** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **
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teskeinc said:Real Clear Politics - on 9/25/24 vs 9/25/20
Arizona
2020 Biden +3.2
2024 Trump +1.7
Nevada
2020 Biden +7.5
2024 Harris +0.4
Wisconsin
2020 Biden +6.6
2024 Harris +0.7
Michigan
2020 Biden +5.2
2024 Harris +1.8
Pennsylvania
2020 Biden +4.3
2024 Harris +0.4
NC
2020 Biden +0.8
2024 Trump +0.7
Georgia
2020 Trump +1.0
2024 Trump +2-1
This is yesterday’s doom and gloom for Harris. Harris has lost any momentum gained from debate. How can she win?If these are the results, Harris steals your 47. As we both know, 2020 polling solidly undercounted Trumps vote. As a result current polls could be overcompensating, especially considering democrats have been outperforming polls since Dobbs. To your point, trump can get to 270 in the east by winning GA NC PA, which is doable.0 -
What month do you figure you’ll be replaced?teskeinc said:
She’s still crying 9 years later. Will never live that down or let it go. She’s an unlikeable scumbag with the same favorability as Kamala had before Obama/Pelosi/Clooney replaced Biden.Halifax2TheMax said:
Let us know what month you'll be replaced, eh? From Hillary's Op-Ed on WaPo:Philly NJ said:
Not voting for Ray Epps and or any member of Antifa.mrussel1 said:
Or... we can vote for someone who encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol. Easy call which is worse.teskeinc said:This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure.
In 2022, an editor at a major American newspaper reached out to ask if I would write an op-ed reflecting on my “basket of deplorables” comment six years on. A gunman in Buffalo had just massacred Black shoppers at a supermarket, reportedly influenced by the racist “great replacement” theory, which had been promoted aggressively by Tucker Carlson on Fox News and embraced by many Republican leaders. The New York Times had published a meticulous investigation finding that, on more than 400 episodes of his top-rated cable news show, Carlson explicitly pushed the incendiary claim that immigrants and people of color are displacing Whites. The newspaper editor said that he and his colleagues spent a half-hour at their editorial meeting talking about this report, and “the notion that the most racist show on cable news is also the most popular stuck with a lot of us.” Several editors, he said, brought up my “deplorables” comment and “how prescient” I had been. Did I want to write an op-ed about it?
Opinion | Hillary Clinton reflects on extremism, hate and what can unite America - The Washington Post
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No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
Hillary's a scumbag and you're voting Trump. That tracks.teskeinc said:
She’s still crying 9 years later. Will never live that down or let it go. She’s an unlikeable scumbag with the same favorability as Kamala had before Obama/Pelosi/Clooney replaced Biden.Halifax2TheMax said:
Let us know what month you'll be replaced, eh? From Hillary's Op-Ed on WaPo:Philly NJ said:
Not voting for Ray Epps and or any member of Antifa.mrussel1 said:
Or... we can vote for someone who encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol. Easy call which is worse.teskeinc said:This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure.
In 2022, an editor at a major American newspaper reached out to ask if I would write an op-ed reflecting on my “basket of deplorables” comment six years on. A gunman in Buffalo had just massacred Black shoppers at a supermarket, reportedly influenced by the racist “great replacement” theory, which had been promoted aggressively by Tucker Carlson on Fox News and embraced by many Republican leaders. The New York Times had published a meticulous investigation finding that, on more than 400 episodes of his top-rated cable news show, Carlson explicitly pushed the incendiary claim that immigrants and people of color are displacing Whites. The newspaper editor said that he and his colleagues spent a half-hour at their editorial meeting talking about this report, and “the notion that the most racist show on cable news is also the most popular stuck with a lot of us.” Several editors, he said, brought up my “deplorables” comment and “how prescient” I had been. Did I want to write an op-ed about it?
Opinion | Hillary Clinton reflects on extremism, hate and what can unite America - The Washington PostIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
Further: Let’s take the example of the Westboro Baptist Church. I had quite the go-round with my more lefty friends over the “church’s” right to make their homophobic public protests. I think those people are sick, and maybe I have a little bit of fun taunting them at pride parades, and maybe the mean little person inside me hopes that they all get flat tires or engine trouble on their way home. But I firmly believe that they have the right to make asses of themselves in public. Why?curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.
Well, it’s easier for me when folks I’d like to avoid identify themselves so clearly. But also — I like to go to the pride parade! And I want to be able to continue to go even though other people might find it disgusting or inappropriate. And I don’t want any government authorities deciding that freedom of expression isn’t *really* meant to apply to those queer people and their allies.
