"...and ease rules for 14- and 15-year-olds who are enrolled in homeschool, virtual education, or those who have already graduated. The house version would allow 13-year-olds to work during the summer of the year they turn 14."
When I was in high school I had 15 year old friends working. They had to get a work permit from school and were only allowed to work certain hours per week. This only allows 13-year olds to work the summer they turn 14, so they are only a few months shy of 14. And it doesn't describe what the restrictions are, I'm sure none of them are allowed full time jobs. I'm not against a 14 year old who is going to virtual school to work 10 hours a week in some circumstances, what's wrong with that? When my kid is 14 and if he wants to work at a car wash for the summer or something, I have no problem with that. Better than sitting around playing video games and watching YouTube all day, that's for sure. And he wouldn't even meet the criteria and be allowed to.
Forcing a 13 year old to work 40 hours picking fruit would be another thing, but that doesn't seem that is what's being pushed.
Its not forcing the kids to do anything, if anything its removing protections to squeeze more out of the dollar. This seeks to take advantage of households who need these kids to work. I'm all for letting kids have jobs and ease into a workforce. If anything there aren't enough businesses that want to take that risk of employing teens. But this moves the needle closer to exploitation.
The parts that this particular news story leaves out is eliminating working time restrictions (currently 6am to 11pm for anyone under 18). They want to remove a 30 min break, usually for meals" for teens that work more than 4 hours.
Again, I'm all for kids getting a job when they want or if the family needs it. But they are kids with responsibilities to school too. And DeSantis saying that they would be replacing immigrant labor is just giving the game away.
I mean, at this point, I don’t even know what you’re advocating for other than just wanting to fight with a couple of posters here.
almost every comment I post gets trolled from someone overseas and someone else that thinks war is a joke (or that it’s my fault for wanting the countries to negotiate a treaty) and the “fight” is my fault. The personal attacks here are endless. Mentioning the rules gets mocked. But it’s me. Remember all the moderate Dems that used to comment here who rarely do anymore?
This forum has responded to trump by moving extremely to the far left, which is no way to reach purple and lean red states for senatorial and electoral votes. That’s the extend of my political passion. Almost all articles and ideas posted here are representative of far left views and often omit significant facts. Say anything contrary gets you a personal attack.
the “fake news “ posted on amt is astounding. Most posts here, if not all , regarding (the original immigrant story) Khalils detainment claimed he broke no laws and he has the exact same rights keeping his visa as citizens. there is significant fallacy there and omission of facts in that view. Bringing that up here causes arguments and personal attacks.
I mean, this place doesn't move any needle. Yes, I do wish every post would be fair and include all relevant information for better discussion, but also, we don't get that in the broader world. I will say you approach the discussions here with better faith than other posters who are no longer with us pushing back on more progressive polocies.
five years ago I stopped watching his show because I thought it was wrong to blame the Democratic Party for the extremism and wokeness on the left.
Since then Biden and liberals proved me wrong. I started watching his show again after trump won four months ago and basically learned why we lost, without the nonsense arguments and attacks from the left.
here is Bill on the View, politely debating with some very liberal women, none of whom dispute what he has to say. A much more adult discussion than what is capable on amt when moderate views are shared. Quote him and prove him wrong with facts. See if this place is capable to politely debate.
I mean, at this point, I don’t even know what you’re advocating for other than just wanting to fight with a couple of posters here.
almost every comment I post gets trolled from someone overseas and someone else that thinks war is a joke (or that it’s my fault for wanting the countries to negotiate a treaty) and the “fight” is my fault. The personal attacks here are endless. Mentioning the rules gets mocked. But it’s me. Remember all the moderate Dems that used to comment here who rarely do anymore?
This forum has responded to trump by moving extremely to the far left, which is no way to reach purple and lean red states for senatorial and electoral votes. That’s the extend of my political passion. Almost all articles and ideas posted here are representative of far left views and often omit significant facts. Say anything contrary gets you a personal attack.
the “fake news “ posted on amt is astounding. Most posts here, if not all , regarding (the original immigrant story) Khalils detainment claimed he broke no laws and he has the exact same rights keeping his visa as citizens. there is significant fallacy there and omission of facts in that view. Bringing that up here causes arguments and personal attacks.
