#47 - Musk/trump/Vance
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 Right from the Tass homepage:Spurs14 said:Tass???!!! Wow.
 ”Since 1904 TASS has been Russia's leading news agency.”
 At this point, I’m done with responding to this person/bot/troll, and everyone else should be too.Post edited by jerparker20 on0
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 The GOP has been doing it since the patriarch of a family that admittedly gets lots of funding from Russians became its face. Feels like they say “America First” so often to try to convince us…Tim Simmons said:Again, WILD to carry Russia's water.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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            Scary shit"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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 Ah that’s why I missed it, I don’t read Russian news propaganda. No wonder Trump won with this level of fact checkingChoccoloccotide said:
 https://tass.com/politics/1629441/ampnicknyr15 said:Choccoloccotide said:
 A deal was done but he rejected it.Hawk123 said:
 Or maybe he knew there was no negotiating. Do you honestly think Putin would’ve just backed the troops out and left it alone after getting Crimea? He wants the entire country and the Trumps will make sure he gets a significant piece of it since it’s in their best interest to help him out.Choccoloccotide said:
 Zelensky could have ended this war 2 years ago but refused to negotiate. Fast forward to now with a million dead and he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but not for long.Hawk123 said:These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered It’s funny how you make it Zelenskys fault that people are dead. It’s funny how you make it Zelenskys fault that people are dead.
 Yea. Please do share the deal.Tim Simmons said:what was the deal?Post edited by Hawk123 on0
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            Hey man. Trump is angry and vengeful against the same people they want to be angry and vengeful towards. Lay off them!0
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            bootleg said:
 The tragic part is that Harris’ economic policies would have benefited the majority of MAGA more than they would have ever benefited me directly. But I try to look out for others that are less fortunate and understand that a rising tide lifts all boats. But now I’m going to turn inward, protect myself and those that I care about from the damage that is about to come. I’ll be fine, I can ride out the pain and unfortunately it will be MAGA that suffers the most. I hope it was worth “owning the libs”, you know those people that were looking out for you whether you knew it or not.brianlux said:Tim Simmons said:
 I think this is exactly spot on. America as a country decided. We deserve what we get.brianlux said:I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
 I agree, though it's hugely unfortunate that we will all pay the price of electing a hateful dictator. The blowback will be harsh. All but the most wealthy will feel the pinch. People are going to struggle. The question is, will voters who allowed this to happen learn from it? Will they learn to fact check and think critically? Or will they remain ignorant and prone to believing lies? We shall see.Agreed, bootleg. Sadly, I must add that the others who will hurt the most will be migrants and LGBTQ+ folks.And what will suffer most of all, for a time, will be the planet. But the planet is also the strongest. I remember when COVID first hit and people were sheltering in place all over the world. Wildlife flourish in a very short period of time. The air got cleaner everywhere. Nature bats last. But now, with the Felon in charge, the planet will suffer quite a bit for some time and the impact will be great, especially on mammals (I assume everyone here knows humans are mammals). There will be a great need to clean up the mess after these next four years in order to, hopefully, repair some of the damage."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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 it's the entire maga mantra. no matter who fucks it up, it's always the dems that are responsible for cleaning it up.Hawk123 said:
 Or maybe he knew there was no negotiating. Do you honestly think Putin would’ve just backed the troops out and left it alone after getting Crimea? He wants the entire country and the Trumps will make sure he gets a significant piece of it since it’s in their best interest to help him out.Choccoloccotide said:
 Zelensky could have ended this war 2 years ago but refused to negotiate. Fast forward to now with a million dead and he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but not for long.Hawk123 said:These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered It’s funny how you make it Zelenskys fault that people are dead.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 It’s funny how you make it Zelenskys fault that people are dead.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            Not just dems. It’s anyone who doesn’t pledge allegiance to their orange god. Plenty of republicans have been ousted too.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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            Also the idea of Zelinski laughing as he deposits money into a war torn bank is funny.As if the US is just giving him a check of money that he has to sign the back of and cash at a local bank and is not just giving him weapons the military industrial Complex manufactured and the money is staying in the US and going to contractors, manufacturers and their employees while costing the US NO lives and having them fight our ideological enemy of 70 years. Man he owned us. Getting away with it! Egg on our face!Post edited by Tim Simmons on0
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            my god dana bash is a weak chump. If I was interviewing this turd I'd be telling him to shut his mouth and answer the question.
