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So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
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The band/management seem complacent letting brokers buy the bands’ tickets and sell them there so fans are left with no choice but to browse such links.
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So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
Yup. There's zero incentive for everyone not to put in for 100% of the shows moving forward.
Bring back will call on the day of the show for the 10C please, Sea Kat.
Or go full scorched earth and communicate that the only valid tickets for these events will be in mobile wallets or the Ticketmaster app, and links to random websites will not be honored.
So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
Yup. There's zero incentive for everyone not to put in for 100% of the shows moving forward.
Bring back will call on the day of the show for the 10C please, Sea Kat.
And after all those entries I still will never get GA
So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
Agree. This is the way...strategy wise at least.
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So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
Yup. There's zero incentive for everyone not to put in for 100% of the shows moving forward.
Bring back will call on the day of the show for the 10C please, Sea Kat.
And after all those entries I still will never get GA
We'll all get them even more infrequently, every show becomes trade bait
So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
Yup. There's zero incentive for everyone not to put in for 100% of the shows moving forward.
Bring back will call on the day of the show for the 10C please, Sea Kat.
And after all those entries I still will never get GA
We'll all get them even more infrequently, every show becomes trade bait
And more GA tix will be collected by resellers when those who don't want to work toward a trade dump them on F2F
Why are we locked into a system forcing us to sell tickets on your broken fan to fan platform only to have bots buy them up instantly?
I do not want to sell my tickets just for this to happen and someone else make money off me. @Sea what are my alternatives? Surely after the last 2 years of this happening you guys have a plan? For years we went to willcall and were only able to sell at face value or lower. Now we still sell at face value (not lower though which is hilarious) but it’s ok for the buyer with their tools to flip these tickets for huge profits.
On top of that people are wasting hours and hours of their lives trying to get a sniff of a ticket they have no chance of getting.
Just admit fan to fan is broken, find an alternative that works and move on next tour. Too bad PJ seems to deep with TM now with the lotto, premium tickets, and this system for anything to change.
So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
The current system is just encouraging me to sign up for all tickets. Doesn't make it fair for the real fans.
Or go full scorched earth and communicate that the only valid tickets for these events will be in mobile wallets or the Ticketmaster app, and links to random websites will not be honored.
+1
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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F2F threads are for: Giving a heads up when tickets are being
listed on the Fan to Fan Face Value exchange, timing drops, letting
others know you are in search of a ticket buddy, letting someone know
the tickets they were in search of have dropped. It is never ok to post links to broker sites. We have existing threads discussing tickets, please use those instead of derailing topic integrity. Thank you
F2F threads are for: Giving a heads up when tickets are being
listed on the Fan to Fan Face Value exchange, timing drops, letting
others know you are in search of a ticket buddy, letting someone know
the tickets they were in search of have dropped. It is never ok to post links to broker sites. We have existing threads discussing tickets, please use those instead of derailing topic integrity. Thank you
So you’re censoring the links but haven’t acknowledged 10C F2F tickets being sold for thousands of dollars on those exact broker sites for the past three years? Come on man, we love you but come on
I’m with HHV. It is very cute that the thing the mods took from this discussion is that people were posting links to broker sites. That is obviously not the point of anybody’s post here.
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
F2F threads are for: Giving a heads up when tickets are being
listed on the Fan to Fan Face Value exchange, timing drops, letting
others know you are in search of a ticket buddy, letting someone know
the tickets they were in search of have dropped. It is never ok to post links to broker sites. We have existing threads discussing tickets, please use those instead of derailing topic integrity. Thank you
Non responsive.
The moderators have our backs on the forum but they don’t speak for management. It is what it is.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
F2F threads are for: Giving a heads up when tickets are being
listed on the Fan to Fan Face Value exchange, timing drops, letting
others know you are in search of a ticket buddy, letting someone know
the tickets they were in search of have dropped. It is never ok to post links to broker sites. We have existing threads discussing tickets, please use those instead of derailing topic integrity. Thank you
There is a separate ‘FT/ISO’ thread which covers all the topics you mentioned. And right or wrong, this thread *has* been more focused on challenges with the F2F system and (unfortunately) grievances regarding how F2F has lost any semblance of what made it helpful in the first place.
If the issue is just the links, I think the intent of the posts could still be achieved by *just* pasting screenshots (and not including a link to the broker site).
At the end of the day, I think people are just trying to highlight as many instances as possible of F2F tickets being resold for profit in hopes that the band / management will acknowledge that the system no longer works.
Tickets should be made transferrable (if contractually possible) so that fans can *actually* get their tickets into the hands of other fans. Presently, F2F is actively preventing the thing it was originally intended to facilitate. And people are just frustrated.
Or go full scorched earth and communicate that the only valid tickets for these events will be in mobile wallets or the Ticketmaster app, and links to random websites will not be honored.
The people scanning tickets aren’t going to check that. They are just trying to move people along. That’s why venues don’t do matching of ids and tickets. It’s not the venue’s problem.
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Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
2024: Wrigley II, Fenway II
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2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
Bring back will call on the day of the show for the 10C please, Sea Kat.
2024: Wrigley II, Fenway II
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
Agree. This is the way...strategy wise at least.
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2024: Wrigley II, Fenway II
I do not want to sell my tickets just for this to happen and someone else make money off me. @Sea what are my alternatives? Surely after the last 2 years of this happening you guys have a plan? For years we went to willcall and were only able to sell at face value or lower. Now we still sell at face value (not lower though which is hilarious) but it’s ok for the buyer with their tools to flip these tickets for huge profits.
On top of that people are wasting hours and hours of their lives trying to get a sniff of a ticket they have no chance of getting.
Just admit fan to fan is broken, find an alternative that works and move on next tour. Too bad PJ seems to deep with TM now with the lotto, premium tickets, and this system for anything to change.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
It is never ok to post links to broker sites.
We have existing threads discussing tickets, please use those instead of derailing topic integrity.
Thank you
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
Just tell us you acknowledge it and have informed management
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