#47 President Donald Trump

nicknyr15 said:

cblock4life said:

nicknyr15 said:

For anyone feeling hopeless or down today, please remember…. 

I just got tickets Monday for Chicago.  Can’t wait! 

And Run the Jewels!!
I’ll be at msg.

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

cblock4life said:

nicknyr15 said:

For anyone feeling hopeless or down today, please remember…. 

I just got tickets Monday for Chicago.  Can’t wait! 

And Run the Jewels!!
I’ll be at msg.

I saw them open for RATM...had no idea Killer Mike was in there

Get_Right said:

If your comment is more than four lines. I do not read it. If you link to threads, I do not read it. Make your point, succinctly and intelligently. 

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

cblock4life said:

nicknyr15 said:

For anyone feeling hopeless or down today, please remember…. 

I just got tickets Monday for Chicago.  Can’t wait! 

And Run the Jewels!!
I’ll be at msg.

I saw them open for RATM...had no idea Killer Mike was in there

DE4173 said:

Thank you all for the constructive feedback (mostly) 😄

The AI copy/paste didn't correct anything that was posted?🤔

🚨***AI Warning***🚨

1. The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. 

I don't know the intention of relaying it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Was it that it was a ridiculous claim, was it that 4.8 was too high, too low? 

AI says 9.752M potential deaths 

2. The fentanyl calculation argument is stupid.

Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.

Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.

Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.

Key Takeaways

Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.

Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.

Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.

Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.

3. (Especially since) the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US.

Drugs: No

Guns: Yes

DE4173 said:

AI because Halifax likes it and I may have gained Spiritual's favor, but Get Right won't like past the fourth line:

Comparing all drug exports (specifically illicit drugs, as legal pharmaceutical trade isn’t typically framed as “exports” in this context) between the United States and Canada requires focusing on available data for trafficking of major illegal substances like fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, and marijuana. Given the prominence of fentanyl in recent discourse and data availability, it will anchor the comparison, supplemented by other drugs where possible. This analysis uses FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) seizure data as a proxy for trafficking flows, supplemented by broader trends, as comprehensive undetected amounts are unquantifiable. All insights are current as of March 5, 2025.

Fentanyl

U.S. to Canada: The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reported seizing 10.8 pounds of fentanyl entering Canada from the U.S. in calendar year 2024 (Forbes, 2025). This reflects a small but documented northward flow, likely tied to individual smuggling or small-scale operations rather than major cartels.

Canada to U.S.: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) seized 43 pounds of fentanyl at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP Drug Seizure Statistics). This is a tiny fraction (0.2%) of the 21,889 pounds seized nationwide, with 96.6% from Mexico (NPR, 2024).

Comparison: Canada exports more fentanyl to the U.S. by weight (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs), but both quantities are negligible compared to U.S.-Mexico flows (21,148 lbs). Per capita, 43 lbs across 330 million Americans is 0.059 mg/person, vs. 10.8 lbs across 40 million Canadians at 0.122 mg/person—neither close to the 2 mg lethal dose, but Canada’s per-capita export is slightly higher.

Methamphetamine

U.S. to Canada: CBSA seizure data for 2024 isn’t broken out by drug type beyond fentanyl, but historical trends (e.g., 2003 Canada-U.S. Border Drug Threat Assessment) suggest meth flows both ways, with some U.S.-sourced meth crossing north. In FY 2023, CBSA seized 1,093 lbs of meth total, with no specific U.S. attribution, though X posts suggest U.S. guns often accompany northward drug runs.

Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 3,295 lbs of methamphetamine at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP data), up from prior years, indicating a growing southward flow. This contrasts with 176,000 lbs seized at the southwest border, showing Canada’s role is minor (1.8% of total).

Comparison: Canada exports far more meth to the U.S. (3,295 lbs vs. an unknown but likely smaller U.S.-to-Canada amount). The U.S.’s domestic meth production (DEA, 2024) suggests it’s less reliant on Canadian supply, while Canada may import some from U.S. sources.

Cocaine

U.S. to Canada: CBSA doesn’t specify U.S.-sourced cocaine seizures for 2024, but historical data indicates bidirectional flows, with U.S. ports occasionally routing South American cocaine north. Total CBSA cocaine seizures were 1,433 lbs in FY 2023, with no clear U.S. breakdown.

Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 399 lbs of cocaine at the northern border in FY 2024, vs. 26,822 lbs at the southwest border (CBP). Canada isn’t a major cocaine producer, so this likely reflects transshipment or local distribution south.

Comparison: Likely more cocaine flows from the U.S. to Canada, given the U.S.’s role as a primary entry point from South America (DEA, 2024), though seizure data is inconclusive. Canada’s southward export (399 lbs) is modest.

Heroin

U.S. to Canada: Minimal data exists for 2024, but heroin trafficking northward is rare, as Canada’s supply typically comes from Asia or domestic diversion (RCMP, 2023). CBSA seizures are small and not U.S.-specific.

Canada to U.S.: CBP seized just 14 lbs of heroin at the northern border in FY 2024, vs. 2,328 lbs from Mexico (CBP). Canada isn’t a significant heroin source.

Comparison: Canada exports slightly more heroin to the U.S. (14 lbs vs. near-zero northward), but volumes are trivial on both sides.

Marijuana

U.S. to Canada: Post-2018 legalization in Canada, U.S.-sourced marijuana trafficking has dropped. CBSA seized 4,621 lbs in FY 2023, some possibly from U.S. states with legal markets (e.g., Washington), but 2024 data isn’t detailed.

Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 10,233 lbs of marijuana at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP), reflecting persistent southward smuggling despite U.S. legalization in many states. This is dwarfed by 74,837 lbs from Mexico.

Comparison: Canada exports significantly more marijuana to the U.S. (10,233 lbs vs. an estimated lower U.S.-to-Canada amount), driven by price differences and demand for Canadian strains.

Total Drug Exports (Seizure-Based Estimate)

U.S. to Canada: Combining known 2024 seizures (10.8 lbs fentanyl) with partial prior-year data (e.g., 1,093 lbs meth, 1,433 lbs cocaine, 4,621 lbs marijuana in FY 2023), the U.S. likely exports at least 7,000–10,000 lbs of illicit drugs to Canada annually, assuming unreported 2024 figures align with trends. This is a rough minimum, as undetected amounts could push it higher.

Canada to U.S.: FY 2024 CBP northern border seizures total 13,984 lbs (43 lbs fentanyl, 3,295 lbs meth, 399 lbs cocaine, 14 lbs heroin, 10,233 lbs marijuana), a firm baseline. Undetected flows might double or triple this, but no precise estimate exists.

Comparison: Canada exports more drugs to the U.S. by seizure weight (13,984 lbs vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs), though the U.S.’s figures are less certain due to incomplete 2024 CBSA data. Marijuana dominates Canada’s exports, while U.S. flows likely include more cocaine and meth.

Broader Context

Directionality: Canada’s drug exports to the U.S. are higher in raw volume (13,984 lbs seized vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs estimated), driven by marijuana and meth. The U.S., as a global drug hub, likely sends more cocaine north, but fentanyl flows are surprisingly balanced (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs).

Significance: Both pale beside U.S.-Mexico trafficking (e.g., 245,000+ lbs total seizures in FY 2024). Canada-to-U.S. drug exports are ~5% of southern border totals, while U.S.-to-Canada flows are even less significant relative to Canada’s domestic supply (e.g., British Columbia fentanyl production).

Intent and Impact: U.S. exports fuel some Canadian crime (e.g., guns paired with drugs), while Canada’s southward flows contribute minimally to U.S. overdoses (0.2% of fentanyl seizures).

Conclusion

Canada exports more illicit drugs to the United States than the U.S. does to Canada, based on seizure data (13,984 lbs vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs estimated for FY 2024). Marijuana and methamphetamine lead Canada’s exports, while the U.S. likely sends more cocaine north, with fentanyl showing a slight Canadian edge (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs). Both flows are dwarfed by Mexico’s role, and undetected amounts could shift the balance, but current evidence points to Canada as the net drug exporter in this bilateral comparison. Data gaps (e.g., CBSA’s 2024 totals) limit precision, but the trend holds: Canada’s drug exports to the U.S. exceed the reverse in volume and diversity.