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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
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    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    How about posting a link rather than keeping people guessing or being wise-ass when you’re the one that was vague. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    edited December 2024
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    How about posting a link rather than keeping people guessing or being wise-ass when you’re the one that was vague. 
    He posted a link previously to a blogger who had previously been invited to be a guest on faux to discuss Covid but then was found to have misinterpreted and cherry picked Covid data to skew his narrative. He writes spy novels and while he worked as a journalist, he doesn’t have a background in infectious diseases, medicine or immunology. Oh, and his or the blog is called, “UnReported Truths.”

    Consider the source.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    How about posting a link rather than keeping people guessing or being wise-ass when you’re the one that was vague. 
    He posted a link previously to a blogger who had previously been invited to be a guest on faux to discuss Covid but then was found to have misinterpreted and cherry picked Covid data to skew his narrative. He writes spy novels and while he worked as a journalist, he doesn’t have a background in infectious diseases, medicine or immunology. Oh, and his or the blog is called, “Untold Truths.”

    Consider the source.
    Sadly, I have no idea if this is a joke or serious.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    How about posting a link rather than keeping people guessing or being wise-ass when you’re the one that was vague. 
    He posted a link previously to a blogger who had previously been invited to be a guest on faux to discuss Covid but then was found to have misinterpreted and cherry picked Covid data to skew his narrative. He writes spy novels and while he worked as a journalist, he doesn’t have a background in infectious diseases, medicine or immunology. Oh, and his or the blog is called, “Untold Truths.”

    Consider the source.
    Sadly, I have no idea if this is a joke or serious.  
    Scroll back through the thread. It’s not too far back but you’ll never get the time back.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    You're fucking kidding with this, right?  If it's the "blog" post you're referencing, did you even absorb the fact that there is no cited information for your conclusion?  The source is..

    The researchers have reported finding spike protein on conference calls with participants in their study in October and again this week. Two people independently told Unreported Truths of the study’s findings.

    You are drawing personal conclusions and sharing them with us based on two "independent" sources that are not even named, completely ignoring that later in the blog this guy admits that the paper is currently in unreviewed "pre-print", meaning the writer of this blog has no idea what the research says.  

    Come back here with real information. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    You're fucking kidding with this, right?  If it's the "blog" post you're referencing, did you even absorb the fact that there is no cited information for your conclusion?  The source is..

    The researchers have reported finding spike protein on conference calls with participants in their study in October and again this week. Two people independently told Unreported Truths of the study’s findings.

    You are drawing personal conclusions and sharing them with us based on two "independent" sources that are not even named, completely ignoring that later in the blog this guy admits that the paper is currently in unreviewed "pre-print", meaning the writer of this blog has no idea what the research says.  

    Come back here with real information. 
    Do your own research.
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  • BF25394
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    mrussel1 said:

     But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  

    It is also moronic because, as I mentioned earlier, mRNA is a fundamental part of human biology. Calling it "poison" reminds me of the people who say they don't eat sugar because it's "poison," without realizing that their body will metabolize food into glucose, without which they would go into a coma.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    A great reminder that attacks on the public education system from the right in this country are purposeful to keep or make many people stupid.

  • Bentleyspop
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    A great reminder that attacks on the public education system from the right in this country are purposeful to keep or make many people stupid.


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  • Merkin Baller
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    edited December 2024

    It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235

    It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
    By advice of doctors you mean his refusal to take a therapeutic, not a vaccine, means he should die?  Got it.

  • It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
    By advice of doctors you mean his refusal to take a therapeutic, not a vaccine, means he should die?  Got it.
    Did they bury him in his "UNMASKED UNMUZZLED UNVACCINATED" t-shirt? 
  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235

    It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
    By advice of doctors you mean his refusal to take a therapeutic, not a vaccine, means he should die?  Got it.
    Did they bury him in his "UNMASKED UNMUZZLED UNVACCINATED" t-shirt? 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
    By advice of doctors you mean his refusal to take a therapeutic, not a vaccine, means he should die?  Got it.
    Did they bury him in his "UNMASKED UNMUZZLED UNVACCINATED" t-shirt? 
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    You may not understand the meaning of "evil".  

  • It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
    By advice of doctors you mean his refusal to take a therapeutic, not a vaccine, means he should die?  Got it.
    Did they bury him in his "UNMASKED UNMUZZLED UNVACCINATED" t-shirt? 
    Evil personified right here ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
    Your opinion means fuck all to me. 
  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235

    It's not actually, t's pragmatic and practical.

    Why waste a valuable organ on someone who doesn't listen to the advice of doctors? 
    By advice of doctors you mean his refusal to take a therapeutic, not a vaccine, means he should die?  Got it.
    Did they bury him in his "UNMASKED UNMUZZLED UNVACCINATED" t-shirt? 
    Evil personified right here ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
    Your opinion means fuck all to me. 
    Same here baller lol