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If this does indeed happen, the question is, who will replace these workers?Also, out of curiosity, how many here have ever done field work or greenhouse work? How many people do you personally know who do or have done this kind of work? Would you or any of your family or friends step up to the plate and take these jobs? Is the average American citizen willing to do this work?If not, be prepared to see your grocery bills increase significantly. And then give the Felon a good hearty sarcastic, "Thanks a lot, bub."
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Crickets, as usualmookieblalock said:
Is this a real comeback?shecky said:
Key word is "was". Laken cannot contribute to this conversation on 'Immigration' because Laken was murdered by an illlegal alien, flown on taxpayer dollars from NYC to Atlanta, at the alien's request.mookieblalock said:
How many kids are murdered in schools every year?0 -
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So now do the math on the number for the expulsions I put the link up above how much that will cost!Choccoloccotide said:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
josevolution said:https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportationHere you go chocotide I’m sure this administration will somehow get the $$$ from the middle class! Its a conservative estimate 😂 who’s going to pay for Mexico 😂😂
Go ahead read it this timeChoccoloccotide said:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
If I read it and it’s bullshit.josevolution said:josevolution said:https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportationHere you go chocotide I’m sure this administration will somehow get the $$$ from the middle class! Its a conservative estimate 😂 who’s going to pay for Mexico 😂😂
Go ahead read it this timeChoccoloccotide said:0 -
If 😂 yeah if I was a king 😂 but X is legit the site that’s run by an immigrant racist that X?Choccoloccotide said:
If I read it and it’s bullshit.josevolution said:josevolution said:https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportationHere you go chocotide I’m sure this administration will somehow get the $$$ from the middle class! Its a conservative estimate 😂 who’s going to pay for Mexico 😂😂
Go ahead read it this timeChoccoloccotide said:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?0 -
Hugh hearts drama.HughFreakingDillon said:
I have no issue with deportations of illegal immigrants or ones that have been found breaking the law. It's how it is said that is important. "mass deportations can't start soon enough" is nazi-like language. I stand by that statement.benjs said:
I think this is a bit extreme. Trump often hides behind ambiguous wording just to get everyone riled up. When talking to the right, he can make blanket statements like this against all immigrants with no recourse, but the left will speak up. Then he can backtrack and say he obviously meant undocumented immigrants, and that as usual liberal Democrats are liars. The unfortunate thing is, if/when he backtracks, it’s a fair statement (whether or not you agree with the economics of it). A country has a right to defend its borders and institute its own choice of immigration policy.HughFreakingDillon said:
and this is why you get labelled as nazis.Choccoloccotide said:
This is great news. Mass deportations can’t start soon enough.shecky said:
Published November 28, 2024 7:33pm ESTTexas could implement a plan to bus migrants directly to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in an effort to get them processed for deportation, according to media reports.
The move would be a departure from the state's program, part of Operation Lone Star, that has bussed thousands of migrants to sanctuary cities, a source told the New York Post. It has yet to be approved by Gov. Greg Abbott.
Fox News Digital has reached out to Abbott's office.
"We are always going to be involved in border security so long as we’re a border state," a Texas government source told the newspaper. "We spent a lot of taxpayer money to have the level of deterrent that we have on the border, and we can’t just walk away."
Abbott has been especially aggressive in combating illegal immigration, bussing migrants to blue cities in an effort to bring attention to the border crisis. Under the proposed plan, buses chartered by Texas from border cities will be taken to federal detention centers to help ICE agents process migrants quickly, the Post reported.
Texas has been in a legal fight with the Biden administration over its efforts to curb illegal immigration. On Wednesday, an appeals court ruled that the state has the right to build a razor wire border wall to deter migrants.
Officials have also offered land to the incoming Trump administration to build deportation centers to hold illegal immigrant criminals.
"My office has identified several of our properties and is standing by ready to make this happen on Day One of the Trump presidency," Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham said during a visit to the border Tuesday.
Authorities have also warned of unaccompanied migrant children being caught near the border. On Thursday, a 10-year-old boy from El Salvador told state troopers in Maverick County, Texas, that he had been lost and left behind by a human smuggler.
The boy was holding a cellphone and crying, Texas Department of Public Safety Lt. Chris Olivarez posted on X. The child said his parents were in the U.S.
On Sunday, troopers encountered an unaccompanied 2-year-old girl from El Salvador holding a piece of paper with a phone number and her name. She told authorities that her parents were also in the U.S.