I mean, this place doesn't move any needle. Yes, I do wish every post would be fair and include all relevant information for better discussion, but also, we don't get that in the broader world. I will say you approach the discussions here with better faith than other posters who are no longer with us pushing back on more progressive polocies.
Puh-leeze. Every time I countered his pro-genocide stance he would all-caps me “STOP SPREADING YOUR HATE ON AMT!! WHERE ARE THE MODS??”.
Every time I explained what DEI realky is, he called me a fucking racist.
Every single response in disagreement is somehow a personal attack.
We’re all anti-semites.
Better faith my ass.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
And there it is. Shade and attack and trolling and zero interest in politely exchanging ideas.
I took the high road to their comment by treating it seriously and you go low.
Again and again and again and again.
Think of the arrogance it takes to assume I didn’t understand the Maher comment directed towards me.
I take words at face value. Just trying to help a guy out.
you know you are not telling the truth. You know you are trying to do the exact opposite of what your words say to score political points in a safe space for you at the expense of someone else. Not exactly courageous and there is little chance you behave like this IRL.
But if I were to say you were lying, I’d be breaking rules, or meeting you on your level.
Blaming Palestinians for their own “self-genocide” (your words) ✅ Excusing russia invading ukraine, and preposterously, blaming American democrats for it ✅ Pro deportation of green card holders that don’t share your views ✅ Blaming those who voted Kamala for the election of Trump ✅ Othering those who disagree with you (foreigners, those overseas) ✅ Attacking others endlessly and baselessly with “anti-semite” and “racist” when they disagree with your stance ✅
Sorry, your Victim card has been revoked. Your Good Faith card has been revoked. Your Be Taken Seriously card has been revoked.
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"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
And there it is. Shade and attack and trolling and zero interest in politely exchanging ideas.
I took the high road to their comment by treating it seriously and you go low.
Again and again and again and again.
Think of the arrogance it takes to assume I didn’t understand the Maher comment directed towards me.
I take words at face value. Just trying to help a guy out.
you know you are not telling the truth. You know you are trying to do the exact opposite of what your words say to score political points in a safe space for you at the expense of someone else. Not exactly courageous and there is little chance you behave like this IRL.
But if I were to say you were lying, I’d be breaking rules, or meeting you on your level.
100% I thought you thought it was a compliment. I don’t assume anything.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
Just give your opinion on the subject and discuss and debate politely, please. That's the back and forth of a discussion forum. Stick to the topic. Easy.
five years ago I stopped watching his show because I thought it was wrong to blame the Democratic Party for the extremism and wokeness on the left.
Since then Biden and liberals proved me wrong. I started watching his show again after trump won four months ago and basically learned why we lost, without the nonsense arguments and attacks from the left.
here is Bill on the View, politely debating with some very liberal women, none of whom dispute what he has to say. A much more adult discussion than what is capable on amt when moderate views are shared. Quote him and prove him wrong with facts. See if this place is capable to politely debate.
Bill is still liberal as hell. I'm really interested to hear him talk about his visit with trump next Friday. He said he wasn't going to talk about it until his show aired.
Bill is also one of the funniest stand up comedians I have ever seen.
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I mean, at this point, I don’t even know what you’re advocating for other than just wanting to fight with a couple of posters here.
almost every comment I post gets trolled from someone overseas and someone else that thinks war is a joke (or that it’s my fault for wanting the countries to negotiate a treaty) and the “fight” is my fault. The personal attacks here are endless. Mentioning the rules gets mocked. But it’s me. Remember all the moderate Dems that used to comment here who rarely do anymore?
