#47 President Donald Trump

cincybearcat said:

Tim Simmons said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


“Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.

Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

Not immigration. Drug smuggling.

The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

.2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?

causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

Because its taking an axe rather than a scalpel. They didn't need to cause immediate pain, confusion and uncertainty. 

you want to know the global chaos? Its doubt that the US will be a properly functioning global leader. 

It's the equivalent of lazy management at a corporation.  If you do business this way you do not have an understanding of your business.

brianlux said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


“Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.

Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

Not immigration. Drug smuggling.

The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

.2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?

causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.

So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?

I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 

OnWis97 said:

brianlux said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


“Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.

Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

Not immigration. Drug smuggling.

The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

.2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?

causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.

So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?

I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 

I can't speak for any one person but I do think MAGA is OK with that. What actually happens is not the issue anymore and hasn't been for a while. It's about winning "politics-as-sport" game. And they're dominating. That's why I don't talk any of them about this. Once it became evident that most of them don't actually care what happens, the futility was obvious.

brianlux said:

OnWis97 said:

brianlux said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


“Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.

Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

Not immigration. Drug smuggling.

The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

.2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?

causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.

So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?

I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 

I can't speak for any one person but I do think MAGA is OK with that. What actually happens is not the issue anymore and hasn't been for a while. It's about winning "politics-as-sport" game. And they're dominating. That's why I don't talk any of them about this. Once it became evident that most of them don't actually care what happens, the futility was obvious.

I think  MAGA is irrelevant anymore.  One billionaire and his small team of tech geeks are winning and everyone else is losing.  And when you're losing, it's time to push back.  That may prove to be futile, but it only makes sense to try and it beats giving up. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


“Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.

Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

Not immigration. Drug smuggling.

The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

.2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?

causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.

Looks like someone recently got pardoned. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


“Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.

Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

Not immigration. Drug smuggling.

The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

.2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?

causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.

here's one. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

god these people are so fucking stupid. the sun rises tomorrow and dipshit's going to take credit for it, and his sycophants will claim he invented the goddamn sunrise. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/politics/video/trump-canada-tariffs-pause-catherine-rampell-scott-jennings-digvid-tsr

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

god these people are so fucking stupid. the sun rises tomorrow and dipshit's going to take credit for it, and his sycophants will claim he invented the goddamn sunrise. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/politics/video/trump-canada-tariffs-pause-catherine-rampell-scott-jennings-digvid-tsr

His defensive, high pitched squeal of a voice indicates that he doesn’t believe his own spin. Particularly with his facial expressions. If you raise your voice and speak fast, what you say is true.