That morning, state troopers also encountered a group of 211 illegal immigrants in Maverick County. Among the group were 60 unaccompanied children, ages 2 to 17, and six special interest immigrants from Mali and Angola.
"Regardless of political views, it is unacceptable for any child to be exposed to dangerous criminal trafficking networks," Olivarez wrote at the time. "With a record number of unaccompanied children and hundreds of thousands missing, there is no one ensuring the safety & security of these children except for the men & women who are on the frontlines daily."
He noted that the "reality is that many children are exploited & trafficked, never to be heard from again."
FUCK YES! LET'S USE THE SAME STRATEGY WE USED TO WIN THE ELECTION THIS YEAR - GIVE IT EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT - ALL OF THE TIME, 24/7!
IT WAS BRILLIANT OF GOV. ABBOTT TO SHIP THE ILLEGALS TO RICH BLUE CITIES TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE ISSUE, BUT NOW THAT GOAL HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
I SAY, GET 'EM THE HELL OUT HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, USING AS MANY METHODS AS WE CAN THINK OF!
GO! GO! GO!
In my opinion, and we’ll see if this is true in a couple of months, he’s using his words as a litmus test to see how much he can get away with without public recourse, without government recourse, and to gauge the popularity of statements and policies. I think his strategy is something like “ask for the moon so that when your second act is slightly less ridiculous, it looks reasonable”. Again, all opinions here.0 -
I don't believe you.mookieblalock said:
You have nothing.shecky said:
"If you can’t keep up with the conversation, best not try to join in." (from the film 'Hannibal')mookieblalock said:
I want republicans to listen to all school shooting tapesshecky said:
Published November 30, 2024 9:00am ESTTom Homan wants all government officials to listen to Laken Riley tapes: 'Shame on you'
The incoming border czar is warning sanctuary city officials they will not stop the Trump administration from deporting illegal migrants."You're not going to stop us doing what we're going to do," incoming Trump border czar Tom Homan said recently on "The Ingraham Angle."
"We'll move them to a state where we can detain them. There is plenty of sheriffs across this country who are willing to give us empty beds. They want the funding, and we can put them in jail all across the country," he continued. "We'll have no problem finding a place to detain these people. It's going to cost money, so we've got to have the money to do it, but President Trump's going to do everything he can to make sure we have the funds to do this. So, they will be arrested, detained, put on an airplane and go home."
Homan said he gets "emotional" about illegal immigration because he has "seen so much tragedy" after illegal migrants have sexually abused and raped children "as young as nine years old."
He mourned the death of Laken Riley, a 22-year-old nursing student who was killed by an illegal immigrant while she was going for a run.
"I want every mayor, every governor of a sanctuary jurisdiction to listen to that tape, listen to this young girl fight for her life, fight for her breath, trying to survive, terrified," he said. "I want you to understand what she went through."
Homan cautioned federal officials to not "cross the line," pointing to a statute that makes it a federal crime to knowingly harbor illegal immigrants.
"For any governor or mayor who doesn't want public safety threats taken out of their communities, he should resign your office, because your number-one responsibility is to protect those communities," he said. "We have ways of finding people. . . . We will find many of these folks. They will be arrested, they'll be detained, and they'll be removed."
Homan said there will be due process, but if a federal judge orders someone to be removed, they will be removed.
"For those governors and mayors that are saying they're going to stop Tom Homan, they're going to stop President Trump: Shame on you. Your responsibility is to protect your communities, and that's what we want to do, is protect your community."
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I can take it. Follow my lead.battle1 said:
I don't believe you.mookieblalock said:
You have nothing.shecky said:
"If you can’t keep up with the conversation, best not try to join in." (from the film 'Hannibal')mookieblalock said:
I want republicans to listen to all school shooting tapesshecky said:Published November 30, 2024 9:00am ESTTom Homan wants all government officials to listen to Laken Riley tapes: 'Shame on you'
The incoming border czar is warning sanctuary city officials they will not stop the Trump administration from deporting illegal migrants."You're not going to stop us doing what we're going to do," incoming Trump border czar Tom Homan said recently on "The Ingraham Angle."
"We'll move them to a state where we can detain them. There is plenty of sheriffs across this country who are willing to give us empty beds. They want the funding, and we can put them in jail all across the country," he continued. "We'll have no problem finding a place to detain these people. It's going to cost money, so we've got to have the money to do it, but President Trump's going to do everything he can to make sure we have the funds to do this. So, they will be arrested, detained, put on an airplane and go home."