I hope that helps clarify my position. It’s actually rooted in concerns for people who are wrongly imprisoned or wrongly persecuted. I view the trade off as one worth making.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.0 -
Says the Indy POOTWH voter. Sorry, but you’ve given up any credibility to judge anyone, never mind Hillary Clinton.teskeinc said:
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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It’s why I support the right to burn the American flag. And westboro Baptist to protest military funerals. Allow people to show you who they are.curmudgeoness said:
Further: Let’s take the example of the Westboro Baptist Church. I had quite the go-round with my more lefty friends over the “church’s” right to make their homophobic public protests. I think those people are sick, and maybe I have a little bit of fun taunting them at pride parades, and maybe the mean little person inside me hopes that they all get flat tires or engine trouble on their way home. But I firmly believe that they have the right to make asses of themselves in public. Why?curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.
Well, it’s easier for me when folks I’d like to avoid identify themselves so clearly. But also — I like to go to the pride parade! And I want to be able to continue to go even though other people might find it disgusting or inappropriate. And I don’t want any government authorities deciding that freedom of expression isn’t *really* meant to apply to those queer people and their allies.
I hope that helps clarify my position. It’s actually rooted in concerns for people who are wrongly imprisoned or wrongly persecuted. I view the trade off as one worth making.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Who are you? What month are you being replaced?Halifax2TheMax said:
Says the Indy POOTWH voter. Sorry, but you’ve given up any credibility to judge anyone, never mind Hillary Clinton.teskeinc said:
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.0 -
curmudgeoness said:Brian wrote: "And on top of being a criminal, Trump posing as a Christian and a conservative is a bad joke. He uses label to fool his gullible followers."I'm going to reference Andrew Sullivan here, with the caveat that his misogyny/ "big gay blind spot" when it comes to women's issues is truly jaw-dropping. That said, he did have some interesting takes on religion.Specifically, he refers to "Christianism," an extremist, militant distortion of Christianity akin to "Islamism," a radical, distorted version of Islam. The "religion" promoted by MAGA is Christianism, not Christianity. I also do not describe myself as a Christian; I'm a lapsed Presbyterian. I don't disdain religion -- I respect the important role faith plays in many people's lives -- but I've struggled with the concept and consequences of organized religion for my entire life. I view faith and spirituality as highly individualized and even private, by necessity.Anyway. All of that said, I have read the Bible a few times, and I'm able to distinguish between the Old and New Testaments, and I know darn well that the vengeful G-d is in the Old Testament, and Jesus never said, if someone punches you, punch back twice as hard. Jesus was the original social justice warrior, not a Bible-wielding Rambo. He healed the sick, fed the hungry, cared for the least among us. In other words, in the language of MAGA, he was a cuck, a lib, a snowflake.Actual Christians, who have read the Bible and heed Jesus's message, welcome refugees and Haitian immigrants, would never think of withholding care from a woman experiencing a miscarriage, feed the homeless, care for their pets. I've met these people, they're out there, not making headlines, just living their lives and doing the right thing.^^^ I love all of this, C, it's so spot on.I was born and raised in a Presbyterian church myself. Some people in later years referred to us as "the frozen chosen". I always laughed it off because they saw meek as being weak and, OK, true, we weren't Bible thumpers, but our church was always really into helping people. We were also one of the early churches to ordain women and we had some fine women pastors. We supported gay rights early on. We fed and where possible, sheltered the homeless. We sang stuff like, "Jesus loves me, this I know," and "Whether yellow, black, or white, they are precious in His sight." What's not to like about all that?I dropped out of church in the late 60s in my late teens to early 20s, and though drugs never got me closer to God, they did help me to escape from the social demise going on all around us at the time.By the mid 70s, I became part of what was referred to by some as "the Jesus freak movement". I never used the term myself, but it was all about getting to know what Jesus was about and learning yet again how to be helpful. When the plate was passed around, you gave what you could, and if you were hungry or needy, you took some money. It was all about capital L-Love.But then the Dogma squad took things over again and I was lost for awhile until punk rock saved my life.And so now here many of us are, in many ways alone and isolated save for our cell phones and forums and Facebook and what not. Where is God? He/She/It sure as hell does not dwell in the house of evil people who want only to fuel their own and other's anger, feed their own selfish ego-ridden souls, and spread their lies.God is where you can find the divine. For me, I find God in a vacuum tube, and in the occasional perfect harmonic sustain of feedback. God is the the pages of a particular good book (and by that I mean an honest book written for the purpose of art, not commerce). I find God in the kind words of a loved one or a true friend (of which I have very few). And with out a doubt, God is in that bundle of black fur named Annie who purrs deeply enough at times to save both our souls.All I can say to all that in all sincerity is, Hallefuckinlujah!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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https://www.threads.net/@pinkmingo/post/DAW6axJSLo3/?xmt=AQGzNARjr6PtYatup_E7Qk6ufW-7Nb6FpJfqCdfDy5TyGAThis is funny but you know our MAGA friends won’t see how 1+1=2jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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teskeinc said:
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.
why do you hate the Constitution?
