#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

Tim Simmons said:

The thing is. Government is bloated and I hope there are successful cuts that pair down size and costs. The problem is, I don't trust these guys to do it. They are not the best, brightest and most honorable. They are generally thoughtless and cruel. Its shoot first ask questions later, maybe- type of cost reduction. 

Twitter to X is probably the best example of how this is probably gonna go. Sure Elon cut the bloat and made a leaner company. But in doing so, they had months of technical issues, they reversed policies and undid bans, allowing the dialog to turn generally toxic, pushing advertisers away. So OK, maybe Elon has the company hes always wanted to tout free speech. But hes lost (UAE's) Billions, quartered the value of the company and continues to hemorrhage users.

And I think what a lot of MAGA types don't get is, this is all just play stuff to these people (Twitter, Government, etc). They have NOTHING to lose. They already have more than anyone could possibly need. Its the people at the bottom that will lose everything, including the MAGA loyal. 

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

I'm curious how much of that is a net cost. In other words, how much of that is paying salaries that are going to get paid either way, like ICE?

I'm also curious on the math.

• Apprehending and deporting just 1 million people could cost taxpayers about $20 billion.
• Deporting 11 million people over four years would cost more than 20 times what the nation spent a year over the last five years on deporting people living in the U.S. Most of that would be new funding that would have to be approved by a majority of both chambers of Congress.

Why does it cost 20 times the amount to deport 10 times the people? Are they planning on having to pay tons of over time to make it happen in 1 year?

benjs said:

Philly NJ said:

josevolution said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

How much would you be willing to chip in on that $ 20k? 

I don't want to pay one additional penny in taxes for it. There is plenty of government waste that should be identified and ended. No need to raise taxes for deportations. DOGE will identify the taxpayer waste and apply it to deportations if necessary.  That is the plan.   Plus we spend billions a year on feeding and housing illegals. No more of that. Happy days are here again.

Can you elaborate on the bolded?

Philly NJ said:

benjs said:

Philly NJ said:

josevolution said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

How much would you be willing to chip in on that $ 20k? 

I don't want to pay one additional penny in taxes for it. There is plenty of government waste that should be identified and ended. No need to raise taxes for deportations. DOGE will identify the taxpayer waste and apply it to deportations if necessary.  That is the plan.   Plus we spend billions a year on feeding and housing illegals. No more of that. Happy days are here again.

Can you elaborate on the bolded?

Sure, ask the Mayor of NYC about it. I believe the figure for NYC alone is over $1,000,000,000.

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

shecky said:

Actor William Shatner admitted to "Real Time" host Bill Maher that he didn't understand why Vice President Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election, as the pair discussed what went wrong for the Democratic Party on Maher's "Club Random" podcast on Sunday.

Maher opened his show suggesting the left's "intolerance" to Democrats who don't toe the party line on every issue cost them votes this election.

"Conservatives are much more tolerant of people they don’t like. It's the liberals who are purists, especially the ones in this town. They are the ones who say if you don’t agree with me one million percent, I don’t even want to know you. That’s one of the reasons they lost. They have a bad attitude," he told Shatner. 

But Shatner admitted he was baffled by the election results. "I don’t know why Democrats lost. I don’t understand [it]," he said.

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"Club Random" host Bill Maher explained to actor William Shatner why Vice President Harris and the Democratic Party lost the 2024 election. (Getty Images)

Maher argued that President Biden was partly to blame for staying in the race too long.

"That, I understand," Shatner replied. "But inflation? Prices have come down, the economy is good. I don't know why they voted against her, against the party," he said.

Inflation and high costs of living consistently charted as top concerns for voters in polls leading up to the election. 

Maher said that Harris "was not a great candidate" either. 

"Let's be honest," he said. But Shatner defended Harris.

"Why isn't she a great candidate?" he asked. "She combined several trends of thought here. Black, a woman," he offered.

"That’s not a candidate," Maher pushed back. "That’s identity politics."

"But those are elements!" Shatner argued.

Maher conceded that while some voters will vote for a candidate simply because they "look like them," this election proved "you have to go a lot further than that" to win over voters.

"You can’t just be, woman. Black person. I mean, Trump got a quarter of Black men!" Maher said. 

"He didn’t do much better because the women are very much against him but he killed it with Latinos. Is there any great irony that the guy who came down the elevator ten years ago talking about the ‘rapists’ — they keep giving him more of their votes," Maher said, claiming that he understood why Harris lost better than the Democratic Party did.

"Democrats don’t understand their own constituencies. If you are a Mexican-American, who do you fear taking your job? The guy who just came in through the border! Of course they like the guy who says, ‘I’m going to keep everybody out,’" he continued.

"He doesn't say, 'I'm keeping everybody out.' I'm going to send everybody out,'" Shatner disagreed.

Maher insisted that Democrats would have had much better chances at winning the election if they hadn't put in Harris at the last minute.

"If Biden had got out earlier, they had a true primary season to find the best candidate, not just one whose turn it was. By the way, before they anointed her, nobody was sort of on the page that she was very good at being a candidate," he said of Harris.

"She failed the first time," Shatner agreed, referring to the VP's 2019 presidential campaign that didn't make it past the primaries.

Maher also hit the Biden-Harris administration for its "pointless reversal" of Trump's Remain in Mexico policy.

"[They] let in too many people. Not that we shouldn't be a nation of immigrants. But it turned into a lawless a s--- show for years," he said.

This isn't the first time since the election that Maher has reprimanded the Democratic Party for failing to understand its constituents.

Maher opened his first post-election "Real Time" show by telling his party to "look in the mirror" and realize that "woke" policies and a bad candidate lost them the election. He has since scolded his party for "doubling-down" on far-left policies.

The "Real Time" host previously predicted Harris would win the election after the September presidential debate.

Kristine Parks is an associate editor for Fox News Digital. Read more.