Homan said he gets "emotional" about illegal immigration because he has "seen so much tragedy" after illegal migrants have sexually abused and raped children "as young as nine years old."
He mourned the death of Laken Riley, a 22-year-old nursing student who was killed by an illegal immigrant while she was going for a run.
"I want every mayor, every governor of a sanctuary jurisdiction to listen to that tape, listen to this young girl fight for her life, fight for her breath, trying to survive, terrified," he said. "I want you to understand what she went through."
Homan cautioned federal officials to not "cross the line," pointing to a statute that makes it a federal crime to knowingly harbor illegal immigrants.
"For any governor or mayor who doesn't want public safety threats taken out of their communities, he should resign your office, because your number-one responsibility is to protect those communities," he said. "We have ways of finding people. . . . We will find many of these folks. They will be arrested, they'll be detained, and they'll be removed."
Homan said there will be due process, but if a federal judge orders someone to be removed, they will be removed.
"For those governors and mayors that are saying they're going to stop Tom Homan, they're going to stop President Trump: Shame on you. Your responsibility is to protect your communities, and that's what we want to do, is protect your community."
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I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.Choccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?
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You mean the same idiots who were told by folks like yourself to refuse FEMA help those those people nope I don’t give a fuck about them! Why worry these immigrants in hotels will all be gone on day 1 but those idiots in NC will still be in tents , maybe your king will sign EO to build them new trailer homes including flag pole holder by the front doorChoccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Why are you obsessed with me?battle1 said:
Hugh hearts drama.HughFreakingDillon said:
I have no issue with deportations of illegal immigrants or ones that have been found breaking the law. It's how it is said that is important. "mass deportations can't start soon enough" is nazi-like language. I stand by that statement.benjs said:
I think this is a bit extreme. Trump often hides behind ambiguous wording just to get everyone riled up. When talking to the right, he can make blanket statements like this against all immigrants with no recourse, but the left will speak up. Then he can backtrack and say he obviously meant undocumented immigrants, and that as usual liberal Democrats are liars. The unfortunate thing is, if/when he backtracks, it’s a fair statement (whether or not you agree with the economics of it). A country has a right to defend its borders and institute its own choice of immigration policy.HughFreakingDillon said:
and this is why you get labelled as nazis.Choccoloccotide said:
This is great news. Mass deportations can’t start soon enough.shecky said:Published November 28, 2024 7:33pm ESTTexas could implement a plan to bus migrants directly to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in an effort to get them processed for deportation, according to media reports.
The move would be a departure from the state's program, part of Operation Lone Star, that has bussed thousands of migrants to sanctuary cities, a source told the New York Post. It has yet to be approved by Gov. Greg Abbott.
Fox News Digital has reached out to Abbott's office.
"We are always going to be involved in border security so long as we’re a border state," a Texas government source told the newspaper. "We spent a lot of taxpayer money to have the level of deterrent that we have on the border, and we can’t just walk away."
Abbott has been especially aggressive in combating illegal immigration, bussing migrants to blue cities in an effort to bring attention to the border crisis. Under the proposed plan, buses chartered by Texas from border cities will be taken to federal detention centers to help ICE agents process migrants quickly, the Post reported.
Texas has been in a legal fight with the Biden administration over its efforts to curb illegal immigration. On Wednesday, an appeals court ruled that the state has the right to build a razor wire border wall to deter migrants.
Officials have also offered land to the incoming Trump administration to build deportation centers to hold illegal immigrant criminals.
"My office has identified several of our properties and is standing by ready to make this happen on Day One of the Trump presidency," Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham said during a visit to the border Tuesday.
Authorities have also warned of unaccompanied migrant children being caught near the border. On Thursday, a 10-year-old boy from El Salvador told state troopers in Maverick County, Texas, that he had been lost and left behind by a human smuggler.
The boy was holding a cellphone and crying, Texas Department of Public Safety Lt. Chris Olivarez posted on X. The child said his parents were in the U.S.
On Sunday, troopers encountered an unaccompanied 2-year-old girl from El Salvador holding a piece of paper with a phone number and her name. She told authorities that her parents were also in the U.S.