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This doesn’t make us any better than them then.teskeinc said:
Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.0 -
cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?no part of that statement suggests whay you assert.As I understand it , the courts have declared certain gender affirming treatments be made available as a matter of law. If you'll recall chelsea manning had yet to begin any kind of treatment prior to be incarcerated at leavenworth. shecwent to court where it wss ordeted she could begin treatment while incarcerated BUT the government wouldn't cover the costs it would have to be provately fundrd and gov dr administered.now to this specific inmate, I dont know the full story, not just of the crime nor any treatment either , that may have been in place prior to conviction. since I dont believe that particular poster is credible and they chose to not link any credible news outlet , I will not be taking his/her word for it.curmudgeoness laid out beautifully in several posts what I believe.Back in October 1988 prior to bootcamp, we swore the oath of enlistment, twice. I did not understand then , just what that meant. I came to understand much much later. There are many things about our system and the way certain things are, I would prefer changed. Best I can hope for is that change occurs through the exercise of my vote. Until then I need to fully respect for others the same rights I hold dear for myself . now having reread that oath, I note there is no expiration date on that, so as far I am concerned , I feel bound to that to this day.As you may or may not recall, I laid out for you my beliefs surrounding abortion several years ago. that where I might be involved, I'm not sure I could agree unless something devastating was occuring with the pregnancy. but I know my input there is limited. So while I might not choose that path, its not my place to impose that belief on others. So I am pro-choice or rather more truthfully I am pro-none of my fucking business unless I am invloved, pro-autonomy if you will.back to the case at hand. With limited knowledge, I would agree with hormone therapy even if it begins while incarcerated paid for by the government. not sure how I feel about surgical intervention in what can be argued is elective. but like Manning, if privately funded, who I am to argue? such a thing could lend itself to a more readily rehabilitated inmate, which is supposed to be a goal is it not?this country is fantastic in its designed intent. we still havent gotten close to fulfilling that intent. it relies on our better selves. far too many operate from their baser selfish selves._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I’m just unburdened by what has been.mickeyrat said:teskeinc said:
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.
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Anyway. Solid economic policy speech yesterday. The tax credits will go a long way for families to say nothing of it being the only reasonable (and non weird) way to help promote the American birth rate.0
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It's also common sense not to vote for a xenophobic, racist, misogynist, election denying, insurrection inciting felon, but you know, the economy and border or something, something bullshit.teskeinc said:
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Derangement syndrome indeed.0
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haha, I was literally just about to ask this exact same questionmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:
No. You use common sense. Screw the baby killers rights. He should be sentenced to death.curmudgeoness said:
No. What I’m saying is, when we start carving out exceptions, it weakens the protections for everyone else.cincybearcat said:
Are we seriously saying that a convicted murderer of a baby deserves to have transgender surgery? Seriously? This is the bullshit liberals lose the middle onmickeyrat said:teskeinc said:Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.where in the constitution does it say that?why do you hate america and our founding document so much?What this person *deserves* is to sit in prison for another fifty years. But convicted felons in this country still have certain rights, and arguing that this monster doesn’t have access to those rights because we find their crime particularly repugnant will make other, less reprehensible people, less safe.If we argue that this person doesn’t have the right to gender affirming surgery (and I think it will be an easy argument to make that they have gender dysphoria, along with a steamer trunk full of other issues), then that opens the door to future arguments that other prisoners don’t merit treatment for cancer or diabetes, etc.
And once we’ve established the precedent that the rights provided by law don’t really apply to certain people, what’s to prevent unlawful imprisonment, absence of habeas corpus, etc.?
Years ago, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, IL. It wasn’t because they thought Nazis had interesting ideas; it was because freedom of expression must be guaranteed to everyone, including people most decent folks would consider to be pieces of shit.
The laws need to apply equally to everyone. It’s in the greater interest of law-abiding, decent people to protect the rights of the worst among us, to prevent authorities from using the system to punish and control the rest of us.Kamala defends this and is fighting for these scumbags. She’s a disgusting human being.
why do you hate the Constitution?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
With the way the economy is now, if you institute these plans, the future for America looks incredibly prosperous .
https://prospect.org/economy/2024-09-26-harris-manufacturing-agenda-fact-sheet/
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