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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How long until its ok to call the US a piece of shit country?

    Just read that the US demands on Ukraine is higher than on Germany after WW1. 

    In it's current incarnation, yup.
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  • The Juggler
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How long until its ok to call the US a piece of shit country?

    Just read that the US demands on Ukraine is higher than on Germany after WW1. 
    What are you waiting for?
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  • mickeyrat
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    The Juggler said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How long until its ok to call the US a piece of shit country?

    Just read that the US demands on Ukraine is higher than on Germany after WW1. 
    What are you waiting for?

    wait, he hadnt begun this already?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    edited February 17
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How long until its ok to call the US a piece of shit country?

    Just read that the US demands on Ukraine is higher than on Germany after WW1. 
    It will be interesting to see how Putin reacts. What if he intensifies attacks on Ukraine after these "discussions" with trump have taken place? That will surely put trump in a position that will be hard to explain.

    trump is digging a deep fucking hole
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
    How about by the people who elect those “leaders”?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
    How about by the people who elect those “leaders”?
    Those that elected him amount to a quarter of the population. Hardly a majority. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
    How about by the people who elect those “leaders”?
    Those that elected him amount to a quarter of the population. Hardly a majority. 
    Regardless, it’s become a shit hole country. If you don’t believe it now, give it another year, year and a half. The majority of the populace, post election, seems just fine with the direction we’re headed in, which is down the toilet.
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  • FiveBelow
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
    Hear, hear!

  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,259
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
    Exactly. Hilarious coming from a group of people that seem to live a very comfy life.  Fucking ridiculous attitude honestly. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    spooky shit
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  • cutz
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    Poncier said:
    Gern Blansten said:
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    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Just wanna say thanks to @mickeyrat for keeping the insane amount of insane maga info flowing here. It is so hard to keep up with it all (and even with your help, we all need to know that we have to keep our eyes wide open to everything... boggling out of our heads).

    really? I appreciate that.
    Sometimes it feels like too much posting and others have intimated as much not too long ago. 

    Plus it seems like I'm not even posting half of the shit going on.
    I appreciate the info too, but the nature of the screen shots make it unreadable to me unless I quote your post and then backspace if I have nothing to say. But that's MY problem. lol
    same with me....I can't read it but I try!

    well, I am on the phone so maybe that formatting is at play?
    yeah I think when viewing on a phone it looks perfect...just on desktop it's really hard to see
    On desktop, I right click and open the image in new tab and can see it that way.
    On my Laptop I just expand the screen to make the words larger and easier to read.
  • The Juggler
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The US is not a shithole. I refuse to define a country by its leaders. Turn off the news, and it’s the same place it was 6 months ago. Shitty people live everywhere. That has always, and will always, be the case. 

    US politics is a shithole. 
    It's more than politics. It's every day life for more and more people.

    What if you have a job in government? Turning off the news won't get you your job back.

    What if you came here illegally 25 years ago but have led an honorably life since then? Turning off the news won't stop them from deporting you.

    What if you're a woman in Texas and were raped recently and need an abortion? Turning off the news won't magically allow you to get one. 

    What if you're the parent of a special needs kid? Turning off the news won't change the fact that freezing education funding will make it more difficult for your child to get the education he or she deserves.

    What if you are living paycheck to paycheck and voted for the guy who said he'd make prices drop on Day One? Turning off the news won't change the fact that prices are continuing to increase and will likely increase further, unnecessarily, due to new tariffs.

    What if you're a Ukrainian American and have family in Ukraine? Turning off the news won't change the fact that your country is essentially getting ready to turn it's back on it's obligations and hand Vladimir Putin an enormous victory, thus putting your family in greater danger.


    More people should turn the news on. More people should start reading newspapers again.



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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    Everything you listed is true. And it’s scary AF to be watching it in real time. Your government is a dumpster fire. But your country is still not a shithole. 

    I agree with your last sentence. Disagree with your second last sentence. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    The people that need to read the news already consider themselves well informed.

    It reminds me of a client of mine. Old lady who told me she listened to Rush Limbaugh in the morning, then watched Glen Beck, then Mark Levin, etc. My grandma used to watch game shows and soap operas and was much better informed.
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  • The Juggler
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    edited February 17
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Everything you listed is true. And it’s scary AF to be watching it in real time. Your government is a dumpster fire. But your country is still not a shithole. 

    I agree with your last sentence. Disagree with your second last sentence. 
    I didn't say it was, neither did Spiritual, by the way. 

    How do you define a piece of shit country though? Was Germany a piece of shit country a hundred years ago? Not saying we are about to send a bunch of people to concentration camps but they elected Hitler just like we elected Trump. He was elected with less than 50% of the vote too. That Nazi government was surely a dumpster fire!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Everything you listed is true. And it’s scary AF to be watching it in real time. Your government is a dumpster fire. But your country is still not a shithole. 

    I agree with your last sentence. Disagree with your second last sentence. 
    I didn't say it was, neither did Spiritual, by the way. 

    How do you define a piece of shit country though? Was Germany a piece of shit country a hundred years ago? Not saying we are about to send a bunch of people to concentration camps but they elected Hitler just like we elected Trump. He was elected with less than 50% of the vote too. That Nazi government was surely a dumpster fire!
    You really splitting that hair? He asked “how long until we can start calling the US a shithole?”. 

    Anyway, I don’t have the criteria you seek. But it doesn’t happen a month into a new presidency. 
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  • The Juggler
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Everything you listed is true. And it’s scary AF to be watching it in real time. Your government is a dumpster fire. But your country is still not a shithole. 

    I agree with your last sentence. Disagree with your second last sentence. 
    I didn't say it was, neither did Spiritual, by the way. 

    How do you define a piece of shit country though? Was Germany a piece of shit country a hundred years ago? Not saying we are about to send a bunch of people to concentration camps but they elected Hitler just like we elected Trump. He was elected with less than 50% of the vote too. That Nazi government was surely a dumpster fire!
    You really splitting that hair? He asked “how long until we can start calling the US a shithole?”. 

    Anyway, I don’t have the criteria you seek. But it doesn’t happen a month into a new presidency. 
    But what country, right now, would be considered either a piece of shit or a shithole to you? I believe your argument would likely apply to any country on earth. 

    Are you just suggesting it has to do with timing now? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    A US VP just met with the leader of a far right, Nazi party. In Germany. Let that sink in. There’s a bunch of dead US soldiers, suckers and losers, if you prefer, spinning in their graves in Normandy. And let’s not forget Ronny Raygun’s laying a wreath at a cemetery of German dead. Quite the arc, eh?
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