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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    mickeyrat said:


    BREAKING: Europe and Canada to announce shortly that mineral deal has been reached with Ukraine in exchange for security guarantees. The U.S. and ruzzia gets nothing.
    Will WaPo report on it? Regardless, if this is accurate reporting and the “US and Putin on the ritz get nothing,” I’m all for it. Based on the actions of the COOTWH administration, I wish foreign governments would recall their ambassador, stop sharing information with ‘Murica, not answer or return calls from COOTWH, invite him for a “summit” and keep him waiting for three hours before canceling it. Send a message and that message should be, “we don’t and can’t trust you.” Followed by, “fuck you, asshole.”

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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,356
    Will WaPo report on it? Regardless, if this is accurate reporting and the “US and Putin on the ritz get nothing,” I’m all for it. Based on the actions of the COOTWH administration, I wish foreign governments would recall their ambassador, stop sharing information with ‘Murica, not answer or return calls from COOTWH, invite him for a “summit” and keep him waiting for three hours before canceling it. Send a message and that message should be, “we don’t and can’t trust you.” Followed by, “fuck you, asshole.”

    Agree completely! The world needs to recognize America isn't one of the good guys for the next four (and hopefully no longer) years. 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,898
    Already have. Fuck Bozos.


    This might feel good, but the reporters at the Washington Post are still doing the hard work of investigative reporting and good journalism despite Bezos' heavy hand in the Op-Ed section. If we don't support the dwindling number of newspapers still doing the work of holding powerful people to account, we will truly be fucked. We're probably fucked anyway because people increasingly get their news from unreliable sources or from algorithms feeding them what will engage them the most, but mass cancellations of newspaper subscriptions will hasten our demise.
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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,356
    BF25394 said:
    This might feel good, but the reporters at the Washington Post are still doing the hard work of investigative reporting and good journalism despite Bezos' heavy hand in the Op-Ed section. If we don't support the dwindling number of newspapers still doing the work of holding powerful people to account, we will truly be fucked. We're probably fucked anyway because people increasingly get their news from unreliable sources or from algorithms feeding them what will engage them the most, but mass cancellations of newspaper subscriptions will hasten our demise.
    The good journalists need to see the writing on the wall and move to independent journalism. Just my two cents.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,898
    dasvidana said:
    The good journalists need to see the writing on the wall and move to independent journalism. Just my two cents.
    It is very hard for independent outlets to marshal the kind of resources it takes to do investigative journalism of the depth and breadth of the major outlets. Independent outlets can't afford to have people covering local, state and federal government, not to mention to deal with the litigation that can arise out of these investigations.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    BF25394 said:
    This might feel good, but the reporters at the Washington Post are still doing the hard work of investigative reporting and good journalism despite Bezos' heavy hand in the Op-Ed section. If we don't support the dwindling number of newspapers still doing the work of holding powerful people to account, we will truly be fucked. We're probably fucked anyway because people increasingly get their news from unreliable sources or from algorithms feeding them what will engage them the most, but mass cancellations of newspaper subscriptions will hasten our demise.
    The veteran reporters at WaPo, for the most part, have retired, resigned or taken advantage of buyouts. What they invest in as it relates to journalism is “human interest” or “fluff” pieces that don’t impact our daily living. Sure, it could happen to you but chances are, it won’t. Meanwhile, you, general you, subscribe as you watch authoritarianism be implemented because that “news source” you trusted, is owned by a billionaire with an agenda to personally make more money for themselves. No thanks.

    WaPo aside, it’s too late. The revolution will not be televised but it will be ugly.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    The President of the United States is for this. Has sided with the side that does this. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    In case you were wondering. What a reflection.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,158
    dasvidana said:
    Evidence of the billionaires drowning out the voices of the majority of Americans. Exhibit 1: Opinion | Zelensky should apologize to Trump to help Ukraine - The Washington Post
    I hope everyone cancels their subscriptions to this once great newspaper.

    Have done so, weeks ago.    It was so good at one time- what a loss.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,158
    goldrush said:


    Excellent!
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,585
    dasvidana said:
    Evidence of the billionaires drowning out the voices of the majority of Americans. Exhibit 1: Opinion | Zelensky should apologize to Trump to help Ukraine - The Washington Post
    I hope everyone cancels their subscriptions to this once great newspaper.
    It's Marc Thiessen.  He has been the resident MAGA on WashPo for quite some time.  There are opposing views on the page as well.  For example

