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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    mrussel1 said:
    Interview of Z on Fox news by Brett Baier.  He is fighting for his people and his people are fighting for their freedom.  How can anyone criticize that?

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/zelenskyy-speaks-out-after-public-spat-trump-vance-dustup-bad-both-sides
    The QtRUmplican sycophants will criticize  because  they support the orange 🍊 🤡 and he supports putin.
  • mace1229
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nato should throw us out, accept ukraine, and then go wipe putin off of the map. 
    I don’t think that would be bad for anyone. The kicking us out of nato anyway. The US is the biggest contributor to nato and the UN, and therefore gets the majority of criticism with any of their conflicts while we have the least to gain from the alliance. I say that because Canada and Mexico aren’t threats, Russia is a bigger threat to European countries than to us. 
    But wiping Putin out is going to start wwiii. And certainly going to want our help when that starts.
  • BF25394
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    Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed. What a disgrace. Our country needs a reboot. A minority of the electorate voted for this craven, malevolent, mendacious moron, and tens of millions of others are so disengaged that they didn't vote at all. We are whistling past the graveyard, America.

    And, by the way, after they complete their mission to destroy the government and it fails to deliver vital services to tens of millions of Americans and leaves us all vulnerable and unsafe, they'll say, "See, we told you government doesn't work," and millions of our ignorant fellow citizens will nod along obliviously. When the heart of your philosophy is "government is bad," what incentive do you have to govern well?
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • brianlux
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    BF25394 said:
    Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed. What a disgrace. Our country needs a reboot. A minority of the electorate voted for this craven, malevolent, mendacious moron, and tens of millions of others are so disengaged that they didn't vote at all. We are whistling past the graveyard, America.

    And, by the way, after they complete their mission to destroy the government and it fails to deliver vital services to tens of millions of Americans and leaves us all vulnerable and unsafe, they'll say, "See, we told you government doesn't work," and millions of our ignorant fellow citizens will nod along obliviously. When the heart of your philosophy is "government is bad," what incentive do you have to govern well?
    "Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed."
    Thank you, BF.  These are pretty much the exact words I logged on here to say after just watching video of the Trump/Vance tantrum slung at Velensky.  Two overgrown adolescents barking and bating like middle school bullies.  The whole country should be embarrassed, and anyone who is not needs to get their head out of their ass.
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  • benjs
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    brianlux said:
    BF25394 said:
    Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed. What a disgrace. Our country needs a reboot. A minority of the electorate voted for this craven, malevolent, mendacious moron, and tens of millions of others are so disengaged that they didn't vote at all. We are whistling past the graveyard, America.

    And, by the way, after they complete their mission to destroy the government and it fails to deliver vital services to tens of millions of Americans and leaves us all vulnerable and unsafe, they'll say, "See, we told you government doesn't work," and millions of our ignorant fellow citizens will nod along obliviously. When the heart of your philosophy is "government is bad," what incentive do you have to govern well?
    "Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed."
    Thank you, BF.  These are pretty much the exact words I logged on here to say after just watching video of the Trump/Vance tantrum slung at Velensky.  Two overgrown adolescents barking and bating like middle school bullies.  The whole country should be embarrassed, and anyone who is not needs to get their head out of their ass.
    I think those are the right words. I have American blood, even if I'm not an American, and this truly had an effect on me physically - I got butterflies in my stomach (in a bad way). It's so fucking disappointing to think that some will teach their children that these are role models to aspire to behave like. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    This is who the President of the United States sided with today. I hope all you COOTWH voters are proud of yourselves. Nice job.

    Russia

    Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russian Security Council, wrote on Telegram that Trump had given Ukraine a “strong slap on the wrist”.

    “For the first time, Trump told the cocaine clown the truth to his face: the Kyiv regime is playing with the third world war. And the ungrateful pig received a strong slap on the wrist from the owners of the pigsty. This is useful. But it’s not enough – we must stop military aid to the Nazi machine,” said Medvedev, who is also a former Russian president.

    Maria Zakharova, the spokesperson for Russia’s Foreign Ministry, also praised Trump for showing “restraint” with the Ukrainian leader, whom she called a “scumbag”.

    “I think Zelensky’s biggest lie of all his lies was his assertion in the White House that the Kyiv regime in 2022 was alone, without support,”  she wrote on Telegram. “How Trump and Vance held back from hitting that scumbag is a miracle of restraint.”


