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Also be careful about the dreaded inadvertent PJ Premium purchase on Friday.Hurls15 said:
This is the truth. I think that I have managed to upgrade every single show since F2F has been introduced, including to GA a couple times.danofun said:On the plus side (I know...), we wont have to dump our sub-par reserved seats and can fully rely on F2F!
I am interested to see what tix are on sale on Friday morning. I have a feeling it will be the least desirable tix up for grabs, preying on those that were shut out on presale. Before you buy, think back to what was popping up a day or two before the show last NA leg.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
0-1 missed out on night 1 Pittsburgh..0
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Well said. There are clearly some selection details that we are not privy to. Thanks to F2F, my account probably refreshed TMs site 100k times last year. And then I requested all 10 shows as GA/Res. In their eyes, the probability of me being the PJ crazed fan that I am is probably pretty low!pjl44 said:
Yeah this is the answer to the flippant "that's how lotteries go" response. If it's tough enough that you see people going 0 for 10, you wouldn't think you'd see many if any 7 for 8s.danofun said:
While you are correct that there will be variance. The probability of outcomes varies greatly. Speculation based on entry numbers is there were ~25,000 entries. For the sake of this exercise let’s assume the average number of shows selected was 3. The probability of a single entry winning 0 lotteries, when entering a minimum of 3, is 66.48%. The probability of an entry winning 7 or more is 0.000018%.BF25394 said:
This is the definition of random. Some will get all, some will get some, some will get none.danofun said:
We have no idea how the sausage is made so I'm not saying there's some grand conspiracy. But I also wouldn't constantly jump in and tut-tut someone who is frustrated.0 -
Either 0-4 or 1-4 depending on how this blank email/pending charge situation shakes out. Definitely looks like I hit for Pitt 2 but the transaction glitched. Never had an issue like this before. Waiting on word back from Ticketstoday.___________________________________________
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Bro what? That’s unacceptable. I saw plenty of people hit all shows. I’m sorry. My card got declined for a show even after I called the yesterday morning to tell them the exact amount and who it would be. Couldn’t sleep last nightIndifference said:0 for 160 -
Unfortunately the band's current touring practices have created a system of haves and have-nots. The band stills makes great music, still puts on a great show, and have every right to run their business however they see fit. However, the way in which they currently tour does support a system where only some can see them. Because they only hit certain cities, most have to travel see them which requires the financial and schedule flexibility to do so. Even when they hit major cities where travel may not be required, because they hit so few places on a single leg, it makes it difficult to obtain tickets. If you have the financial flexibility you can put in for all shows and increase your potential odds for winning. If you have the schedule flexibility, you can go anytime during the week or spend the time on f2f to potentially get tickets. Like I said, the band can run their business however they sit fit, but the unintended consequence is the current system where if you have the means you have a much better chance of seeing them live.0
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It's okay, we'll take you in JimmyV. NE represent!JimmyV said:Either 0-4 or 1-4 depending on how this blank email/pending charge situation shakes out. Definitely looks like I hit for Pitt 2 but the transaction glitched. Never had an issue like this before. Waiting on word back from Ticketstoday.PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & IIEV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
Plausible!KJ228171 said:
Festivals may be our only recourse🤣
Good thing I actually enjoy Even Flow nowadays 😉PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & IIEV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
Also would a festival like that in Charlotte allow them to book 2 headline show in Raleigh a week plus later?0
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0/1I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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I assume the same for me.Dickegan said:0-2 in Hollywood. Oh well, they’ll definitely be back in Florida soon, right? RIGHT?!
First off, there's no sane reason for them playing the Hard Rock Hollywood, vs. the Kia Center in Orlando for example, with a much better central location and it has about three times the capacity.
Secondly, you think that they'd have perfected the system after about 34 years. Why should I hang on to a 20+ year old membership (208XXX) if I can't get in the house in my home state for at least one of two shows?
1998 (#1-2) East Lansing & Auburn Hills; 2000 (#3-4) Tampa & Noblesville; 2003 (#5-6) Lexington & Noblesville; 2006 (#7) Cincinnati; 2007 (#8) Chicago (Lollapalooza);
2008 - Ed in Milwaukee; 2009 (#9) Chicago; 2010 (#10) Noblesville; 2013 (#11-13) San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2016 -Temple of the Dog in Los Angeles;
2017 - Ed in Dana Point (Ohana); 2021 (#14-16) Dana Point (Ohana) I, II & III; 2022 (#17-19) San Diego & Inglewood I & II; 2025 (#20-21) Hollywood I & II0 -
Depends on the offer. I don't see Lovin' Life as a lock, but I won't be surprised, either.pjl44 said:Also would a festival like that in Charlotte allow them to book 2 headline show in Raleigh a week plus later?PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & IIEV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
The first point: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That venue has pulled the following in the last decade: The Stones, Bruce, Metallica, RHCP, and Gn'R. It's sad, but true.Spartanacus said:
I assume the same for me.Dickegan said:0-2 in Hollywood. Oh well, they’ll definitely be back in Florida soon, right? RIGHT?!
First off, there's no sane reason for them playing the Hard Rock Hollywood, vs. the Kia Center in Orlando for example, with a much better central location and it has about three times the capacity.
Secondly, you think that they'd have perfected the system after about 34 years. Why should I hang on to a 20+ year old membership (208XXX) if I can't get in the house in my home state for at least one of two shows?
The second point: I got nothin'. Right there with ya, bud. Tampa used to be a lock. Now? Tumbleweeds. Damn shame, too. Every single Tampa show slaps. No phoning it in, not once.
For the first time ever, I too am questioning: "do I need to spend the extra yearly cost?" Especially with F2F wide open? Something to think about...PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & IIEV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
That's surprising. Any OG who put in for one show that wasn't Hollywood should've gotten it. No reason not to.mcgruff10 said:0/1PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & IIEV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
I miss the priority system... Imagine having two different accounts (Wife and I)... Both accounts entered for one draw only... And both are trending to be shut out...Go Animal said:
That's surprising. Any OG who put in for one show that wasn't Hollywood should've gotten it. No reason not to.mcgruff10 said:0/1
You'd assume single entries would be prioritized, it is what it is2000 - Toronto
2003 - Toronto
2005 - Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2009 - Toronto
2011 - Hamilton
2013 - Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Wrigley I, Wrigley II
2018 - Seattle I, Seattle II, Fenway I, Fenway II
2020 - Toronto, Hamilton
2022 - Las Vegas, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023 - St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024 - NY I
2025 - Pittsburgh I, Pittsburgh II0 -
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Requested pairs for FL and Pitt shows and singles for Nashville.
Got good seats for MSG a couple weeks before the shows and great Phi seats day-of this year. Same strategy will apply.2003 - June 15 Fargo
2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago0 -
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😉1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth0
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