#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

Tim Simmons

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

Well hold on. MAGA is just about ideas, not thinking several steps ahead. Thinking ahead is more of a liberal trait.

Tim Simmons

Its amazing to realize that MAGA is just made up of the worst people in your senior year high school civics class with half baked, no real world world experience ideas. 

shecky

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

Yes, it's true. A bargain at three times that cost!

brianlux

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

No kidding.  Shooting oneself in the foot and hating the people who put food on your plate.  Like I said, psychologists are going to have a field day with this shit.

Tim Simmons

shecky said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

Yes, it's true. A bargain at three times that cost!

We get it. No cost is too high to kick out brown people.

Tim Simmons

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

No kidding.  Shooting oneself in the foot and hating the people who put food on your plate.  Like I said, psychologists are going to have a field day with this shit.

Its not that hard. Its just low information people who get fed this propaganda. History is filled with movements of ignorance in the guise of governance and better well being. 

OnWis97

teskeinc said:

OnWis97 said:

The food part of MAHA wasn't looking to good in that airplane photo. RFK looks less than excited to be taking that photo; perhaps he's learning the degree to which he sold his soul to join the Dream Team.

I'm hopeful about MAHA for the possibilities of banning drug commercials and improving our food content. But the latter seems tenuous given the President's diet. I wonder if RFK's going to make it for a long time.

It’s not necessarily the food that is bad it’s the preservatives/dyes etc. and what they use to cook it with that is the problem with a lot of our food. 

I’ve traveled to Europe many times and it’s a noticeable difference in how you feel after you eat. 

RFKs job is to get this shit out of our food. I don’t know how anyone could disagree with that. Regardless of political party, it’s something no one has had a focus on before.

Americans eat ridiculously badly. It's for several reasons. To your first sentence, yeah, we don't ban a lot of things that are banned in European countries. It would be a quick fix but would also go against our cultural norms. European countries tend to favor the collective vs. the individual (and corporations poisoning us count as individuals). So even to address this RFK not only has to contend with American culture but his new party's aversion to regulation. (not to mention the money lining the pockets of legislators in both parties)

But it's still the food. We eat far too much calorie-dense highly processed foods that have been sapped of their nutrients. They advertise themselves as healthy (which we have to allow since the co-president is a free speech absolutist). We don't eat whole foods anymore (in general, of course; some of us do). Our restaurants serve us 2000-calorie meals. 

The crap the Dream Team was eating (I question whether RFK ate it) is too big a part of America's diet. 

Now, you certainly can call "personal responsibility" a part of the equation. But if that's the entire equation, then RFK or anyone, is not going to MAHA. It's going to take regulation to do the basics (like regulation carcinogenic food dyes). As for stopping Big Junk Food from lying to us (as big sugar did decades ago when they put all the blame on fat and the US government did with the grain-heavy food pyramid), that would take us no longer calling money free speech. Because as long as we do, Big Junk Food is going to continue to corrupt our officials, and yes, MAGA is corruptible.

While I think RFK is a bit of a wild card and a bit out there, I actually think he cares about the people; something I don't think in the least for most of the Dream Team. But it's an uphill battle and I'm not sure he's going to be able to navigate doing the right things with kissing the golden shoe.

brianlux

Tim Simmons said:

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

No kidding.  Shooting oneself in the foot and hating the people who put food on your plate.  Like I said, psychologists are going to have a field day with this shit.

Its not that hard. Its just low information people who get fed this propaganda. History is filled with movements of ignorance in the guise of governance and better well being. 

This is one of those times, for sure. 

josevolution

Conservatives lost their minds when Bloomberg wanted to do that soda ban or whatever it was years ago 

josevolution

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

How much would you be willing to chip in on that $ 20k? 

OnWis97

josevolution said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

How much would you be willing to chip in on that $ 20k? 

I'd do the full $20K for Elon. Otherwise, count me out.

Philly NJ

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

Whoever harvested the farms before Harris opened the border.  Your take on this is way off if that is your argument against deporting people that entered this country illegally.

Gern Blansten

Philly NJ said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

Whoever harvested the farms before Harris opened the border.  Your take on this is way off if that is your argument against deporting people that entered this country illegally.

lol...you just don't get it...it's the same people

you realize that trump has undocumented workers at his places right?

