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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:

    But it came from lab leak and the vaccines have significant side effects..sadly truth..
    You assert these things as fact despite the fact that there is no credible evidence of either assertion.

    Is it possible that it came from a lab leak? Yes. But the weight of the evidence point to a zoonotic origin. None of the claimed evidence that it came from a lab leak holds up to informed scrutiny. Yet you assert "it came from lab leak" as if that's an established fact. It isn't.

    By the same token, there is no evidence of significant side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. The most serious noted side effect, myocarditis in a subset of the population, occurs with less frequency among vaccine recipients than it does among infected people in the general population. That is not a significant side effect, medically or statistically.
    I'm not going to play this game again..you have your opinion, i have mine..
    but to call someone an idiot because thinks otherwise(not you specific), shows a lot about who you are..
    We're dealing in facts, not opinions.
    but probably only what is convenient for you..
    How is any of this "convenient" for me? I have no vested interest in whether the virus had a zoonotic origin. I have no vested interest in the vaccines being efficacious (I mean, aside from humanity's general interest in the vaccines being efficacious).
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    23scidoo said:
    josevolution said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:

    But it came from lab leak and the vaccines have significant side effects..sadly truth..
    You assert these things as fact despite the fact that there is no credible evidence of either assertion.

    Is it possible that it came from a lab leak? Yes. But the weight of the evidence point to a zoonotic origin. None of the claimed evidence that it came from a lab leak holds up to informed scrutiny. Yet you assert "it came from lab leak" as if that's an established fact. It isn't.

    By the same token, there is no evidence of significant side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. The most serious noted side effect, myocarditis in a subset of the population, occurs with less frequency among vaccine recipients than it does among infected people in the general population. That is not a significant side effect, medically or statistically.
    I'm not going to play this game again..you have your opinion, i have mine..
    but to call someone an idiot because thinks otherwise(not you specific), shows a lot about who you are..
    We're dealing in facts, not opinions.
    but probably only what is convenient for you..
    So facts are only facts if you believe them? It’s a fact I’m 5’ 6” tall but I believe I’m 6’ Uhmm 
    Εχactly!!..i believe i'm pretty as Prad Pitt, am i??..
    Beauty is subjective. It is literally in the eye of the beholder. Whether the virus had or did not have a zoonotic origin is a provable fact. Whether the vaccines have or do not have significant side effects is a provable fact.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372
    23scidoo said:
    josevolution said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:

    But it came from lab leak and the vaccines have significant side effects..sadly truth..
    You assert these things as fact despite the fact that there is no credible evidence of either assertion.

    Is it possible that it came from a lab leak? Yes. But the weight of the evidence point to a zoonotic origin. None of the claimed evidence that it came from a lab leak holds up to informed scrutiny. Yet you assert "it came from lab leak" as if that's an established fact. It isn't.

    By the same token, there is no evidence of significant side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. The most serious noted side effect, myocarditis in a subset of the population, occurs with less frequency among vaccine recipients than it does among infected people in the general population. That is not a significant side effect, medically or statistically.
    I'm not going to play this game again..you have your opinion, i have mine..
    but to call someone an idiot because thinks otherwise(not you specific), shows a lot about who you are..
    We're dealing in facts, not opinions.
    but probably only what is convenient for you..
    So facts are only facts if you believe them? It’s a fact I’m 5’ 6” tall but I believe I’m 6’ Uhmm 
    Εχactly!!..i believe i'm pretty as Prad Pitt, am i??..

    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    who the fuck is Prad Pitt?
    Brad Pitt's disfigured younger brother.


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:

    But it came from lab leak and the vaccines have significant side effects..sadly truth..
    You assert these things as fact despite the fact that there is no credible evidence of either assertion.

    Is it possible that it came from a lab leak? Yes. But the weight of the evidence point to a zoonotic origin. None of the claimed evidence that it came from a lab leak holds up to informed scrutiny. Yet you assert "it came from lab leak" as if that's an established fact. It isn't.

    By the same token, there is no evidence of significant side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. The most serious noted side effect, myocarditis in a subset of the population, occurs with less frequency among vaccine recipients than it does among infected people in the general population. That is not a significant side effect, medically or statistically.
    I'm not going to play this game again..you have your opinion, i have mine..
    but to call someone an idiot because thinks otherwise(not you specific), shows a lot about who you are..
    We're dealing in facts, not opinions.
    but probably only what is convenient for you..
    How is any of this "convenient" for me? I have no vested interest in whether the virus had a zoonotic origin. I have no vested interest in the vaccines being efficacious (I mean, aside from humanity's general interest in the vaccines being efficacious).
    Dude, serious? You are rooting for medicines to work? What a commie!  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    mrussel1 said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:
    BF25394 said:
    23scidoo said:

    But it came from lab leak and the vaccines have significant side effects..sadly truth..
    You assert these things as fact despite the fact that there is no credible evidence of either assertion.

    Is it possible that it came from a lab leak? Yes. But the weight of the evidence point to a zoonotic origin. None of the claimed evidence that it came from a lab leak holds up to informed scrutiny. Yet you assert "it came from lab leak" as if that's an established fact. It isn't.

    By the same token, there is no evidence of significant side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. The most serious noted side effect, myocarditis in a subset of the population, occurs with less frequency among vaccine recipients than it does among infected people in the general population. That is not a significant side effect, medically or statistically.
    I'm not going to play this game again..you have your opinion, i have mine..
    but to call someone an idiot because thinks otherwise(not you specific), shows a lot about who you are..
    We're dealing in facts, not opinions.
    but probably only what is convenient for you..
    How is any of this "convenient" for me? I have no vested interest in whether the virus had a zoonotic origin. I have no vested interest in the vaccines being efficacious (I mean, aside from humanity's general interest in the vaccines being efficacious).
    Dude, serious? You are rooting for medicines to work? What a commie!  
    It probably does seem a bit inconsistent with my standard "people are the worst" philosophy. I stand by that philosophy, but I don't wish for anyone to suffer. No man is an island.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    JFC
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    edited January 17
    mickeyrat said:


    Sounds like more than 0% chance of another pandemic, but what do I know? 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,892
    This happens every year with bird flu


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    lastexitlondon said:
    This happens every year with bird flu
    sort of, but it's never been this widespread in the states before:

    https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/php/avian-flu-summary/chart-epi-curve-ah5n1.html
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,892
    Norovirus is rife here also


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    My brother in law’s wife has Norovius they live in San Francisco 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    lastexitlondon said:
    Norovirus is rife here also
    I remember when the only way you could get norovirus was to eat at Chipotle.

    (I kid, I kid. I love Chipotle. But there was an outbreak there several years back.)
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372



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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14

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