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  • brianlux
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    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    BF25394 said:
    Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed. What a disgrace. Our country needs a reboot. A minority of the electorate voted for this craven, malevolent, mendacious moron, and tens of millions of others are so disengaged that they didn't vote at all. We are whistling past the graveyard, America.

    And, by the way, after they complete their mission to destroy the government and it fails to deliver vital services to tens of millions of Americans and leaves us all vulnerable and unsafe, they'll say, "See, we told you government doesn't work," and millions of our ignorant fellow citizens will nod along obliviously. When the heart of your philosophy is "government is bad," what incentive do you have to govern well?
    "Embarrassed. Disgusted. Ashamed."
    Thank you, BF.  These are pretty much the exact words I logged on here to say after just watching video of the Trump/Vance tantrum slung at Velensky.  Two overgrown adolescents barking and bating like middle school bullies.  The whole country should be embarrassed, and anyone who is not needs to get their head out of their ass.
    I think those are the right words. I have American blood, even if I'm not an American, and this truly had an effect on me physically - I got butterflies in my stomach (in a bad way). It's so fucking disappointing to think that some will teach their children that these are role models to aspire to behave like. 

    I was talking to a close friend just this evening and we both felt the same way about how the travesty that is happening in this country has the affect of leaving many people feeling sickened by the embarrassing and despicable behavior of the bullies currently in power.  We both agreed anyone with any kind of common sense and decency and understanding of how detrimental all this is will feel the same way.  These are our darkest times.

    I guess a lot of MAGA supporters at this point think this is all just grand.  I will have no words of pity for them when they find they have ruined this country and on the long run their very lives.  What utter foolishness.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Trying really, really hard to articulate his disdain but only managed to express some 5th grade playground grunts and left the big boy speaking to JD Byryder.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Meanwhile, Zelensky showed the patience of a parent dealing with a petulant 8 year old.


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  • dasvidana
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    so disgusted with our country for voting for these fools. We have truly lost our way as Americans. I hope the world will eventually forgive us.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And now the democratic governments the world over know they can’t trust the US. At all.


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    Floozy Lyndsey says he couldn’t be prouder of his saviors behavior! 
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  • mrussel1
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    josevolution said:
    Floozy Lyndsey says he couldn’t be prouder of his saviors behavior! 
    Putin has the goods on Trump, Trump has the goods on Lindsay.  He truly is a "bottom".  
  • Gern Blansten
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    It is odd that Lindsay felt it necessary to say something...it's almost like he was ordered to
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  • Zod
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    dasvidana said:
    so disgusted with our country for voting for these fools. We have truly lost our way as Americans. I hope the world will eventually forgive us.

    A big part of that, is probably how much worse it gets, and if the U.S. will actually be able change direction in the future.

    Up here in Canada, most of us are pretty concerned about becoming the next Ukraine.  That video yesterday was brutal.

    A large portion of America supports what's going on, and the rest just say they're sorry, which won't feel great if there's an effort to weaken us through economic force followed by annexation/invasion :(

    I'm kind of shocked there's not bigger push back in the US like mega protests and civil unrest.   Dude's systematically hacking government, anything that would check/balance what the executive branch is doing, controlling the narrative/media, and the good half of America thinks they can wait 2 or 4 years for fair and equitable elections?
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  • DE4173
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    edited March 1
    Zod said:
    dasvidana said:
    so disgusted with our country for voting for these fools. We have truly lost our way as Americans. I hope the world will eventually forgive us.

    A big part of that, is probably how much worse it gets, and if the U.S. will actually be able change direction in the future.

    Up here in Canada, most of us are pretty concerned about becoming the next Ukraine.  That video yesterday was brutal.

    A large portion of America supports what's going on, and the rest just say they're sorry, which won't feel great if there's an effort to weaken us through economic force followed by annexation/invasion :(

    I'm kind of shocked there's not bigger push back in the US like mega protests and civil unrest.   Dude's systematically hacking government, anything that would check/balance what the executive branch is doing, controlling the narrative/media, and the good half of America thinks they can wait 2 or 4 years for fair and equitable elections?
    No one cares. We are performative activists posting on social media, band's forums, etc, cosplaying as Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, Greta Thunberg and "Tank Man" from Tiananmen Square. We have our yards to keep up, kid's soccer games to attend and several streaming services to watch.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    It’s too late.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    If you’re looking out the window and thinking it’s a beautiful day and checks and balances, I’ve got news for you. You might want to reassess your view.

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