#47 President Donald Trump

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,146
    Disagree....he won both the popular and electoral votes. And the GOP controls the House and Senate.

    Gerrymandering, voter suppression.  I don't think the people have spoken.  But it doesn't matter.  We're stuck with a clown president Dictator, and his side kick just executed a coup on the nations financing.  We are no longer a democracy. 
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,848
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Get_Right said:

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,693
    mickeyrat said:

    less than 50% vote total spoke for hom. 77,3xx,xxx  miilion out of some 240 million eligible to vote spoke.  fun fact. 77,9xx,xxx voted for somebody else.
    I don't think you're ever going to get more voter turnout, that has nothing to do with the EC. And the winer often doesn't;t get more than 50% of the vote either.
    But the EC can use some tweaking. I don't like the all or nothing for example, should get electoral votes based on percentage or districts won.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,246
    mace1229 said:
    I don't think you're ever going to get more voter turnout, that has nothing to do with the EC. And the winer often doesn't;t get more than 50% of the vote either.
    But the EC can use some tweaking. I don't like the all or nothing for example, should get electoral votes based on percentage or districts won.
    Percentage of EC votes for the state based on popular vote breakdown of that state. I think that will change the 270 requirement though so some recalculating would be needed. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,848
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 

    He has been threatening tariffs from day one. Any chaos is caused by companies and countries that refuse take him seriously, even after his actions during his first term. Our historical way of legislating does not seem to work, at least from Trump's perspective.
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,335
    EC 2016: 😡
    EC 2020: 😴
    EC 2024: 😡
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,246
    DE4173 said:
    EC 2016: 😡
    EC 2020: 😴
    EC 2024: 😡
    You can go back a few decades with these. 2000 is for sure the year that should have ushered in changes, but then again 2012 should have ushered in gun control changes. It isn't happening. Either way, someone will always be unhappy after an election. I don't think it's rigged or stolen, but much like SCOTUS appts. and lack of term limits on politicians, there should be some changes.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,352
    Get_Right said:

    He has been threatening tariffs from day one. Any chaos is caused by companies and countries that refuse take him seriously, even after his actions during his first term. Our historical way of legislating does not seem to work, at least from Trump's perspective.

    Threatening Canada before Election Day? Please share.


    FWIW the drug issue is a problem, not an emergency. 9/11, Katrina, the LA fires, those are examples of emergencies. 
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,351
    Get_Right said:

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    I’ll tell you what’s idiotic, announcing the tarrifs on Saturday and when asked what they can do to stop them, he said “nothing can be done”. Causing global chaos in the markets, retaliatory tariffs announced and then hours before going into effect, pausing them because both countries plan to do what was, for the most part, already planned. There are more effective ways than doing the typical Trump bullshit, reality TV, clown show. Maybe get off social media and communicate with your allies directly and respectfully and come to a joint agreement that shows strength and unity to the rest of the world. Be a fucking leader and not a petulant baby. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Get_Right said:

    He has been threatening tariffs from day one. Any chaos is caused by companies and countries that refuse take him seriously, even after his actions during his first term. Our historical way of legislating does not seem to work, at least from Trump's perspective.
    no, it's caused by an idiot pulling that shit without first speaking to the leaders of the affected nations. all the moron had to do was get them on the phone. 
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,335
    Anyone else not getting the Google Maps update?

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,481
    Lock someone up for that. They need to show more loyalty.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,146
    edited February 5
    DE4173 said:
    Anyone else not getting the Google Maps update?

    Mine still shows "Gulf of Mexico.  It's just another one of Trump's games to distract us. 
    But even Trump himself is a distraction.  The real story is Musk and his plan to use AI to control the country.  And that's no conspiracy theory.  It's happening. 

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  • causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,335
    I forgot the /s

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,964

    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone 


    which people will be living there?

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    Looks like someone recently got pardoned. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,409
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    Defending Trump’s recent actions while being condescending about civics sure is interesting. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,964
    Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?


    Because its taking an axe rather than a scalpel. They didn't need to cause immediate pain, confusion and uncertainty. 

    you want to know the global chaos? Its doubt that the US will be a properly functioning global leader. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,964
    edited February 5
    No one is arguing about any of those things (well anything that isn't kicking Palestinians out of Gaza), its the heavy handed execution of it that people are taking issue with and based on the first term, there isn't a confidence that it will be well intentioned or even done correctly. So people are off put. 


    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,964


    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    But this accusation is 

  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,295
    But this accusation is 

    In keeping with the MAGA trend of every accusation being projection. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Legislation is a term used broadly in most democracies. Whether it be enacted by the judiciary, legislative, or executive branches. 

    I always love when some doosh who knows nothing about anything outside his own borders tries to criticize others. 

    I also use the letter “u” in some words. 

    Reminds when I often see idiot conservatives try to “own the libs” when they use the word “democracy” when referring to the states. “We’re not a democracy, we’re a republic”. So, so intelligent. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    I suppose you pop a zit with a sledgehammer? BRILLIANT
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,335

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,295
    edited February 5

    Burning a house down because it's infested w/ ants makes sense if you don't think about it. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,612
    But this accusation is 

    One has to take their hat off to the maga logic...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,699
    Because its taking an axe rather than a scalpel. They didn't need to cause immediate pain, confusion and uncertainty. 

    you want to know the global chaos? Its doubt that the US will be a properly functioning global leader. 
    It's the equivalent of lazy management at a corporation.  If you do business this way you do not have an understanding of your business.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,308

    Burning a house down because it's infested w/ ants makes sense if you don't think about it. 
    And the irony of accompanying this with an entirely new department focused on government efficiency. How much busywork does this cause for both countries? Sheesh.
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