** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Tim Simmons
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    https://x.com/kevrgordon/status/1839260826168971693?s=61&t=S1Yfg0TIFm_FxsMSTplMmA

    Energy independence Jack! 
  • The Juggler
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    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 


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  • mickeyrat
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    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 




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  • The Juggler
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    mickeyrat said:
    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 




    I just don't get trying to engage meaningfully after someone proves over and over and over again they're full of baloney. lol

    Baloney.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    No one eats bacon anymore, but the investment in clean energy and more drilling and fracking have made impactful gains. Economy is just rolling now. Don’t know why anyone who pays attention to this stuff would want to change course. Pretty soon people will be eating bacon again if they aren’t already. 
  • The Juggler
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    Tim Simmons said:
    No one eats bacon anymore, but the investment in clean energy and more drilling and fracking have made impactful gains. Economy is just rolling now. Don’t know why anyone who pays attention to this stuff would want to change course. Pretty soon people will be eating bacon again if they aren’t already. 
    Lord knows Trump's eating a lot of bacon. 
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  • Tim Simmons
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    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 


    TBH I was bored. 
  • The Juggler
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    Tim Simmons said:
    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 


    TBH I was bored. 
    Claims to be independent yet acts like a hardcore maga twitter troll. It's not worth anyone's time. 
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  • curmudgeoness
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    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 


    I was replying to @cincybearcat because I believe they’re here participating in good faith. Not the troll.

    I’ll be interested in seeing if “I am a capitalist” or Mark Cuban’s support have an impact. I’d like to think that stable leadership in this country would be appealing to business leaders, but who knows?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    teskeinc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    teskeinc said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    teskeinc said:
    Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.

    I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime. 

    When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts. 

    People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.

    where in the constitution does it say that?

    why do you hate america and our founding document so much?
    Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle on 
    No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else. 

    What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe. 

    If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc. 

    And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?

    Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.

    The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us. 
    No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death. 

    Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.
    Says the Indy POOTWH voter. Sorry, but you’ve given up any credibility to judge anyone, never mind Hillary Clinton.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    curmudgeoness said:
    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 


    I was replying to @cincybearcat because I believe they’re here participating in good faith. Not the troll.

    I’ll be interested in seeing if “I am a capitalist” or Mark Cuban’s support have an impact. I’d like to think that stable leadership in this country would be appealing to business leaders, but who knows?
    From Letter From An American:

    Yesterday, more than 400 economists and high-ranking U.S. policymakers endorsed Harris, and today, the members of former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley’s presidential leadership teams in Michigan, Iowa, and Vermont announced they would be supporting Harris, in part because of Trump’s economic policies.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Man. This may be a good economy


  • Merkin Baller
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    Tim Simmons said:
    Man. This may be a good economy


    “I’m voting for the economy”  - ‘independent’ 10C members     

     :D
  • Tim Simmons
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    Is this bad? This seems bad. 



  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tim Simmons said:
    Is this bad? This seems bad. 



    Less than 2% inflation in 2030??!! I’m voting POOTWH! The future is now!
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  • njhaley1
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    Tim Simmons said:
    No one eats bacon anymore, but the investment in clean energy and more drilling and fracking have made impactful gains. Economy is just rolling now. Don’t know why anyone who pays attention to this stuff would want to change course. Pretty soon people will be eating bacon again if they aren’t already. 
    We had bacon for breakfast 🤷🏼‍♂️

    Then again, I drive a fuel efficient car and I don't waste money on red hats and Gadsden flags. 
  • The Juggler
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    curmudgeoness said:
    The Juggler said:
    How many chances are you guys willing to give someone to prove they're a serious person? 


    I was replying to @cincybearcat because I believe they’re here participating in good faith. Not the troll.

    I’ll be interested in seeing if “I am a capitalist” or Mark Cuban’s support have an impact. I’d like to think that stable leadership in this country would be appealing to business leaders, but who knows?
    I would hope so. I saw a cnbc analyst on some show last night sort of insinuate most business leaders do not like Trump but sort of resigned themselves to a second Trump admin after Joe's debate performance. Hopefully they come around. As others are pointing out, our economy has been pretty damn resilient since covid...
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    teskeinc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    teskeinc said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    teskeinc said:
    Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.

    I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime. 

    When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts. 

    People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.

    where in the constitution does it say that?

    why do you hate america and our founding document so much?
    Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle on 
    No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else. 

    What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe. 

    If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc. 

    And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?

    Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.

    The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us. 
    No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death. 

    Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.
    Says the Indy POOTWH voter. Sorry, but you’ve given up any credibility to judge anyone, never mind Hillary Clinton.
    Who are you? What month are you being replaced?
    Why are you afraid of women? Why are you afraid of minorities? Why are you afraid of immigrants? Why are you afraid of being replaced in some month? The hysteria and fear is palatable.
    Palpable, but delicious, too. 
  • cincybearcat
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    Tim Simmons said:
    I think this issue is insanely more complex and nuanced than most of the American public has the time and capacity to deal with. 

    5,000ft level, sure bad people don’t deserve stuff. But there’s the responsibility of our prison system to manage the people in it (to say nothing of what that says about us as a society). Personally it’s the lowest level of responsibility (and I think it’s truly treated that way until it becomes an extreme case) and the fact that it’s an issue that dopes bring up shows how deeply unserious most of the political discourse is in our country is (how many inmates will this truly affect? And we are only addressing it only AFTER a lawsuit?!) Like I said earlier, it’s an outlier on a tail of a graph, yet it’s being applied as if it’s the median.

    but yes, when you look at it simplistically, I can see how liberals lose people.  
    Certainly much bigger fish to fry, but it seems silly to me to just say something only effects a small % of people so why not just have other people pay for it...you could just as easily turn that around.  It benefits so few, don't worry about it and don't do anything.

    I mean if you are using this as your reason to not vote for kamala and instead vote for trump, well that's just stupid, but it doesn't mean the issue itself isn't worth discussing.  Trump has screwed everything up, including people being able to talk ab out single issues without a whole lot of other issue that have no business being discussed along side the issue, being brought up.

    I hate that it seems you have to be either all in for Kamala and all of her positions or else you are a trump troll around here.  
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