Same folks up front

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

Chrrie said:

jwhjr17 said:

arms outstretched said:

pjl44 said:

Several people: "Most people lining up are cool but I've definitely witnessed some erratic, aggressive behavior."

Guy who parachutes in, posting erratically and aggressively: "Been there. Doesn't happen. Total fabrication."

And your first hand knowledge is? 

Yeah. Thought so. Go with the group mentality here. Suits you. 

There have been numerous posts on this thread with first hand knowledge of shenanigans.  I've experienced it as well.  Keep trying.

No, there are vague posts with one sided stories about something that may or may not have happened and are being attributed to this group of people unfairly. 

I told my example of the Seattle line where two people showed up two days early but wanted to sleep in their hotel room. The people in line said that’s not cool you can’t do that and an argument ensued because their reasoning was “you all sleep in hotels anyway”. They actually did stay in line and probably didn’t actually sleep there but to prevent any further altercations no one said anything and just let them be. 

All those people need to do is show up in this thread and say the people in line bullied them and made their experience awful and it will be taken as gospel by everyone here who wants to believe in the narrative of a rail mafia. 

The way that group talked to those two people was sad and pathetic. They are hypocrites. End of story. 

That very same show in Seattle one of the railriders snuck in without a ticket and cut in front of bunch of people. You know who I mean. Everyone cheered him on in your group. Not one person said go back to the line or that was not fair. 

Hypocrites 

Were you there? 

Yes. If you were there as you say you were you know exactly what I am talking about. 

You were in the ga line? No. Never have been. Right? 

Yes I was. 

Are you denying this happened? Everyone in the line saw it happen as he skipped down the stairs hi fiving people cutting the line. Why are you acting like it didn't? This is just one small example over dozens that I have seen over the years. 

You did not camp out. You don’t know anything about what went on with the other 2 people or that person who was in line for over 48 hours. So don’t make it seem like you do. You don’t line up. You show up afternoon of. Please. 

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

Chrrie said:

jwhjr17 said:

arms outstretched said:

pjl44 said:

Several people: "Most people lining up are cool but I've definitely witnessed some erratic, aggressive behavior."

Guy who parachutes in, posting erratically and aggressively: "Been there. Doesn't happen. Total fabrication."

And your first hand knowledge is? 

Yeah. Thought so. Go with the group mentality here. Suits you. 

There have been numerous posts on this thread with first hand knowledge of shenanigans.  I've experienced it as well.  Keep trying.

No, there are vague posts with one sided stories about something that may or may not have happened and are being attributed to this group of people unfairly. 

I told my example of the Seattle line where two people showed up two days early but wanted to sleep in their hotel room. The people in line said that’s not cool you can’t do that and an argument ensued because their reasoning was “you all sleep in hotels anyway”. They actually did stay in line and probably didn’t actually sleep there but to prevent any further altercations no one said anything and just let them be. 

All those people need to do is show up in this thread and say the people in line bullied them and made their experience awful and it will be taken as gospel by everyone here who wants to believe in the narrative of a rail mafia. 

The way that group talked to those two people was sad and pathetic. They are hypocrites. End of story. 

That very same show in Seattle one of the railriders snuck in without a ticket and cut in front of bunch of people. You know who I mean. Everyone cheered him on in your group. Not one person said go back to the line or that was not fair. 

Hypocrites 

Were you there? 

Yes. If you were there as you say you were you know exactly what I am talking about. 

You were in the ga line? No. Never have been. Right? 

Yes I was. 

Are you denying this happened? Everyone in the line saw it happen as he skipped down the stairs hi fiving people cutting the line. Why are you acting like it didn't? This is just one small example over dozens that I have seen over the years. 

You did not camp out. You don’t know anything about what went on with the other 2 people or that person who was in line for over 48 hours. So don’t make it seem like you do. You don’t line up. You show up afternoon of. Please. 

PLEASE! 

SomethingCreative said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

arms outstretched said:

BigRedd said:

Chrrie said:

jwhjr17 said:

arms outstretched said:

pjl44 said:

Several people: "Most people lining up are cool but I've definitely witnessed some erratic, aggressive behavior."

Guy who parachutes in, posting erratically and aggressively: "Been there. Doesn't happen. Total fabrication."

And your first hand knowledge is? 

Yeah. Thought so. Go with the group mentality here. Suits you. 

There have been numerous posts on this thread with first hand knowledge of shenanigans.  I've experienced it as well.  Keep trying.

No, there are vague posts with one sided stories about something that may or may not have happened and are being attributed to this group of people unfairly. 

I told my example of the Seattle line where two people showed up two days early but wanted to sleep in their hotel room. The people in line said that’s not cool you can’t do that and an argument ensued because their reasoning was “you all sleep in hotels anyway”. They actually did stay in line and probably didn’t actually sleep there but to prevent any further altercations no one said anything and just let them be. 

All those people need to do is show up in this thread and say the people in line bullied them and made their experience awful and it will be taken as gospel by everyone here who wants to believe in the narrative of a rail mafia. 

