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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    So stupid. You let your politics influence your medical choices. Let’s play this out. 

    Human trials start next year that enable the heart to regrow muscle after a heart attack. The death of heart muscle is what leads to heart failure. MRNA technology has been used to successfully regrow this, making an unhealthy heart that of a 35 year old again. But you would just pass on that. Great thinking. 
    Yep great strides I’m lucky that my heart wasn’t damaged when I had my heart attack if it was I’d definitely would look into this! 
    You’re very lucky if you didn’t lose tissue. Take care of yourself. 
    I do and yes very lucky 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
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  • BF25394
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    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
    Yes, but there were also non-mRNA options.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
    I think only one of the three approved vaccines in the US were mRNA if I’m not mistaken. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
    I think only one of the three approved vaccines in the US were mRNA if I’m not mistaken. 

    well 2. modernas and pfizers. the j&j was the traditional type proven not as effective.
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  • BF25394
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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
    I think only one of the three approved vaccines in the US were mRNA if I’m not mistaken. 

    well 2. modernas and pfizers. the j&j was the traditional type proven not as effective.
    Novavax is non-mRNA and also available now (though not in 2021).
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    BF25394 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
    I think only one of the three approved vaccines in the US were mRNA if I’m not mistaken. 

    well 2. modernas and pfizers. the j&j was the traditional type proven not as effective.
    Novavax is non-mRNA and also available now (though not in 2021).

    right, his statement reflected past tense and I recall FDA pulled approval for J&J since....
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  • mrussel1
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    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BF25394 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    mRNA is not poison. It exists in your body and allows you to synthesize proteins. And neither the current government-- by which I assume you mean the Biden administration-- nor the prior government told you you "had to" receive an mRNA vaccine.

    just the military. which is a requirement to maintaon force readiness. Washington "innoculated" his troops with live small pox, an unproven untested theory that proved the right course  of action.
    and healthcare workers. which given their position and proximity to people with the virus helped protect them and their families.


    we weren't required to at my work, but I got it the first I was eligible.  stopping in random truck stops to use bathroom or get coffee with upwards of 100 trucks on the lot when I pulled in meant there was a good chance the virus was present. at times across the country drivers were sick and isolated in their trucks and some died.
    I think only one of the three approved vaccines in the US were mRNA if I’m not mistaken. 

    well 2. modernas and pfizers. the j&j was the traditional type proven not as effective.
    Novavax is non-mRNA and also available now (though not in 2021).

    right, his statement reflected past tense and I recall FDA pulled approval for J&J since....
    Yes of course the irony of this argument is the non-mRNA gets pulled. 
  • Choccoloccotide
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  • Yay! Stroke the AR.
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  • Choccoloccotide
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    Yay! Stroke the AR.
    The WHO was an active participant in the cover up of the origins of Covid, and for this fact alone we should not support this organization.  



  • Yay! Stroke the AR.
    The WHO was an active participant in the cover up of the origins of Covid, and for this fact alone we should not support this organization.  
    “Active coverup.” Sure, right along side the Hillary and Obama indictments. Did you see Andy No’s reporting on this topic?
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  • Choccoloccotide
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    Yay! Stroke the AR.
    The WHO was an active participant in the cover up of the origins of Covid, and for this fact alone we should not support this organization.  
    “Active coverup.” Sure, right along side the Hillary and Obama indictments. Did you see Andy No’s reporting on this topic?
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00283-y
  • The WHO is corrupt like everything else. We as people can't do a damn thing about it. All we can do is use our brains and make as best decision we can on any medical issues . It's sad but money wins in every situation 


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  • mrussel1
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    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
  • mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

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  • mrussel1
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    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.
  • Indifference
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    edited December 2024
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:



    Just be sure you never use any treatments with mRNA.  You'll be like the Amish, where they think God got it exactly right in 1870.  You believe medicine achieved perfection in 2016, no need to advance any further.  It's just "poison" from here on out. 
    The recent Yale study on mRNA makes me question a lot of things.  Its ok to have an open mind.

    I presume you mean this study, right?  https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

    The one that showed the cause of the myocarditis was more prevalent in those that actually had COVID vs those that received the vaccine, and that the researchers believe it isn't the vaccine, rather the way the body actually responds to COVID as the cause..  

    Every treatment, medicine, etc. that we have has side effects for a small percentage of the population.  This isn't new.  And no one is saying additional research is always needed, which is why many of us actually support gov't funding of research.  But to totally discount mRNA and saying he would never put that "poison" in his body, based on his political beliefs, is beyond moronic.  


    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), among males aged 12 to 17, about 22 to 36 per 100,000 experienced myocarditis within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose. The incidence of myocarditis was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus among males in this age group.

    recent isn't almost 2 years ago

    The Covid spike protein was found in the blood of people up to two years after they received the Covid mRNA injection, a team of scientists at Yale University have found.

    The individuals in the study were never infected with Covid, antibody tests show. The immune system normally rapidly destroy newly produced spike proteins. The finding suggests some people who took the shots may be making the proteins on their own.



    So the antibodies will show up forever on these tests? I thought they’re only detectable as long as the immunity lasts
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