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/27/macron-trump-putin-ukraine-russia-war/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/28/doge-performance-art-government-efficiency/
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,621
    BF25394 said:
    This might feel good, but the reporters at the Washington Post are still doing the hard work of investigative reporting and good journalism despite Bezos' heavy hand in the Op-Ed section. If we don't support the dwindling number of newspapers still doing the work of holding powerful people to account, we will truly be fucked. We're probably fucked anyway because people increasingly get their news from unreliable sources or from algorithms feeding them what will engage them the most, but mass cancellations of newspaper subscriptions will hasten our demise.
    I'll re-subscribe once Bezos is gone. Fuck him.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,585
    BF25394 said:
    This might feel good, but the reporters at the Washington Post are still doing the hard work of investigative reporting and good journalism despite Bezos' heavy hand in the Op-Ed section. If we don't support the dwindling number of newspapers still doing the work of holding powerful people to account, we will truly be fucked. We're probably fucked anyway because people increasingly get their news from unreliable sources or from algorithms feeding them what will engage them the most, but mass cancellations of newspaper subscriptions will hasten our demise.
    I have subscriptions to WashPo and WSJ.  I have no intention of cancelling so long as the reporting stays straight.  Where the editorial direction goes, I'm less concerned.  

    Regarding the minerals deal, nothing about it being secured with Europe, but in negotiation.  Ukraine is still willing to do deal with the US though. 

    https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20250301-france-and-eu-move-to-secure-ukraine-minerals-as-us-pushes-for-deal
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,324
    Amen. I think what we need is a fucking thorough ass kicking.
    Psssst.......just a quick FYI.....Russia has nukes.....this wasn't well thought out.
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,324
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    He's a puppet & he was put in place by the US. They are not having elections because they know he would be voted out. Also free speech is a bit dicey there as well. 

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/ukraine-parliament-affirms-elections-wartime-rebuff-trump/story?id=116193627


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-helps-pro-ukraine-media-run-a-fog-machine-of-war/ar-AA1nFqzb

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,880
    😂😂 as if Russia has fair elections and freedom of speech 
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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,324
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    mrussel1 said:
    I'm Ukrainian.  My father was born in the Ukraine.  My proper last name is Rosul.  My father was Mykola Uilyam Rosul.  

    You don't have a fucking clue about how Ukrainians think and feel about independence.  Don't patronize us about Ukrainians being slaughtered. Half of my family was lost in Holodomor, murdered by the Soviets in Moscow.  

    You don't give a shit about Ukrainians.  If you did, you'd understand why they can never be subjugated by the Russians again.  They can end the war and cede territory for security guarantees, and that's what will happen.  But they will not and cannot rollover. 
    One million people dead. Ukraine is getting wrecked and people are dying and being displaced. You have to come to the negotiating table. 
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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,324
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,158
    😂😂 as if Russia has fair elections and freedom of speech 
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    Whoa!  Someone actually believes this??? 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Show us where anyone here posted they want US boots on the ground.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,314
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    That you’re in disbelief of things you’ve imagined is a good thing. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,880
    No we don’t want any American boots on the ground just simple Russian retreat all the way back to Moscow! After all they are the fucking INVADERS 
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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,324
    Show us where anyone here posted they want US boots on the ground.
    Where the hell do you think this war is heading? Its rather naive to think its not heading that direction. So you're one of those war lovers that thinks we should should send money instead for murder..You have a president trying to push for cease fire that should be applauded right now. Mind boggling. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,413
    Where the hell do you think this war is heading? Its rather naive to think its not heading that direction. So you're one of those war lovers that thinks we should should send money instead for murder..You have a president trying to push for cease fire that should be applauded right now. Mind boggling. 
    Trump fills the air with words about the war ending. He’s not actually doing anything to make that happen. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    Where the hell do you think this war is heading? It’s rather naive to think it’s not heading that direction. So you're one of those war lovers that thinks we should should send money instead for murder..You have a president trying to push for cease fire that should be applauded right now. Mind boggling. 
    It’s not heading toward “US boots on the ground.” Trying to push for a ceasefire? Where do you get your information?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,200
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Saying people are "pro war" is like saying people are "pro-abortion ".
    People on here supporting Ukraine's right to defend themselves against an invading force is not being "pro war".
    Its Pro-Ukraine defending their homeland and their citizens.
    Anyone supporting the invaders is supporting  the enemies of Ukraine and America.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,885
    Good lord, “money for murder.” Now tell us how you feel about Palestine.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,368
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 

    Reading this is bizarre. Someone sitting at their computer or in bed with their phone or whatever, actually thinking these thoughts, projecting strange imaginings onto the other people on this board is just weird to think about, lol.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,585
    One million people dead. Ukraine is getting wrecked and people are dying and being displaced. You have to come to the negotiating table. 
    Ukrainians are not Vichy.  When will you understand that Ukrainians are willing to die for their freedom.  I'm sad to know that you would not.  Evidently you would live under oppression.  
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