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shecky said:Facts are facts.
I don't know if you live in California or not, but I do. And I witness the incompetence of our government officials on a daily basis.
Currently, five people have needlessly died, and over 1,000 structures (primarily homes) have been destroyed due to this incompetence.
So I'm very sorry, but just because you begin a thread does not give you the authority to censor other members' opinions. Good evening.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Gern Blansten said:shecky said:Facts are facts.
I don't know if you live in California or not, but I do. And I witness the incompetence of our government officials on a daily basis.
Currently, five people have needlessly died, and over 1,000 structures (primarily homes) have been destroyed due to this incompetence.
So I'm very sorry, but just because you begin a thread does not give you the authority to censor other members' opinions. Good evening.
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lol...he'll say something about forest management but that will ignore the millions of dollars in cost that he doesn't want to pay via taxesRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
I do wonder what Trump will say when he takes office. “You know, the democrats started the fire, but once the fire starts, it’s very difficult - very difficult to put it out. Much like your grocery bills that will remain the same during my regime, I mean presidency. All democrats.”'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
As an aside, I’m so fucking tired of everything being relayed back to politics. Can people not just be decent and concerned for each other?'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
He couldn't do any worse than the current leadership in LA/ California. Pitiful. My city's burning....better go to Ghana0
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I don’t think we’ll get further context or clarification from certain posters here, so I’ll post this.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/08/wildfire-threatens-karen-bass-extended-honeymoon-00197228I’ve seen both far left and far right posting this (the former taking grievance over the police budget increasing and the latter attacking the democratic mayor over this despite being oblivious to the fact that their side continually advocates for lEsS gOvErNmEnT), so this is great context for the continuing misinformation.A real eye opener how social media has rotted brains on both sides.0 -
For those here that can't separate natural disasters from politics...Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
benjs said:As an aside, I’m so fucking tired of everything being relayed back to politics. Can people not just be decent and concerned for each other?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
It’s also important to remember, it’s not really about the details of the politics with these types posting this stuff, it’s about the revenge and the dunking and spite.0
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Gern Blansten said:benjs said:As an aside, I’m so fucking tired of everything being relayed back to politics. Can people not just be decent and concerned for each other?'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
my TikTok feed is full of magats flexing right now. There was some weird thing on the left similar to the "stay the course" bullshit from four years ago that suggested trump wouldn't make it due to election fraud or something. I don't think any of us radical communist lefties posted one fucking thing about that here.
Regardless...they are all flexing right now and completely forgetting that they did the same shit x100 four years ago. Plus the Jan 6th attack on the capitol.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
shecky said:Hey @shecky I guess republicans are now smarter than AI. What a great party and president when you can reinvent the truth to fool Americans to vote for you!
..No, forest management alone is not enough to solve California's wildfires:Ecosystem imbalance- Climate changeWildfires are driven by climate and weather, and forest management can't address those factors.
- Decades of management practices, such as suppressing wildfires and expanding human development into wildlands, have created an imbalance between ecosystems and wildfires.
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Tim Simmons said:I don’t think we’ll get further context or clarification from certain posters here, so I’ll post this.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/08/wildfire-threatens-karen-bass-extended-honeymoon-00197228I’ve seen both far left and far right posting this (the former taking grievance over the police budget increasing and the latter attacking the democratic mayor over this despite being oblivious to the fact that their side continually advocates for lEsS gOvErNmEnT), so this is great context for the continuing misinformation.A real eye opener how social media has rotted brains on both sides.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-ends-fact-checking-program-community-notes-x-rcna1864680 -
benjs said:As an aside, I’m so fucking tired of everything being relayed back to politics. Can people not just be decent and concerned for each other?This is a political forum and a republican voter engaged this community with absurd accusations, and now it’s another both sides wrong problem?