The way that group talked to those two people was sad and pathetic. They are hypocrites. End of story. 

That very same show in Seattle one of the railriders snuck in without a ticket and cut in front of bunch of people. You know who I mean. Everyone cheered him on in your group. Not one person said go back to the line or that was not fair. 

Hypocrites 

Were you there? 

Yes. If you were there as you say you were you know exactly what I am talking about. 

You were in the ga line? No. Never have been. Right? 

Yes I was. 

Are you denying this happened? Everyone in the line saw it happen as he skipped down the stairs hi fiving people cutting the line. Why are you acting like it didn't? This is just one small example over dozens that I have seen over the years. 

You did not camp out. You don’t know anything about what went on with the other 2 people or that person who was in line for over 48 hours. So don’t make it seem like you do. You don’t line up. You show up afternoon of. Please. 

I can’t tell if you’re upset about the accusations or if it’s a “stolen valor” thing about camping out.

This shit is embarassing

Chrrie said:

BigRedd said:

Chrrie said:

jwhjr17 said:

Kwieneke said:

as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 

This is the question.

As someone in that group I can assure you that we all spend as much or more time refreshing TM as anyone. 

Are you telling me there is no bracelet sharing or sneaking people in going on? Seriously lol. 

We’re walked in single file before general doors and scanned individually. How are we going to bracelet share? 

CantKeepmedown said:

Holy shit this thread got weird. I can't believe this is a group of grown adults lol

arms outstretched said:

on2legs said:

arms outstretched said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

on2legs said:

I have no issues with people hustling/f5ing/finding trades to get into GA as many times as they want.  That’s totally fine.  I would just like to see a random number draw to mix up the very front.  I see a lot of people sharing how much better the rail or being right up front is so why not spread the wealth out for everyone if it’s that great?

I said in a previous post what a lottery can turn into. Every show I go to there is someone in the GA line who has never done it before. During tours there’s posts on fb to the effect of: “won GA, it’s been a dream to be on the rail what do I have to do”. Literally in this thread 15 posts up Amantria said they want to do it someday. 

If they implement a lottery, you most likely will never know what this feels like. You won tickets to your home town show, spouse is ready to watch the kids, it’s over a weekend, you want the rail that one time in your life? Sorry. There’s a lottery, hope you win and your number is lower than 40. And let’s be serious here, for the rail you don’t need to camp overnight. As I said previously there is usually less than 10 people who go to EVERY show. Get there before them or even after and you’re still going to have an insane spot and everyone here will think you’re part of the rail mafia cause no one but them is allowed to be that close. 

I like that the rail is full of people who want it bad enough to figure this out. People have kids, jobs, and responsibilities like everyone else. I have a medical condition that requires me to take medication every day. Having any of these things shouldn’t preclude you from being able to be somewhere else for 12-48 hours depending on where on the rail you’re aiming for. It seems like what is happening is a vocal minority want to be on the rail but don’t want to inconvenience themselves to do it, so you want to blow the whole thing up and make it random just so the people who can aren’t able to anymore. 

If it’s really only 10 people then why are we continuing a process that benefits just those 10 people to the detriment of the other 1,000 people in GA? 

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

on2legs said:

I have no issues with people hustling/f5ing/finding trades to get into GA as many times as they want.  That’s totally fine.  I would just like to see a random number draw to mix up the very front.  I see a lot of people sharing how much better the rail or being right up front is so why not spread the wealth out for everyone if it’s that great?

I said in a previous post what a lottery can turn into. Every show I go to there is someone in the GA line who has never done it before. During tours there’s posts on fb to the effect of: “won GA, it’s been a dream to be on the rail what do I have to do”. Literally in this thread 15 posts up Amantria said they want to do it someday. 

If they implement a lottery, you most likely will never know what this feels like. You won tickets to your home town show, spouse is ready to watch the kids, it’s over a weekend, you want the rail that one time in your life? Sorry. There’s a lottery, hope you win and your number is lower than 40. And let’s be serious here, for the rail you don’t need to camp overnight. As I said previously there is usually less than 10 people who go to EVERY show. Get there before them or even after and you’re still going to have an insane spot and everyone here will think you’re part of the rail mafia cause no one but them is allowed to be that close. 

I like that the rail is full of people who want it bad enough to figure this out. People have kids, jobs, and responsibilities like everyone else. I have a medical condition that requires me to take medication every day. Having any of these things shouldn’t preclude you from being able to be somewhere else for 12-48 hours depending on where on the rail you’re aiming for. It seems like what is happening is a vocal minority want to be on the rail but don’t want to inconvenience themselves to do it, so you want to blow the whole thing up and make it random just so the people who can aren’t able to anymore. 

If it’s really only 10 people then why are we continuing a process that benefits just those 10 people to the detriment of the other 1,000 people in GA? 

Benefits? The other 1000 can’t figure out where the line is? 

Of course they can.  I’m just saying there should be a random number draw and then everyone can show up to that line an hour before doors open.  

Why? So “everyone can get their chance”? This isn’t kindergarten.