Tim Simmons

OnWis97 said:

teskeinc said:

OnWis97 said:

The food part of MAHA wasn't looking to good in that airplane photo. RFK looks less than excited to be taking that photo; perhaps he's learning the degree to which he sold his soul to join the Dream Team.

I'm hopeful about MAHA for the possibilities of banning drug commercials and improving our food content. But the latter seems tenuous given the President's diet. I wonder if RFK's going to make it for a long time.

It’s not necessarily the food that is bad it’s the preservatives/dyes etc. and what they use to cook it with that is the problem with a lot of our food. 

I’ve traveled to Europe many times and it’s a noticeable difference in how you feel after you eat. 

RFKs job is to get this shit out of our food. I don’t know how anyone could disagree with that. Regardless of political party, it’s something no one has had a focus on before.

MAGA is corruptible.

Tim Simmons

josevolution said:

Conservatives lost their minds when Bloomberg wanted to do that soda ban or whatever it was years ago 

We cannot expect intellectual honest and consistency here.

Gern Blansten

josevolution said:

Conservatives lost their minds when Bloomberg wanted to do that soda ban or whatever it was years ago 

Democrat: Hey we should make sure school kids have healthy lunches
MAGA: BBRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!1 know wun telz me wut I kin fed muh kidz!!!!!1

MAGA: Hay we shood make our food beter
Democrat: Jesus christ

josevolution

Philly NJ said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

And who is going to harvest the farms and get the food to your plate? Mass deportation will create a labor shortage in the food industry.  What will that do to food prices?

#trumpflation

Whoever harvested the farms before Harris opened the border.  Your take on this is way off if that is your argument against deporting people that entered this country illegally.

😂😂😂 boy oh boy please get informed 

Tim Simmons

The thing is. Government is bloated and I hope there are successful cuts that pair down size and costs. The problem is, I don't trust these guys to do it. They are not the best, brightest and most honorable. They are generally thoughtless and cruel. Its shoot first ask questions later, maybe- type of cost reduction. 

Twitter to X is probably the best example of how this is probably gonna go. Sure Elon cut the bloat and made a leaner company. But in doing so, they had months of technical issues, they reversed policies and undid bans, allowing the dialog to turn generally toxic, pushing advertisers away. So OK, maybe Elon has the company hes always wanted to tout free speech. But hes lost (UAE's) Billions, quartered the value of the company and continues to hemorrhage users.

And I think what a lot of MAGA types don't get is, this is all just play stuff to these people (Twitter, Government, etc). They have NOTHING to lose. They already have more than anyone could possibly need. Its the people at the bottom that will lose everything, including the MAGA loyal. 

Gern Blansten

Tim Simmons said:

The thing is. Government is bloated and I hope there are successful cuts that pair down size and costs. The problem is, I don't trust these guys to do it. They are not the best, brightest and most honorable. They are generally thoughtless and cruel. Its shoot first ask questions later, maybe- type of cost reduction. 

Twitter to X is probably the best example of how this is probably gonna go. Sure Elon cut the bloat and made a leaner company. But in doing so, they had months of technical issues, they reversed policies and undid bans, allowing the dialog to turn generally toxic, pushing advertisers away. So OK, maybe Elon has the company hes always wanted to tout free speech. But hes lost (UAE's) Billions, quartered the value of the company and continues to hemorrhage users.

And I think what a lot of MAGA types don't get is, this is all just play stuff to these people (Twitter, Government, etc). They have NOTHING to lose. They already have more than anyone could possibly need. Its the people at the bottom that will lose everything, including the MAGA loyal. 

And let's make sure they are aware of the deficits each year...the thing they complain about daily when a Dem is in office but completely ignore when a GOP occupies it.

No caps on cost when you are letting trump fulfill his promises.

Philly NJ

josevolution said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

MAGAs are gonna be pissed when they find out who has to foot the bill of $20,000 per deportation. 

Not sure about that amount, but if it is, it is a bargain.

How much would you be willing to chip in on that $ 20k? 

I don't want to pay one additional penny in taxes for it. There is plenty of government waste that should be identified and ended. No need to raise taxes for deportations. DOGE will identify the taxpayer waste and apply it to deportations if necessary.  That is the plan.   Plus we spend billions a year on feeding and housing illegals. No more of that. Happy days are here again.