It’s tremendously sad watching the news from California, but if we can’t engage independents during a climate tragedy, when can we?We couldnt in NC, lost votes to those believing Biden spent the hurricane relief money on migrants and directing the hurricane towards republican voters, and as a result , we get more Trump and maybe Canada and Greenland.It wasn’t even close to being discussed during the recent campaign, because republicans are the master of making something absurd appear true..as their economic and environmental policies are destroying the planet, into a “both sides wrong” argument and the gop wins and convinces the likely new Canada PM to start mining more of their dirtiest oil on earth for us.
Go ahead and vote out Trudeau, your economy is terrific and you couldn’t be helped by US, and drill more of that dirty oil. Great work from a country friendly to the earth!
Biden passed a historic renewable energy bill, and now as a result of republican lying his VP lost, and it will likely be canceled by the incoming administration. Good thing we can’t discuss this when it matters most. Don’t want to insult the voters. Let the next tragedy keep happening,
@shecky came on here making absurd political accusations about what causes wildfires and dems can’t even point out it’s absurd0 -
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& it's going to get even worse.Tim Simmons said:I don’t think we’ll get further context or clarification from certain posters here, so I’ll post this.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/08/wildfire-threatens-karen-bass-extended-honeymoon-00197228I’ve seen both far left and far right posting this (the former taking grievance over the police budget increasing and the latter attacking the democratic mayor over this despite being oblivious to the fact that their side continually advocates for lEsS gOvErNmEnT), so this is great context for the continuing misinformation.A real eye opener how social media has rotted brains on both sides.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-ends-fact-checking-program-community-notes-x-rcna186468
I mean, we should be able to have a little bit of genocide…Post edited by Tim Simmons on0 -
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and the insane narrative that this was the fault of newsome et al by some quarters is fiction within fiction from the minds of the grifter in chief...._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:and the insane narrative that this was the fault of newsome et al by some quarters is fiction within fiction from the minds of the grifter in chief....mickeyrat said:and the insane narrative that this was the fault of newsome et al by some quarters is fiction within fiction from the minds of the grifter in chief....Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Was it climate change that gave firefighting equipment away to Ukraine? Did climate change not fill the reservoirs? What about diverting water to save a fish called smelt? Did climate change terminate good firefighters for not getting the jab? Did climate change cut $20 million from the firefighting budget? The list could go on and on, but this definitely has nothing to do with climate change.
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Choccoloccotide said:Was it climate change that gave firefighting equipment away to Ukraine? Did climate change not fill the reservoirs? What about diverting water to save a fish called smelt? Did climate change terminate good firefighters for not getting the jab? Did climate change cut $20 million from the firefighting budget? The list could go on and on, but this definitely has nothing to do with climate change.
source citations from the assertions you are repeating.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mickeyrat said:Choccoloccotide said:Was it climate change that gave firefighting equipment away to Ukraine? Did climate change not fill the reservoirs? What about diverting water to save a fish called smelt? Did climate change terminate good firefighters for not getting the jab? Did climate change cut $20 million from the firefighting budget? The list could go on and on, but this definitely has nothing to do with climate change.
source citations from the assertions you are repeating.0 -
mickeyrat said:and the insane narrative that this was the fault of newsome et al by some quarters is fiction within fiction from the minds of the grifter in chief....
We will be seeing constant smears on Governor Newsom because of the coming 2028 elections; they believe he'll be running. It's pathetic that the tragedy is being used politically while people are suffering and dying. We'll be able to offer financial support to help people get back on their feet now and after this is over.
Let's remember how it's supposed to be, Americans helping each other during times of trouble.
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Lerxst1992 said:benjs said:As an aside, I’m so fucking tired of everything being relayed back to politics. Can people not just be decent and concerned for each other?This is a political forum and a republican voter engaged this community with absurd accusations, and now it’s another both sides wrong problem?
It’s tremendously sad watching the news from California, but if we can’t engage independents during a climate tragedy, when can we?We couldnt in NC, lost votes to those believing Biden spent the hurricane relief money on migrants and directing the hurricane towards republican voters, and as a result , we get more Trump and maybe Canada and Greenland.It wasn’t even close to being discussed during the recent campaign, because republicans are the master of making something absurd appear true..as their economic and environmental policies are destroying the planet, into a “both sides wrong” argument and the gop wins and convinces the likely new Canada PM to start mining more of their dirtiest oil on earth for us.
