why care? Again I don’t camp out. I’ve never gotten rail. Would it be a cool experience? Of course. Are certain people level of entitlement out of control, yeah. But in no way will I ever let it change how I enjoy a concert. I truly just don’t give a shit who’s up there. I think it’s hilarious how much certain people care in such a negative way. Like, find ANYTHING else to pour that energy into. Ok a handful of people cheat the system a bit. That literally happens in several aspects in people’s every day life, and being mad about who in line and who isn’t at a concert is silly to me.
I don’t care about the rail. Power to them. I care about the shenanigans with GA and line cutting. Also I’m not for cheating on any level.
If you don’t care about rail then why care about line cutting. Like I said, wasted energy. Every group has bad apples. Don’t turn sour because of it. It’s literally not worth the energy. This is a band we’re talking about that plays music for entertainment…. It’s absurd to even think about any of this for more than a few seconds.
Because I care about fairness. Not just here but in all walks of life. I try not to accept bad behavior because it normalizes it. Call me a fool but I want a better world not to devolve to our base instincts. I also don’t want bad behavior rewarded. How many people here couldn’t get a shirt or a plate because some people let an a friend or a dozen cut in line? Again no problem with people that line up for rail. I can’t say I’ve meet a ln unfriendly one. People that abuse the system (and it seems there are only a few) I have issues with. The guy up there with a broker license flipping seats for a profit is a real problem.
How do they all the same folks get to be up front. Ive seen it for years since 2000. Literally the same folks. It has to be a number thing And do they get picked by seniority ?
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How do they alwatd get to be up front. Ive seen this since 2000. Literally the same folks. It has to be a number thing
It’s not. It’s getting in line early. In many cases two days early. About 20-25 regular people including myself are willing to do this. There are no lists and no cutting the line that I have seen in terms of the people up front. We follow pretty strict rules about maintaining our spots. I have seen people being sent to the back of the line for going back to their hotel overnight, etc. Some people may think we are crazy for doing this but we are not entitled, we are not cheating the system, we are not rail mafia. We are just people willing to put more time and effort and planning into getting the rail than others. There is really not much more to it. And yes, sometimes issues crop up even amongst ourselves but there is no evil plot to keep others from the rail.
I think part of the issue is that @Chrrie and I are the few people from the regular campers that are active on the forum. So many of you forum regulars don’t know the others. But most of you know who I am and I hope my explanation helps a little.
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It's fine. Not everyone is going to like me. I'm happy some people do.
I'm glad I finally got to meet you though!
since 2000.
Literally the same folks.
It has to be a number thing
And do they get picked by seniority ?
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PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
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PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
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