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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    BF25394 said:
    Lockdowns saved the medical system from complete collapse. There is no debate about that. Masking and social distancing were measures taken with the info we had at the time. Something is always better than nothing. 

    I guess magats just prefer to sneeze in someone’s face at will. 
    Ironically, the only true lockdowns in the U.S. were at nursing homes, and they were a disaster for the health and safety of the people living in them. Everyone else was free to leave their homes.

    There were many smart public-health measures adopted by state and local governments, as well as the federal government and private businesses, that helped mitigate the spread, but we've got to get away from referring to them as "lockdowns." That's not what they were.
    Correct. I guess I just use that term liberally when just referring to restrictions. 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

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  • No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

    Thats almost 4 years ago. Things change

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  • No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

    Thats almost 4 years ago. Things change
    Once a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer, always a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer. What, specifically, has changed in 4 years?
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  • No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

    Thats almost 4 years ago. Things change
    Once a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer, always a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer. What, specifically, has changed in 4 years?
    No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

    Thats almost 4 years ago. Things change
    Once a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer, always a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer. What, specifically, has changed in 4 years?
    Read the article.

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  • No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

    Thats almost 4 years ago. Things change
    Once a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer, always a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer. What, specifically, has changed in 4 years?
    No thanks.

    The Pandemic’s Wrongest Man

    In a crowded field of wrongness, one person stands out: Alex Berenson.

    Updated at 1:56 p.m. on April 1, 2021.

    The pandemic has made fools of many forecasters. Just about all of the predictions whiffed. Anthony Fauci was wrong about masks. California was wrong about the outdoors. New York was wrong about the subways. I was wrong about the necessary cost of pandemic relief. And the Trump White House was wrong about almost everything else.

    In this crowded field of wrongness, one voice stands out. The voice of Alex Berenson: the former New York Times reporter, Yale-educated novelist, avid tweeter, online essayist, and all-around pandemic gadfly. Berenson has been serving up COVID-19 hot takes for the past year, blithely predicting that the United States would not reach 500,000 deaths (we’ve surpassed 550,000) and arguing that cloth and surgical masks can’t protect against the coronavirus (yestheycan).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

    Thats almost 4 years ago. Things change
    Once a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer, always a Covid vaccine anti-vaxer. What, specifically, has changed in 4 years?
    Read the article.
    I did. The author doesn’t appear to be qualified to report on the content, particularly as his previous conclusions that he drew were debunked.

    Consider the source.
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  • Russia claim
     To have an mRNA cancer vaccine now.


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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,537
    Would be great if they did. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    edited December 2024
    feels like a ploy to get out from under sanctions though.
    vaguely recall reading recently pancreatic cancer being altered or something through mrna at a school here....


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  • If it gives hope that's what we need. 


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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,537
    mRNA is gonna lead to so many medical breakthroughs. My fear is RFK is gonna set us back a decade after jumping ahead one because of covid.

  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
  • I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    If you had terminal cancer I beg to differ. If you still wouldn't then Darwin was correct with you.


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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,537
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    ok!
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    So stupid. You let your politics influence your medical choices. Let’s play this out. 

    Human trials start next year that enable the heart to regrow muscle after a heart attack. The death of heart muscle is what leads to heart failure. MRNA technology has been used to successfully regrow this, making an unhealthy heart that of a 35 year old again. But you would just pass on that. Great thinking. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    mrussel1 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    So stupid. You let your politics influence your medical choices. Let’s play this out. 

    Human trials start next year that enable the heart to regrow muscle after a heart attack. The death of heart muscle is what leads to heart failure. MRNA technology has been used to successfully regrow this, making an unhealthy heart that of a 35 year old again. But you would just pass on that. Great thinking. 
    Yep great strides I’m lucky that my heart wasn’t damaged when I had my heart attack if it was I’d definitely would look into this! 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    I’ll never inject any mRNA poison in my body, especially if the current govt tells me I have to.  F them.
    So stupid. You let your politics influence your medical choices. Let’s play this out. 

    Human trials start next year that enable the heart to regrow muscle after a heart attack. The death of heart muscle is what leads to heart failure. MRNA technology has been used to successfully regrow this, making an unhealthy heart that of a 35 year old again. But you would just pass on that. Great thinking. 
    Yep great strides I’m lucky that my heart wasn’t damaged when I had my heart attack if it was I’d definitely would look into this! 
    You’re very lucky if you didn’t lose tissue. Take care of yourself.