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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,956
    Tim Simmons said:
    My personal rule of thumb is, if someone has more training, study or knowledge on a subject than I do, I generally defer to that experience and am devoid of the ego that maybe I still know better despite my lack of knowledge training or study.
    Bingo!!
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,956
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'll bite. we learn the exact origin. now what. whats next? whats next about arresting the disease or stopping its spread? whats next.
    Who knew and who financed them..
    The Chinese gov't and the Chinese gov't.  Take it away.  Go solve the problem. 
    I've heard and read otherwise..don't tell me you don't..
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,956
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    "we were right from day 1". hahahaha
    Its sad because its true
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'll bite. we learn the exact origin. now what. whats next? whats next about arresting the disease or stopping its spread? whats next.
    Who knew and who financed them..
    The Chinese gov't and the Chinese gov't.  Take it away.  Go solve the problem. 
    I've heard and read otherwise..don't tell me you don't..
    Oh sure I’ve heard stupid people on PJ.com say lots of stupid things. But a lab in China released a flu originating in Chins is usually going to point to China. Occam’s Razor is pretty handy here. 


  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,956
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    Whatever you want to think or say..we were right since day 1..i want to see people in jail, whoever is this..
    but you all talk here for scientist and science and i will ask again..Who determines what is science??..what is scientific??..
    why your scientists are superiors than others??..
    Are you one of those people who still believes that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? I know a couple of people who were still insisting this even after George W. Bush acknowledged that they didn't have them. No matter how much evidence points in the direction of zoonotic origin, you'll insist you were right that it was leaked from a lab, in the absence of any proof to support that theory.
    They told you that the virus was transferred from an animal market... but, but, but 45 minutes away there is a laboratory that studies these viruses..you don't need a proof, it's just common sense..
    and i have post several proofs about the origin, about the vaccines and how was not as effective as they promise, about the ''scientific measures'' they ιmposed..
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,537
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    Whatever you want to think or say..we were right since day 1..i want to see people in jail, whoever is this..
    but you all talk here for scientist and science and i will ask again..Who determines what is science??..what is scientific??..
    why your scientists are superiors than others??..
    Are you one of those people who still believes that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? I know a couple of people who were still insisting this even after George W. Bush acknowledged that they didn't have them. No matter how much evidence points in the direction of zoonotic origin, you'll insist you were right that it was leaked from a lab, in the absence of any proof to support that theory.
    They told you that the virus was transferred from an animal market... but, but, but 45 minutes away there is a laboratory that studies these viruses..you don't need a proof, it's just common sense..
    Thats not how any of this works.

    23scidoo said:

    and i have post several proofs about the origin, about the vaccines and how was not as effective as they promise, about the ''scientific measures'' they imposed..
    orly?

  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    Whatever you want to think or say..we were right since day 1..i want to see people in jail, whoever is this..
    but you all talk here for scientist and science and i will ask again..Who determines what is science??..what is scientific??..
    why your scientists are superiors than others??..
    Are you one of those people who still believes that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? I know a couple of people who were still insisting this even after George W. Bush acknowledged that they didn't have them. No matter how much evidence points in the direction of zoonotic origin, you'll insist you were right that it was leaked from a lab, in the absence of any proof to support that theory.
    They told you that the virus was transferred from an animal market... but, but, but 45 minutes away there is a laboratory that studies these viruses..you don't need a proof, it's just common sense..
    and i have post several proofs about the origin, about the vaccines and how was not as effective as they promise, about the ''scientific measures'' they ιmposed..
    Thanks for telling me out loud what I was kind of able to assume about your deductive reasoning process. There is actually a fair amount of evidence isolating the origin of the virus to that market, and very little evidence pointing to a failure at the Wuhan laboratory. What you're calling "proofs" are surely not that.

    Do you believe that the Sun orbits the Earth? Because it's just common sense, so much so that this was what virtually everyone believed for millennia. The Earth doesn't seem to be moving. Meanwhile, the Sun arcs across the sky. Common sense pointed to one answer, but careful scientific observation eventually led us to the right answer.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    JFC 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JFC 

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    Birds aren’t real and lab leak in chiiiiiiiiiina. ‘Bout right?
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  • brianlux
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    Rather than start another thread, this comes under the heading "viruses":

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    If you’re not watching RFK,Jr.’s confirmation hearing, you should be. Boy are we really fucked if this dolt is confirmed.
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  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If you’re not watching RFK,Jr.’s confirmation hearing, you should be. Boy are we really fucked if this dolt is confirmed.
    How are the GOP senators reacting?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    I know it's a medical thing but RFK sounds like Katherine Hepburn getting grilled 
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  • OnWis97
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    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If you’re not watching RFK,Jr.’s confirmation hearing, you should be. Boy are we really fucked if this dolt is confirmed.
    How are the GOP senators reacting?
    I'm not watching but I assume the cheeto dust on their mouths makes it difficult to tell.