That morning, state troopers also encountered a group of 211 illegal immigrants in Maverick County. Among the group were 60 unaccompanied children, ages 2 to 17, and six special interest immigrants from Mali and Angola.
"Regardless of political views, it is unacceptable for any child to be exposed to dangerous criminal trafficking networks," Olivarez wrote at the time. "With a record number of unaccompanied children and hundreds of thousands missing, there is no one ensuring the safety & security of these children except for the men & women who are on the frontlines daily."
He noted that the "reality is that many children are exploited & trafficked, never to be heard from again."
FUCK YES! LET'S USE THE SAME STRATEGY WE USED TO WIN THE ELECTION THIS YEAR - GIVE IT EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT - ALL OF THE TIME, 24/7!
IT WAS BRILLIANT OF GOV. ABBOTT TO SHIP THE ILLEGALS TO RICH BLUE CITIES TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE ISSUE, BUT NOW THAT GOAL HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
I SAY, GET 'EM THE HELL OUT HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, USING AS MANY METHODS AS WE CAN THINK OF!
GO! GO! GO!
In my opinion, and we’ll see if this is true in a couple of months, he’s using his words as a litmus test to see how much he can get away with without public recourse, without government recourse, and to gauge the popularity of statements and policies. I think his strategy is something like “ask for the moon so that when your second act is slightly less ridiculous, it looks reasonable”. Again, all opinions here.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
Why are you obsessed with me?battle1 said:
Hugh hearts drama.HughFreakingDillon said:
I have no issue with deportations of illegal immigrants or ones that have been found breaking the law. It's how it is said that is important. "mass deportations can't start soon enough" is nazi-like language. I stand by that statement.benjs said:
I think this is a bit extreme. Trump often hides behind ambiguous wording just to get everyone riled up. When talking to the right, he can make blanket statements like this against all immigrants with no recourse, but the left will speak up. Then he can backtrack and say he obviously meant undocumented immigrants, and that as usual liberal Democrats are liars. The unfortunate thing is, if/when he backtracks, it’s a fair statement (whether or not you agree with the economics of it). A country has a right to defend its borders and institute its own choice of immigration policy.HughFreakingDillon said:
and this is why you get labelled as nazis.Choccoloccotide said:
This is great news. Mass deportations can’t start soon enough.shecky said:Published November 28, 2024 7:33pm ESTTexas could implement a plan to bus migrants directly to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in an effort to get them processed for deportation, according to media reports.
The move would be a departure from the state's program, part of Operation Lone Star, that has bussed thousands of migrants to sanctuary cities, a source told the New York Post. It has yet to be approved by Gov. Greg Abbott.
Fox News Digital has reached out to Abbott's office.
"We are always going to be involved in border security so long as we’re a border state," a Texas government source told the newspaper. "We spent a lot of taxpayer money to have the level of deterrent that we have on the border, and we can’t just walk away."
Abbott has been especially aggressive in combating illegal immigration, bussing migrants to blue cities in an effort to bring attention to the border crisis. Under the proposed plan, buses chartered by Texas from border cities will be taken to federal detention centers to help ICE agents process migrants quickly, the Post reported.
Texas has been in a legal fight with the Biden administration over its efforts to curb illegal immigration. On Wednesday, an appeals court ruled that the state has the right to build a razor wire border wall to deter migrants.
Officials have also offered land to the incoming Trump administration to build deportation centers to hold illegal immigrant criminals.
"My office has identified several of our properties and is standing by ready to make this happen on Day One of the Trump presidency," Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham said during a visit to the border Tuesday.
Authorities have also warned of unaccompanied migrant children being caught near the border. On Thursday, a 10-year-old boy from El Salvador told state troopers in Maverick County, Texas, that he had been lost and left behind by a human smuggler.
The boy was holding a cellphone and crying, Texas Department of Public Safety Lt. Chris Olivarez posted on X. The child said his parents were in the U.S.
On Sunday, troopers encountered an unaccompanied 2-year-old girl from El Salvador holding a piece of paper with a phone number and her name. She told authorities that her parents were also in the U.S.
That morning, state troopers also encountered a group of 211 illegal immigrants in Maverick County. Among the group were 60 unaccompanied children, ages 2 to 17, and six special interest immigrants from Mali and Angola.
"Regardless of political views, it is unacceptable for any child to be exposed to dangerous criminal trafficking networks," Olivarez wrote at the time. "With a record number of unaccompanied children and hundreds of thousands missing, there is no one ensuring the safety & security of these children except for the men & women who are on the frontlines daily."
