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  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • shecky
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    No. 

    The organization has been criticized for requiring volunteers to sign a controversial Statement of Faith which disavows homosexuality and same-sex marriage.
    Here is my original post from 4 days ago:
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  • mace1229
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    GlowGirl said:
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    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,265
    What actually gets done remains to be seen, but no, the plan is to deport all illegals. Thats Mass Deportation.

  • Go Beavers
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    mace1229 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    shecky said:
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    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 

    ‘In May of last year, Trump released a campaign video renewing his call to end the long-standing constitutional right, saying he would sign an executive order on day one of his presidency that would ensure that children born to parents who do not have legal status in the U.S. will not be considered U.S. citizens.

    “The United States is among the only countries in the world that says even if neither parent is a citizen or even lawfully in the country, their future children are automatic citizens the moment the parents trespass onto our soil,” Trump said in the video.’

  • mickeyrat
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    Tim Simmons said:
    What actually gets done remains to be seen, but no, the plan is to deport all illegals. Thats Mass Deportation.


    and revoke citizenship for some who are naturalized.
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    To be this ignorant regarding POOTWH’s plans for mass deportations and immigration at this stage is astounding and a testament to how easily duped some people can be.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    To be this ignorant regarding POOTWH’s plans for mass deportations and immigration at this stage is astounding and a testament to how easily duped some people can be.

    either plain ignorant , which can be excused or or worse willfully ignorant which is imo inexcusable.
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    To be this ignorant regarding POOTWH’s plans for mass deportations and immigration at this stage is astounding and a testament to how easily duped some people can be.

    either plain ignorant , which can be excused or or worse willfully ignorant which is imo inexcusable.
    Don't be so tough on yourself.
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  • josevolution
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    shecky said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    To be this ignorant regarding POOTWH’s plans for mass deportations and immigration at this stage is astounding and a testament to how easily duped some people can be.

    either plain ignorant , which can be excused or or worse willfully ignorant which is imo inexcusable.
    Don't be so tough on yourself.
    😂 you responded it must of hit a nerve 
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  • EC13
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    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 
    Fun fact: Texas is the only state in the entire US that measures crime by immigration status. And all the data coming out of the state shows that undocumented immigrants are up to 20% less likely to commit violent crimes. So whenever you hear someone saying "migrant crime" it's fear mongering plain and simple. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    EC13 said:
    mace1229 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    shecky said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Choccoloccotide said:



    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 
    Fun fact: Texas is the only state in the entire US that measures crime by immigration status. And all the data coming out of the state shows that undocumented immigrants are up to 20% less likely to commit violent crimes. So whenever you hear someone saying "migrant crime" it's fear mongering plain and simple. 
    Well there is MS13, Russian Mob and Chinese gangs.  Maybe he meant them, lol.
  • tempo_n_groove
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    Go Beavers said:
    mace1229 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    shecky said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Choccoloccotide said:



    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 

    ‘In May of last year, Trump released a campaign video renewing his call to end the long-standing constitutional right, saying he would sign an executive order on day one of his presidency that would ensure that children born to parents who do not have legal status in the U.S. will not be considered U.S. citizens.

    “The United States is among the only countries in the world that says even if neither parent is a citizen or even lawfully in the country, their future children are automatic citizens the moment the parents trespass onto our soil,” Trump said in the video.’

    I don't think an executive order can undo the constitution.  I may be wrong but I think he can't do that.
  • Go Beavers
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Go Beavers said:
    mace1229 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    shecky said:
    GlowGirl said:
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    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 

    ‘In May of last year, Trump released a campaign video renewing his call to end the long-standing constitutional right, saying he would sign an executive order on day one of his presidency that would ensure that children born to parents who do not have legal status in the U.S. will not be considered U.S. citizens.

    “The United States is among the only countries in the world that says even if neither parent is a citizen or even lawfully in the country, their future children are automatic citizens the moment the parents trespass onto our soil,” Trump said in the video.’

    I don't think an executive order can undo the constitution.  I may be wrong but I think he can't do that.
    Correct. I was quoting him more for the sake of motives and to watch all the people who voted for him fall in line suddenly, as if 10-12 years ago they had an issue with birthright citizenship. I’m thinking most of his EOs won’t hold up in court, then he can conveniently play victim and attack the judicial
    system. 
  • mace1229
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    Go Beavers said:
    mace1229 said:
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    shecky said:
    GlowGirl said:
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    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 

    ‘In May of last year, Trump released a campaign video renewing his call to end the long-standing constitutional right, saying he would sign an executive order on day one of his presidency that would ensure that children born to parents who do not have legal status in the U.S. will not be considered U.S. citizens.

    “The United States is among the only countries in the world that says even if neither parent is a citizen or even lawfully in the country, their future children are automatic citizens the moment the parents trespass onto our soil,” Trump said in the video.’

    I remember him saying that. The plan was to rewrite the 14th amendment. I don't recall anything about revoking the citizenship of those who already have it.
    And I don't have an issue with that. The 14th amendment was written as part of the reconstruction act for freed slaves. I have no issue with amending it to qualify to those born here legally. The idea of an "anchor" baby is so weird to me. 
  • mace1229
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    EC13 said:
    mace1229 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    shecky said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Choccoloccotide said:



    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 
    Fun fact: Texas is the only state in the entire US that measures crime by immigration status. And all the data coming out of the state shows that undocumented immigrants are up to 20% less likely to commit violent crimes. So whenever you hear someone saying "migrant crime" it's fear mongering plain and simple. 
    I don't believe I've ever claimed migrant crime was higher.
    I still support deporting illegal violent criminals and many other crimes.
  • Gern Blansten
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    mace1229 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    mace1229 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    shecky said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Choccoloccotide said:



    You good with this Jose?  I’m not.  There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents.  Why is this acceptable to you?
    I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.


    On a related note, this is rather interesting. I doubt that Mayor Adams considers himself a Conservative or a nazi or a racist.
    This is a bit out of context. He said he would work with them to deport violent criminals who are here illegally. I don't think he is supporting mass deportations.

    But isn't that largely trumps plan?
    I have never heard trump or anyone else saying they want to deport immigrants. It's only illegal immigrants. And they plan to start with violent criminals. So deporting violent illegal immigrant criminals is the "mass deportation". 

    ‘In May of last year, Trump released a campaign video renewing his call to end the long-standing constitutional right, saying he would sign an executive order on day one of his presidency that would ensure that children born to parents who do not have legal status in the U.S. will not be considered U.S. citizens.

    “The United States is among the only countries in the world that says even if neither parent is a citizen or even lawfully in the country, their future children are automatic citizens the moment the parents trespass onto our soil,” Trump said in the video.’

    I remember him saying that. The plan was to rewrite the 14th amendment. I don't recall anything about revoking the citizenship of those who already have it.
    And I don't have an issue with that. The 14th amendment was written as part of the reconstruction act for freed slaves. I have no issue with amending it to qualify to those born here legally. The idea of an "anchor" baby is so weird to me. 
    yeah I don't really have a problem with that either but it does seem like an odd thing to focus on...kind of a racist vibe when your admin is known to dance on the racism line


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  • Tim Simmons
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    Americans aren't fucking to have more kids. let the ones who want a shot here let their kids stays.


    Actually let the parents stay too.

  • mace1229
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    To be this ignorant regarding POOTWH’s plans for mass deportations and immigration at this stage is astounding and a testament to how easily duped some people can be.
    Where is he going to get the resources and funding to track down and deport every single illegal immigrant?
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