Missoula setlist leaked??
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 no but do you need it explained why things change?PJNB said:
 Do you really need it explained to you...?Gern Blansten said:
 so what?PJNB said:BF25394 said:
 You made a comment about the number of songs being played at every show. I stated a fact about the number of songs that have been played at every show. That's not spin. It's an inconvenient fact, and you responded by moving the goalpost. You could have replied, "Yeah, they've played three songs at every show this year, but they only played one song at every show in 2022." I don't think that's a meaningful difference, but we could agree to disagree. Instead, you decided to accuse me of being disingenuous.PJNB said:
 The top 20th most played song this tour is played 8 out of 17 shows.BF25394 said:
 There are three songs that have been played at every show this year.PJNB said:The number of unique songs is great and likely always will be with this band.
 The issue is the number of songs that are making every show vs how many have made every show in the past.
 75% of the show is pretty much locked out of those 113 songs with little room of variation between shows.
 You would have to see the whole tour to get that variety when in the past 3 shows would give you so many more unique songs.
 The 20th most played song in 2022 was played 10 out of 33 shows.
 It is not even close no matter how you want to keep spinning it.Almost every show then. Better?You keep defending the variety of sets like nothing has changed.Look at the stats on the top 20 songs played. Again it’s not even close to 2 years ago.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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 Not if the setlist is accurate lol!lastexitlondon said:This thread will be dead in 8 hours. Just let it be0
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            Doubt it’s the setlist. Ed doesn’t write them in that style of penmanship anymore. Probably a setlist generator deal (is that still available?) of what has been played in Missoula plus DM songs. We’ll see…0
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            By the time they reach Chicago there will be a unique setlist shirt for each of the six days of merch sales.___________________________________________
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            All I know is I’m going to be grinning ear to ear when the opening notes of Release start playing as the lights go down.0
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 During the show?MikeDigs said:^Exactly. Sell the shirt during / after the show, and they could have just blurred the images of the shirt on social media. This would have been ideal. With all the merchaholics, there would be a mass exodus mid show once word got out about a setlist shirt on sale now at the merch stands.                         0 With all the merchaholics, there would be a mass exodus mid show once word got out about a setlist shirt on sale now at the merch stands.                         0
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 Lol, "merchaholics" that's great. I was thinking that a few people would go just to beat the post-show lines. But they def should have blurred the image of the shirt before the show.hihobibo said:
 During the show?MikeDigs said:^Exactly. Sell the shirt during / after the show, and they could have just blurred the images of the shirt on social media. This would have been ideal. With all the merchaholics, there would be a mass exodus mid show once word got out about a setlist shirt on sale now at the merch stands. I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning0 With all the merchaholics, there would be a mass exodus mid show once word got out about a setlist shirt on sale now at the merch stands. I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning0
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 Could Ed not have written the setlist on a different sheet of paper, given it to someone, then they typed it up using the setlist font? The seattle 2018 is written in the same style which is when they started doing them and if you look at the real setlist its different penmanship.Spurs14 said:Doubt it’s the setlist. Ed doesn’t write them in that style of penmanship anymore. Probably a setlist generator deal (is that still available?) of what has been played in Missoula plus DM songs. We’ll see…Post edited by Brisk. on0
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 It probably came across wrong but I meant lucky in the sense of what we’ve had from this band for so long, go see another major band and I could probably find the ‘copy and paste’ setlist used all tour.Brisk. said:
 I don't know how it is lucky to find out the set before the show. PJ ain't about fireworks and laser beams etc, their whole 'jam' has been about just walking on stage and playing whatever the hell, so to go against this principal of playing more rigid sets (pre-determined many days in advance) is just rubbing fans up the wrong way. But as time goes by and people get older, I guess this is just the way it goes.Force Of Nature said:I love how lucky we are as fans that a (possible) setlist leaked a couple days before a show and it causes this kind of uproar. Not many major bands change it up like Pearl Jam so the odd thing here and there throughout a career isn't a big deal to me (although I'm not going to the show so may feel different if I was there).
 If it isn't the setlist, then I agree its an odd shirt choice like "oh hey, nice shirt, how was DOC live?", "oh, they didnt play it at the show, its just on the setlist tshirt".....
 For what its worth, I think this was the real setlist intended for the show but wouldnt be totally surprised to see something different now, even an intended setlist can change throughout the night anyway
 It is just a bit weird to think someone went up to EV and said 'please can you write the setlist for missoula now because we want to print it on the back of a shirt to sell before the show'.
 and regarding setlists, I thought I read that over recent years the set lists are not written day or show but before the tour, maybe tinkered with on the day but generally done in advance.0
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 It’s Jeff’s handwriting and yup just a mashup of what’s been played to date. Not tonight’s set.Spurs14 said:Doubt it’s the setlist. Ed doesn’t write them in that style of penmanship anymore. Probably a setlist generator deal (is that still available?) of what has been played in Missoula plus DM songs. We’ll see…To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
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 boom! crisis avoided. lol100 Pacer said:
 It’s Jeff’s handwriting and yup just a mashup of what’s been played to date. Not tonight’s set.Spurs14 said:Doubt it’s the setlist. Ed doesn’t write them in that style of penmanship anymore. Probably a setlist generator deal (is that still available?) of what has been played in Missoula plus DM songs. We’ll see…I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            Doctor Strange: I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming concert.
 Star-Lord : How many did you see?
 Doctor Strange : Fourteen million, six hundred and five.
 Tony Stark: How many had this setlist?
 Doctor Strange: One.May your days be long, til kingdom come.0
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            Hahahah love that.0
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 I don't think you're taking into account that they are touring behind a new album and committed to playing the songs from that album, or at least that was the approach they took on the first leg, with a third of the set made up of Dark Matter songs across the first ten non-festival shows. They weren't doing that in 2022 once Matt got COVID and they had to deemphasize Gigaton.PJNB said:BF25394 said:
 You made a comment about the number of songs being played at every show. I stated a fact about the number of songs that have been played at every show. That's not spin. It's an inconvenient fact, and you responded by moving the goalpost. You could have replied, "Yeah, they've played three songs at every show this year, but they only played one song at every show in 2022." I don't think that's a meaningful difference, but we could agree to disagree. Instead, you decided to accuse me of being disingenuous.PJNB said:
 The top 20th most played song this tour is played 8 out of 17 shows.BF25394 said:
 There are three songs that have been played at every show this year.PJNB said:The number of unique songs is great and likely always will be with this band.
 The issue is the number of songs that are making every show vs how many have made every show in the past.
 75% of the show is pretty much locked out of those 113 songs with little room of variation between shows.
 You would have to see the whole tour to get that variety when in the past 3 shows would give you so many more unique songs.
 The 20th most played song in 2022 was played 10 out of 33 shows.
 It is not even close no matter how you want to keep spinning it.Almost every show then. Better?You keep defending the variety of sets like nothing has changed.Look at the stats on the top 20 songs played. Again it’s not even close to 2 years ago.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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 Wait, there was a crisis with Boom? I'm glad he's O.K.mcgruff10 said:
 boom! crisis avoided. lol100 Pacer said:
 It’s Jeff’s handwriting and yup just a mashup of what’s been played to date. Not tonight’s set.Spurs14 said:Doubt it’s the setlist. Ed doesn’t write them in that style of penmanship anymore. Probably a setlist generator deal (is that still available?) of what has been played in Missoula plus DM songs. We’ll see…I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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