He noted that the "reality is that many children are exploited & trafficked, never to be heard from again."
FUCK YES! LET'S USE THE SAME STRATEGY WE USED TO WIN THE ELECTION THIS YEAR - GIVE IT EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT - ALL OF THE TIME, 24/7!
IT WAS BRILLIANT OF GOV. ABBOTT TO SHIP THE ILLEGALS TO RICH BLUE CITIES TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE ISSUE, BUT NOW THAT GOAL HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
I SAY, GET 'EM THE HELL OUT HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, USING AS MANY METHODS AS WE CAN THINK OF!
GO! GO! GO!
In my opinion, and we’ll see if this is true in a couple of months, he’s using his words as a litmus test to see how much he can get away with without public recourse, without government recourse, and to gauge the popularity of statements and policies. I think his strategy is something like “ask for the moon so that when your second act is slightly less ridiculous, it looks reasonable”. Again, all opinions here.
I think he/she likes hockey and maple syrup.
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***It is very easy to forget the hell that some of our fellow Americans in North Carolina are still induring EVERY day and night since Hurricane Helene struck them in late September 2024. It's COLD outside! We Pearl Jam fans are a relatively well-off group (witness the recent success of the "Mystery Bag" sales at, I believe, $80. a pop, with many people buying multiple bags). There are many ways that YOU can help today. I use and recommend www.samaritanspurse.org. to donate, but please choose whichever mode you are comfortable with and donate today. THANK YOU in advance!GlowGirl said:
I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.Choccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?
FEMA seems to be very confused why the people of #WNC are choosing to NOT use the hotel vouchers they are handing out... Let me explain: a) You're living in Swannanoa NC when the river rises 22 feet and sweeps away your home and 2 vehicles. b) You have a family of 4 depending on you to make ends meet and work starts back in a few days. c) FEMA hands you a hotel voucher an hour's drive from your now-destroyed home. d) You tell the FEMA rep, "Look, I don't have a car and I can't live in a hotel 40 miles away from work and the home I need to start fixing" e) FEMA says, "Ok, well your temporary home is 3 months away, sorry, so go live in the hotel." f) You say, "If I go live in that hotel, I'll lose my job, I won't be able to repair my home, and everything we've worked so hard for will be gone." g) FEMA says, "We still don't understand why you won't go live in a free hotel." h) You decide to it's actually LESS RISKY to live in a makeshift tent outside of your home and pray a volunteer will deliver you an RV than go live in a hotel an hour away and lose everything. This is what FEMA cannot seem to understand. People are generally very logical, they don't WANT to sleep in tents. Government policies tend to be broadly applied to all situations and the hotel vouchers are just not gonna cut it for a lot of people in #WNC, for the reason I mentioned above.0 -
I am very sorry for what the victims of the Hurricane have to endure. No one should have to live in a tent. And I understand the reluctance to go to a hotel far from home. I really hope they can get some help soon. However, you were berating the fact that we were providing shelter to people in NYC who also need shelter. I was just pointing out that in my opinion there is nothing wrong with giving them shelter. I don’t know much about NC but can other hotels near where people live offer some type of temporary shelter? I do donate to many causes. I will check out your link.shecky said:
***It is very easy to forget the hell that some of our fellow Americans in North Carolina are still induring EVERY day and night since Hurricane Helene struck them in late September 2024. It's COLD outside! We Pearl Jam fans are a relatively well-off group (witness the recent success of the "Mystery Bag" sales at, I believe, $80. a pop, with many people buying multiple bags). There are many ways that YOU can help today. I use and recommend www.samaritanspurse.org. to donate, but please choose whichever mode you are comfortable with and donate today. THANK YOU in advance!GlowGirl said:
I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.Choccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?FEMA seems to be very confused why the people of #WNC are choosing to NOT use the hotel vouchers they are handing out... Let me explain: a) You're living in Swannanoa NC when the river rises 22 feet and sweeps away your home and 2 vehicles. b) You have a family of 4 depending on you to make ends meet and work starts back in a few days. c) FEMA hands you a hotel voucher an hour's drive from your now-destroyed home. d) You tell the FEMA rep, "Look, I don't have a car and I can't live in a hotel 40 miles away from work and the home I need to start fixing" e) FEMA says, "Ok, well your temporary home is 3 months away, sorry, so go live in the hotel." f) You say, "If I go live in that hotel, I'll lose my job, I won't be able to repair my home, and everything we've worked so hard for will be gone." g) FEMA says, "We still don't understand why you won't go live in a free hotel." h) You decide to it's actually LESS RISKY to live in a makeshift tent outside of your home and pray a volunteer will deliver you an RV than go live in a hotel an hour away and lose everything. This is what FEMA cannot seem to understand. People are generally very logical, they don't WANT to sleep in tents. Government policies tend to be broadly applied to all situations and the hotel vouchers are just not gonna cut it for a lot of people in #WNC, for the reason I mentioned above.