    They confirmed Hegseth. There's no reason to think they would skip anyone else.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If you’re not watching RFK,Jr.’s confirmation hearing, you should be. Boy are we really fucked if this dolt is confirmed.
    How are the GOP senators reacting?
    With kid gloves as they cower and as expected. Thus far anyway.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    LOL...RFK didn't deny believing that the military created Lyme disease. What a fucking fool
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  • Tim Simmons
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    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If you’re not watching RFK,Jr.’s confirmation hearing, you should be. Boy are we really fucked if this dolt is confirmed.
    How are the GOP senators reacting?


    They confirmed Hegseth. 
    Yeah. if that dude got through, everyone else is. Not worth my time. We are so fucked. 

  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,956
    edited January 29
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    Whatever you want to think or say..we were right since day 1..i want to see people in jail, whoever is this..
    but you all talk here for scientist and science and i will ask again..Who determines what is science??..what is scientific??..
    why your scientists are superiors than others??..
    Are you one of those people who still believes that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? I know a couple of people who were still insisting this even after George W. Bush acknowledged that they didn't have them. No matter how much evidence points in the direction of zoonotic origin, you'll insist you were right that it was leaked from a lab, in the absence of any proof to support that theory.
    They told you that the virus was transferred from an animal market... but, but, but 45 minutes away there is a laboratory that studies these viruses..you don't need a proof, it's just common sense..
    and i have post several proofs about the origin, about the vaccines and how was not as effective as they promise, about the ''scientific measures'' they ιmposed..
    Thanks for telling me out loud what I was kind of able to assume about your deductive reasoning process. There is actually a fair amount of evidence isolating the origin of the virus to that market, and very little evidence pointing to a failure at the Wuhan laboratory. What you're calling "proofs" are surely not that.

    Do you believe that the Sun orbits the Earth? Because it's just common sense, so much so that this was what virtually everyone believed for millennia. The Earth doesn't seem to be moving. Meanwhile, the Sun arcs across the sky. Common sense pointed to one answer, but careful scientific observation eventually led us to the right answer.
    Τhanks for the lesson..i didn't knew about the Sun and the Earth thing..wow!!
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Tim Simmons said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If you’re not watching RFK,Jr.’s confirmation hearing, you should be. Boy are we really fucked if this dolt is confirmed.
    How are the GOP senators reacting?


    They confirmed Hegseth. 
    Yeah. if that dude got through, everyone else is. Not worth my time. We are so fucked. 

    lol...yeah a GOP Senator just did the "thanks for making murikkka healthy again" thing and a bunch of sheep applauded
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    Whatever you want to think or say..we were right since day 1..i want to see people in jail, whoever is this..
    but you all talk here for scientist and science and i will ask again..Who determines what is science??..what is scientific??..
    why your scientists are superiors than others??..
    Are you one of those people who still believes that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? I know a couple of people who were still insisting this even after George W. Bush acknowledged that they didn't have them. No matter how much evidence points in the direction of zoonotic origin, you'll insist you were right that it was leaked from a lab, in the absence of any proof to support that theory.
    They told you that the virus was transferred from an animal market... but, but, but 45 minutes away there is a laboratory that studies these viruses..you don't need a proof, it's just common sense..
    and i have post several proofs about the origin, about the vaccines and how was not as effective as they promise, about the ''scientific measures'' they ιmposed..
    Thanks for telling me out loud what I was kind of able to assume about your deductive reasoning process. There is actually a fair amount of evidence isolating the origin of the virus to that market, and very little evidence pointing to a failure at the Wuhan laboratory. What you're calling "proofs" are surely not that.

    Do you believe that the Sun orbits the Earth? Because it's just common sense, so much so that this was what virtually everyone believed for millennia. The Earth doesn't seem to be moving. Meanwhile, the Sun arcs across the sky. Common sense pointed to one answer, but careful scientific observation eventually led us to the right answer.
    Τhanks for the lesson..i didn't knew about the Sun and the Earth thing..wow!!
    It wasn't a lesson about the solar system. Nowhere did I imply that you don't know the orientation of the solar system. The point was to apply your own standard of reasoning to show that it is not sufficient. Your explanation for your belief that the virus was leaked from a lab is that it's common sense. Common sense can lead us to very false conclusions, e.g., geocentrism.


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