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  • My stupid ass would fathom that of known avian flu cases in humans outside the US with a death rate of 50% is something to be concerned about but that’s just me. Don’t worry, RFK, Jr. will recommend unpasteurized milk and crushed bear bone powder as an elixir. Everything will be fine. No worries because it’ll be gone by Easter anyways.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This thread has more fear-mongering clickbait than Fox and CNN combined. 

    new one emerged the other day in china. h3n3. I had yet to hear of that one.

    h5n1 here is a new one to my ear. being found in herds of dairy cows and in produced milk. the fact its jumped to humans already is certainly cause for concern.

    but do tell, what have I posted or said about what folks should or shouldnt do in light of this real news?
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  • mickeyrat
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,074

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,890
    God I just haven't the strength for another pandemic 


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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    cdc on bitd flu's generally. do note this doesnt cover H1 or H3 that I saw in this article. H1 circulating here infecting dairy herds and found in milk supplies and H3 reportedly newly emerged in China infecting humans.

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    tbergs said:
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
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  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    tbergs said:
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.
    My rights don’t end where your fear begins.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    edited January 4
    tbergs said:
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.
    My rights don’t end where your fear begins.

    unless you work in direct patient health-care, are in the military(read the enlistment contract fine print on vax) and a few other professions, where were/are you rights being impinged?
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    mickeyrat said:
    tbergs said:
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.
    My rights don’t end where your fear begins.

    unless you work in direct patient health-care, are in the military(read the enlistment contract fine print on vax) and a few other professions, where were/are you rights being impinged?
    It’s not even a vaccine.  It’s a therapeutic, and a horrible one at that.
  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    Here’s a report on COVID vax deaths and side effects.  How many would have still got the jab if they knew this information? 

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    We've had that discussion multiple tomes here.

    I have found @curmudgeoness to be most helpful on the topic.

    scroll back through or use advanced search to find those responses.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409



  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    tbergs said:
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.
    My rights don’t end where your fear begins.
    Sure they can. Look up the general legal definition of assault. Not to mention any number of other areas of the law where an individual's rights are limited in the same respect.

    And anyway, we all have rights that we voluntarily curtail because we recognize that we live in a society and that other people are deserving of respect. At least those of us who aren't sociopaths behave this way.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    If a pandemic happens again during this generation, the death toll will be 10x what is was from Covid, at least in America because 74+ million people are going to be my body, my choice, at least when it comes to vaccinations. It will take 80+ years for the majority of people to objectively and openly consider public health measures that benefit all.

    Some generations were considered the greatest, ours, the disillusioned.
    My rights don’t end where your fear begins.
    Sure they can. Look up the general legal definition of assault. Not to mention any number of other areas of the law where an individual's rights are limited in the same respect.

    And anyway, we all have rights that we voluntarily curtail because we recognize that we live in a society and that other people are deserving of respect. At least those of us who aren't sociopaths behave this way.


    great point.  so now I have to ask how mr choccomaga felt/feels about the restrictions put in place post 9-11.....
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    if 9/11 happened today it would be magas screaming about their "right" to take open water bottles on a plane and not taking off their shoes. 
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