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GlowGirl said:
I am very sorry for what the victims of the Hurricane have to endure. No one should have to live in a tent. And I understand the reluctance to go to a hotel far from home. I really hope they can get some help soon. However, you were berating the fact that we were providing shelter to people in NYC who also need shelter. I was just pointing out that in my opinion there is nothing wrong with giving them shelter. I don’t know much about NC but can other hotels near where people live offer some type of temporary shelter? I do donate to many causes. I will check out your link.shecky said:
***It is very easy to forget the hell that some of our fellow Americans in North Carolina are still induring EVERY day and night since Hurricane Helene struck them in late September 2024. It's COLD outside! We Pearl Jam fans are a relatively well-off group (witness the recent success of the "Mystery Bag" sales at, I believe, $80. a pop, with many people buying multiple bags). There are many ways that YOU can help today. I use and recommend www.samaritanspurse.org. to donate, but please choose whichever mode you are comfortable with and donate today. THANK YOU in advance!GlowGirl said:
I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.Choccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?FEMA seems to be very confused why the people of #WNC are choosing to NOT use the hotel vouchers they are handing out... Let me explain: a) You're living in Swannanoa NC when the river rises 22 feet and sweeps away your home and 2 vehicles. b) You have a family of 4 depending on you to make ends meet and work starts back in a few days. c) FEMA hands you a hotel voucher an hour's drive from your now-destroyed home. d) You tell the FEMA rep, "Look, I don't have a car and I can't live in a hotel 40 miles away from work and the home I need to start fixing" e) FEMA says, "Ok, well your temporary home is 3 months away, sorry, so go live in the hotel." f) You say, "If I go live in that hotel, I'll lose my job, I won't be able to repair my home, and everything we've worked so hard for will be gone." g) FEMA says, "We still don't understand why you won't go live in a free hotel." h) You decide to it's actually LESS RISKY to live in a makeshift tent outside of your home and pray a volunteer will deliver you an RV than go live in a hotel an hour away and lose everything. This is what FEMA cannot seem to understand. People are generally very logical, they don't WANT to sleep in tents. Government policies tend to be broadly applied to all situations and the hotel vouchers are just not gonna cut it for a lot of people in #WNC, for the reason I mentioned above.
this also assumes at least some of those folks didnt choose to stay in tents.
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I'm just passing along a news article I saw that answers your question regarding why motels aren't the answer for many of these hurricane victims in western North Carolina. They need to stay local in order to keep their jobs, and repair their homes on the weekends, but it's a rural area and the motels are too far away. These folk need heated RVs and campers to stay in and charities like Samaritan's Purse are doing their best to come up with them. I'm donating what I can and I'm asking others here to please do what they can. Thank you all very much.GlowGirl said:
I am very sorry for what the victims of the Hurricane have to endure. No one should have to live in a tent. And I understand the reluctance to go to a hotel far from home. I really hope they can get some help soon. However, you were berating the fact that we were providing shelter to people in NYC who also need shelter. I was just pointing out that in my opinion there is nothing wrong with giving them shelter. I don’t know much about NC but can other hotels near where people live offer some type of temporary shelter? I do donate to many causes. I will check out your link.shecky said:
***It is very easy to forget the hell that some of our fellow Americans in North Carolina are still induring EVERY day and night since Hurricane Helene struck them in late September 2024. It's COLD outside! We Pearl Jam fans are a relatively well-off group (witness the recent success of the "Mystery Bag" sales at, I believe, $80. a pop, with many people buying multiple bags). There are many ways that YOU can help today. I use and recommend www.samaritanspurse.org. to donate, but please choose whichever mode you are comfortable with and donate today. THANK YOU in advance!GlowGirl said:
I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.Choccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?FEMA seems to be very confused why the people of #WNC are choosing to NOT use the hotel vouchers they are handing out... Let me explain: a) You're living in Swannanoa NC when the river rises 22 feet and sweeps away your home and 2 vehicles. b) You have a family of 4 depending on you to make ends meet and work starts back in a few days. c) FEMA hands you a hotel voucher an hour's drive from your now-destroyed home. d) You tell the FEMA rep, "Look, I don't have a car and I can't live in a hotel 40 miles away from work and the home I need to start fixing" e) FEMA says, "Ok, well your temporary home is 3 months away, sorry, so go live in the hotel." f) You say, "If I go live in that hotel, I'll lose my job, I won't be able to repair my home, and everything we've worked so hard for will be gone." g) FEMA says, "We still don't understand why you won't go live in a free hotel." h) You decide to it's actually LESS RISKY to live in a makeshift tent outside of your home and pray a volunteer will deliver you an RV than go live in a hotel an hour away and lose everything. This is what FEMA cannot seem to understand. People are generally very logical, they don't WANT to sleep in tents. Government policies tend to be broadly applied to all situations and the hotel vouchers are just not gonna cut it for a lot of people in #WNC, for the reason I mentioned above.