This forum has responded to trump by moving extremely to the far left, which is no way to reach purple and lean red states for senatorial and electoral votes. That’s the extend of my political passion. Almost all articles and ideas posted here are representative of far left views and often omit significant facts. Say anything contrary gets you a personal attack.
the “fake news “ posted on amt is astounding. Most posts here, if not all , regarding (the original immigrant story) Khalils detainment claimed he broke no laws and he has the exact same rights keeping his visa as citizens. there is significant fallacy there and omission of facts in that view. Bringing that up here causes arguments and personal attacks.
I mean, this place doesn't move any needle. Yes, I do wish every post would be fair and include all relevant information for better discussion, but also, we don't get that in the broader world. I will say you approach the discussions here with better faith than other posters who are no longer with us pushing back on more progressive polocies.
Puh-leeze. Every time I countered his pro-genocide stance he would all-caps me “STOP SPREADING YOUR HATE ON AMT!! WHERE ARE THE MODS??”.
Every time I explained what DEI realky is, he called me a fucking racist.
Every single response in disagreement is somehow a personal attack.
We’re all anti-semites.
Better faith my ass.
Prior to about a month ago I posted on the Gaza problem almost exclusively about wanting a treaty negotiation.
that was met with endless attacks that I personally support genocide and and apartheid. That is textbook personal attack. Which you also did in two separate comments above, when I was explicitly attempting to politely debate.
on DEI, you mocked me for my friends reality. You provided whataboutisms for why this occurred. Made up possible reasons because you can’t comprehend your views could cause harm
On Israel … getting shouted down here with personal attacks not to scale is considered anti semitism. Go and try to figure out what happened at the tufts protests, the school where the Turkish student was detained. Not sure what is more antisemitic- The lack of media attempting to highlight the facts of what happened at that protest or the Jews that got spit on and were forced to leave the student vote under threats of violence.
maher is the perfect comparison. I have as much skin in that topic as he does, an Irish dude from New Jersey. I am only commenting on the horrors that some on the left have become over the past few years.
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The parts that this particular news story leaves out is eliminating working time restrictions (currently 6am to 11pm for anyone under 18). They want to remove a 30 min break, usually for meals" for teens that work more than 4 hours.
heres a better breakdown. Granted the bill is being revised, but there are some weird concessions in the current structure.
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2025/03/25/florida-child-labor-law-bill-2025/82657143007/
Again, I'm all for kids getting a job when they want or if the family needs it. But they are kids with responsibilities to school too. And DeSantis saying that they would be replacing immigrant labor is just giving the game away.
five years ago I stopped watching his show because I thought it was wrong to blame the Democratic Party for the extremism and wokeness on the left.
here is Bill on the View, politely debating with some very liberal women, none of whom dispute what he has to say. A much more adult discussion than what is capable on amt when moderate views are shared. Quote him and prove him wrong with facts. See if this place is capable to politely debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1X-j09o1M
But if I were to say you were lying, I’d be breaking rules, or meeting you on your level.
Excusing russia invading ukraine, and preposterously, blaming American democrats for it ✅
Pro deportation of green card holders that don’t share your views ✅
Blaming those who voted Kamala for the election of Trump ✅
Othering those who disagree with you (foreigners, those overseas) ✅
Attacking others endlessly and baselessly with “anti-semite” and “racist” when they disagree with your stance ✅
Sorry, your Victim card has been revoked. Your Good Faith card has been revoked. Your Be Taken Seriously card has been revoked.
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/306643/talk-about-each-other-here#latest
Just give your opinion on the subject and discuss and debate politely, please. That's the back and forth of a discussion forum. Stick to the topic. Easy.
Bill is also one of the funniest stand up comedians I have ever seen.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
that was met with endless attacks that I personally support genocide and and apartheid. That is textbook personal attack. Which you also did in two separate comments above, when I was explicitly attempting to politely debate.
on DEI, you mocked me for my friends reality. You provided whataboutisms for why this occurred. Made up possible reasons because you can’t comprehend your views could cause harm
maher is the perfect comparison. I have as much skin in that topic as he does, an Irish dude from New Jersey. I am only commenting on the horrors that some on the left have become over the past few years.