Go ahead and vote out Trudeau, your economy is terrific and you couldn’t be helped by US, and drill more of that dirty oil. Great work from a country friendly to the earth!
Biden passed a historic renewable energy bill, and now as a result of republican lying his VP lost, and it will likely be canceled by the incoming administration. Good thing we can’t discuss this when it matters most. Don’t want to insult the voters. Let the next tragedy keep happening,
@shecky came on here making absurd political accusations about what causes wildfires and dems can’t even point out it’s absurd0 -
Choccoloccotide said:Was it climate change that gave firefighting equipment away to Ukraine? Did climate change not fill the reservoirs? What about diverting water to save a fish called smelt? Did climate change terminate good firefighters for not getting the jab? Did climate change cut $20 million from the firefighting budget? The list could go on and on, but this definitely has nothing to do with climate change.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Timeout while people get their heads in a better place. We're in the middle of a tragedy. Take the hate somewhere else.
LA TimesCaliforniaTiny burning embers flew miles, causing L.A. fire destruction on historic scaleBy Grace Toohey, Alex Wigglesworth and Rong-Gong Lin IIJan. 9, 2025 3 AM PTSanta Ana winds are infamous for driving fast-moving fires in Southern California, pushing embers well beyond a blaze’s boundary and into neighborhoods and across major roadways.But officials say the winds that fueled devastating fires in three parts of Los Angeles County were much more erratic and unpredictable than a typical dry offshore wind pattern — and struck areas unaccustomed to such events.Altadena, CA - January 08: Fire fighters work a fire during Eaton fire on Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2025 in Altadena, CA. (Jason Armond / Los Angeles Times)CaliforniaFirefighters continue to battle blazes as L.A. braces for more days of fire weatherThe life-threatening windstorm that prompted several days of dire warnings exploded into a crisis even worse than firefighters predicted, with embers flying an estimated two to three miles ahead of the established fire and in every direction.VIDEO | 02:51How untypical Santa Ana winds have made firefighting so much harderThe extraordinary winds have created extreme fire behavior almost impossible to anticipate, confounding efforts to establish secure containment lines or utilize firefighting aircraft. They have also led to major structure losses, widespread evacuations and ongoing destruction.“Normally, under a sustained Santa Ana condition, we have fires that are long and narrow,” said Anthony Marrone, Los Angeles County Fire Chief. “However, with these erratic winds and this PDS, or particularly dangerous situation, the winds were constantly changing.”On top of typical long-range spotting during such an offshore wind event, ember casts were flying in several directions, sometimes switching course throughout the day, Marrone said. As much as the major wildfires were spreading seaward — as is typical during Santa Anas — the blazes were growing laterally, he said.“This was just different,” Marrone said.The Palisades fire, which sparked early Tuesday, has destroyed more than 1,000 structures in Pacific Palisades and has surged to more than 15,000 acres as of Wednesday afternoon. The Eaton fire sparked later in the day, but spread rapidly through Altadena and Pasadena, destroying at least 100 buildings as it exploded to over 10,000 acres. At least five people have died in the Eaton fire.ALTADENA, CA - JANUARY 8, 2025:A wind gust sends burning embers into the air fueling the Eaton after midnight as multiple homes burn on Wooldlyn Road on January 8, 2025 in Altadena, California. (Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times)CaliforniaOne of the most destructive firestorms in L.A. history kills 5, burns 2,000 buildingsJan. 9, 2025In Sylmar, the Hurst fire has grown to 700 acres.More than 65,000 people are under evacuation orders because of the three fires, and thousands more have been warned they could be next. All three fires have no containment, per fire officials.“This wildfire was the most chaotic winds I’ve experienced in 20 years,” Capt. Erik Scott, a Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson, said of the Palisades blaze. He said the 2018 Woolsey fire — which burned almost 100,000 acres in southeast Ventura County and Malibu, destroying 1,500 structures and killing three people — was the only fire in Southern California that saw winds anywhere close to those this week.
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