Ed is the antidote to toxic masculinity the world needs right now

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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    Shaindli1 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Plus I don’t think he was body shaming anyone. A women was flashing him and he told her to stop pretty directly. Something about mosquito bites.
    He shamed and humiliated the woman when he could just ignore her.
    It was 21 years ago and she could have kept her shirt down to. I think not their both best moments. It was funny though. 
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    Douglas12373 said:
    Haijay said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    We are absolutely drowning in toxic masculinity and machismo. It's on our screens 24/7 and comes at us in all forms (ultra patriarchy, homophobia, rampant transphobia etc).

    This is why I appreciate what Ed (and the rest of the band) stands for. He always despised machismo. He encourages men to remain in touch with their emotions, as nebulous and as conflicting as they often are. He has shed tears in public numerous times, opened up about his own struggles with grief. He advocates kindness, solidarity and acceptance. 

    This needs to be said. I hope he realizes the positive impact he has.
    I think we’re drowning in toxic FEMININITY,  if anything

    Not if you live in America you are not. Or based on my knowledge of humans, anywhere else
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Plus I don’t think he was body shaming anyone. A women was flashing him and he told her to stop pretty directly. Something about mosquito bites.
    He shamed and humiliated the woman when he could just ignore her.
    It was 21 years ago and she could have kept her shirt down to. I think not they’re both best moments. It was funny though. 
    Totally agree.  Was really cringy.  Definitely the worst non festival show I ve ever seen.  
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  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    I saw that type of stuff when I saw Papa Roach in Dallas.  The camera crew went and zoomed and posted her on the big screen.  Everyone cheered, she was all smiles.  I guess there's a crowd for it :i_dunno:  Pearl Jam is def not the crowd.
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  • marumaruko
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    I love how much the band speaks out against toxic masculinity and fights for women's rights.

    But I think in order to move past the toxic masculinity, we need to finally convince males that it's ok to seek help and talk openly about feelings and be vulnerable. This will lower male suicide numbers (the good guys) and reduce violence and oppression against women, as well. Perhaps that is a better approach
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  • lastexitlondon
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    Men who are nurtured by a mother, 
    Men who have a dad in their life.
    Men who have daughters.
    All great for respecting women.


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  • rb173565
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    I'm not sure if this is the most hypocritical thread I've read in a while. A few comments in the OP laments body shaming calling it shameful but at the same time bemoaning toxic masculinity. 
    Quick question, what EXACTLY do you define as toxic masculinity? Are all males toxic? Labelling us all as toxic IS absolutely shameful. Maybe, instead of tarring us all with a particular brush you could aim your barbs at those who deserve it. 
    For example, those men in Afghanistan, who, immediately after the U.S. made a deal with terrorists stopped women being educated and began their regimen of female oppression. Maybe the Iranian men too who murder women for not covering their hair to name but two.
    There are plenty of what I would call  'embarrassments' to men. It's just a shame that there are equivalent women. 
    Maybe, just maybe we can all do better.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    rb173565 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the most hypocritical thread I've read in a while. A few comments in the OP laments body shaming calling it shameful but at the same time bemoaning toxic masculinity. 
    Quick question, what EXACTLY do you define as toxic masculinity? Are all males toxic? Labelling us all as toxic IS absolutely shameful. Maybe, instead of tarring us all with a particular brush you could aim your barbs at those who deserve it. 
    For example, those men in Afghanistan, who, immediately after the U.S. made a deal with terrorists stopped women being educated and began their regimen of female oppression. Maybe the Iranian men too who murder women for not covering their hair to name but two.
    There are plenty of what I would call  'embarrassments' to men. It's just a shame that there are equivalent women. 
    Maybe, just maybe we can all do better.
    Toxic masculinity is not being content with the 1:00 games and needing to watch the 4:00 games
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    Don't even get me started on the Thursday night game and ultra patriarchy 
  • rb173565
    rb173565 Posts: 117
    As someone who doesn't watch sport that comment's a bit lost on me though why watching something you enjoy is toxic is beyond me. Gay, maybe? 
    I mean, sweaty athletic men in shorts running around a field who indulge in a homoerotic orgy of celebration when they score a goal/point/basket isn't toxic but is definitely a bit gay . 😁
  • rb173565
    rb173565 Posts: 117
    And again, ultra patriarchy? What do you mean by that ECACTLY? 
  • on2legs
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    Why is this thread on the porch?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,205
    pjl44 said:
    Flag on the field. We've got an 80% AMT post on The Porch.


    lol
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  • URthekey
    URthekey Posts: 1,912
    OP is so right.
    World needs more men in silver stack heeled boots not afraid to lovingly hold another dude.


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    edited December 2024
    pjl44 said:
    rb173565 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the most hypocritical thread I've read in a while. A few comments in the OP laments body shaming calling it shameful but at the same time bemoaning toxic masculinity. 
    Quick question, what EXACTLY do you define as toxic masculinity? Are all males toxic? Labelling us all as toxic IS absolutely shameful. Maybe, instead of tarring us all with a particular brush you could aim your barbs at those who deserve it. 
    For example, those men in Afghanistan, who, immediately after the U.S. made a deal with terrorists stopped women being educated and began their regimen of female oppression. Maybe the Iranian men too who murder women for not covering their hair to name but two.
    There are plenty of what I would call  'embarrassments' to men. It's just a shame that there are equivalent women. 
    Maybe, just maybe we can all do better.
    Toxic masculinity is not being content with the 1:00 games and needing to watch the 4:00 games
    so is toxic femininity binging on vanderpump or the real housewives from atlanta?  
    watching sports is an example of toxic masculinity?  That's odd.
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  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,379
    URthekey said:
    OP is so right.
    World needs more men in silver stack heeled boots not afraid to lovingly hold another dude.


    I love this little video so much, also for the reasons you indicated. 
    #Grievance2025 
  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    edited December 2024
    Honestly, I wish that a gender wasn't tagged to the word toxic.  It makes people naturally defensive.  I initially was excited when that Gillete commercial came out.  It's good to be aware of important issues, in order to address them.  But then I saw the comments.  A couple snowflakes, ok cool, expected.  Then more sensitive dudes posting in defense.  I was shocked.  There's THAT many fragile snowflakes?!

    Toxic anything is bad.  And those defensive snowflakes should have known that health masculinity is very good (I mean we are an intelligent species for fucks sake, right?).  Strong, protective, helpful, mentor and so on...  

    Healthy masculinity / femininity / <insert word> is very good.
    Toxic masculinity / femininity / <insert word> is very bad. 

    Usually the lists of toxic traits for both men and women will intersect.  Likewise for healthy.
    This is all so glaring simple, and the mass public is... I'm really at a loss.  It's 2024 for fucks sake.

    Humanity appears to be dumbing down.  I understand the "higher ups" in charge of everything have planned to be so.
    Easier to control those that are less intelligent.
    But what burns me up is that these people are willfully stupid.  Like you don't have to be stupid, because the people running the world want you to be.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    The sarcasm was too thick?
  • smile6680
    smile6680 Posts: 437
    edited December 2024
    Weird post.

    Now let the people who can only see the world from one stance argue with each other. 
    Post edited by smile6680 on

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