 https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/politics/video/dana-bash-jim-jordan-2024-election-result-fair-sotu-digvidYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            the first indication that Trump is a president for all. HAHAHA
 https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/politics/trump-senate-recess-appointments-gop-leader/index.htmlYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            This may be a lit long for some (I found it worth every minute), and it may have already been posted somewhere here, but this interview between Jon Steward and Heather Cox Richardson is great. I found it hugely helpful. I would venture most everyone here with an open mind and willingness to listen would find it useful as well.
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            I hate to say it but we’re not going to survive the four years of POOTWH being COOTWH with what they’re intending to implement. And given the cult and the total saturation of their “news” sources, there’s no breaking through that haze. Good freaking luck.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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            Nice. They’re killing the fish. They’re killing the birds. They’re killing the whales that live there. Nothing like killing a complete industry, because? Hmmmmmm, I wonder if there’s another marker to put down?
 https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2024/11/10/trump-has-vowed-to-kill-us-offshore-wind-projects-will-he-succeed/
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 Great post glad I watched it but I’m not an optimist I’m a pessimist and believe that now that he has total control & power he will trample any sort of resistance against him like they do in China or Turkey or Russia by brutal force!brianlux said:This may be a lit long for some (I found it on worth every minute), and it may have already been posted somewhere here, but this interview between Jon Steward and Heather Cox Richardson is great. I found it hugely helpful. I would venture most everyone here with an open mind and willingness to listen would find it useful as well.
 so two major red flags
 1- Dismantling of independent news outlets
 2- jailing of journalists and political enemies
 those are the things folks should be looking for!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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            Super telling none of the conservatives here want to answer the questions about Russia0
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 They don't know english, only russian. So they can only re-post talking points. If you ask the question in russian you may get an answer.Tim Simmons said:Super telling none of the conservatives here want to answer the questions about Russiahippiemom = goodness0
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            Let’s just all hope that the left cleans house in the next swedish election.
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 Yeah the worst part is that his victory gives him credence. Just like his first term, it's ok to openly insult LGBTQ+, talk down to women (all women reporters are "nasty" "low IQ", etc) he'll call all immigrants criminals, etc. And it will all be ok because he won.brianlux said:bootleg said:
 The tragic part is that Harris’ economic policies would have benefited the majority of MAGA more than they would have ever benefited me directly. But I try to look out for others that are less fortunate and understand that a rising tide lifts all boats. But now I’m going to turn inward, protect myself and those that I care about from the damage that is about to come. I’ll be fine, I can ride out the pain and unfortunately it will be MAGA that suffers the most. I hope it was worth “owning the libs”, you know those people that were looking out for you whether you knew it or not.brianlux said:Tim Simmons said:
 I think this is exactly spot on. America as a country decided. We deserve what we get.brianlux said:I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
 I agree, though it's hugely unfortunate that we will all pay the price of electing a hateful dictator. The blowback will be harsh. All but the most wealthy will feel the pinch. People are going to struggle. The question is, will voters who allowed this to happen learn from it? Will they learn to fact check and think critically? Or will they remain ignorant and prone to believing lies? We shall see.Agreed, bootleg. Sadly, I must add that the others who will hurt the most will be migrants and LGBTQ+ folks.And what will suffer most of all, for a time, will be the planet. But the planet is also the strongest. I remember when COVID first hit and people were sheltering in place all over the world. Wildlife flourish in a very short period of time. The air got cleaner everywhere. Nature bats last. But now, with the Felon in charge, the planet will suffer quite a bit for some time and the impact will be great, especially on mammals (I assume everyone here knows humans are mammals). There will be a great need to clean up the mess after these next four years in order to, hopefully, repair some of the damage.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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