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Sorry. You are right. That was not you I originally responded to. Apologies. Thanks for passing on the information. Sometimes, It is hard to keep all the threads straight.shecky said:
I'm just passing along a news article I saw that answers your question regarding why motels aren't the answer for many of these hurricane victims in western North Carolina. They need to stay local in order to keep their jobs, and repair their homes on the weekends, but it's a rural area and the motels are too far away. These folk need heated RVs and campers to stay in and charities like Samaritan's Purse are doing their best to come up with them. I'm donating what I can and I'm asking others here to please do what they can. Thank you all very much.GlowGirl said:
I am very sorry for what the victims of the Hurricane have to endure. No one should have to live in a tent. And I understand the reluctance to go to a hotel far from home. I really hope they can get some help soon. However, you were berating the fact that we were providing shelter to people in NYC who also need shelter. I was just pointing out that in my opinion there is nothing wrong with giving them shelter. I don’t know much about NC but can other hotels near where people live offer some type of temporary shelter? I do donate to many causes. I will check out your link.shecky said:
***It is very easy to forget the hell that some of our fellow Americans in North Carolina are still induring EVERY day and night since Hurricane Helene struck them in late September 2024. It's COLD outside! We Pearl Jam fans are a relatively well-off group (witness the recent success of the "Mystery Bag" sales at, I believe, $80. a pop, with many people buying multiple bags). There are many ways that YOU can help today. I use and recommend www.samaritanspurse.org. to donate, but please choose whichever mode you are comfortable with and donate today. THANK YOU in advance!GlowGirl said:
I live in NYC and I am ok with this. The people need somewhere to live so they don't have to live on the streets. They need help getting on their feet when they first come here. Maybe, in North Carolina they can open a hotel for their people as well so they don't have to live in tents. There are a lot of foreign investors in NYC real estate, so I doubt this is the only building where rent is being paid to a foreign entity.Choccoloccotide said:You good with this Jose? I’m not. There are people in Western North Carolina living in tents. Why is this acceptable to you?FEMA seems to be very confused why the people of #WNC are choosing to NOT use the hotel vouchers they are handing out... Let me explain: a) You're living in Swannanoa NC when the river rises 22 feet and sweeps away your home and 2 vehicles. b) You have a family of 4 depending on you to make ends meet and work starts back in a few days. c) FEMA hands you a hotel voucher an hour's drive from your now-destroyed home. d) You tell the FEMA rep, "Look, I don't have a car and I can't live in a hotel 40 miles away from work and the home I need to start fixing" e) FEMA says, "Ok, well your temporary home is 3 months away, sorry, so go live in the hotel." f) You say, "If I go live in that hotel, I'll lose my job, I won't be able to repair my home, and everything we've worked so hard for will be gone." g) FEMA says, "We still don't understand why you won't go live in a free hotel." h) You decide to it's actually LESS RISKY to live in a makeshift tent outside of your home and pray a volunteer will deliver you an RV than go live in a hotel an hour away and lose everything. This is what FEMA cannot seem to understand. People are generally very logical, they don't WANT to sleep in tents. Government policies tend to be broadly applied to all situations and the hotel vouchers are just not gonna cut it for a lot of people in #WNC, for the reason I mentioned above.
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