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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    So why is there such a disparity of gas prices 2008-2016 Obama 2016-2020 Trump and Biden 2020-2024? 

    Only coincidence that demand was less those 4 years during Trump? Demand was less during 2020 lockdowns for sure but not 2016-2019.

    Transportation costs are what has been the driver of inflation during 2021-present. Is it just corporate greed then? That was a campaign promise of Biden and now Harris. To go after them, make them pay their fair share, or was that just something else they didn’t deliver.

    The country should not be importing from OPEC or anyone else. Why not allow unlimited drilling and regulate the oil companies? Allow them to export. Lower all Americans costs? Seems like a logical solution. 
    Lots of factors but mainly the price per barrel which is dependent on global production, reserve releases and OPEC. Wars in the Middle East don’t help. 


    I think affixing the price of gas to a President is a bit of a fools errand seeing that other than releasing American reserves, they don’t have much input on the price. It’s like asking why did  X sports team not win a championship during their admin. 


    Energy policies are a factor. I think we could produce enough oil for ourselves and to export. Lowering the price per barrel and making OPEC sweat. And OPEC should never tell the US they are slowing production either. The President should tell the Saudis we are slowing the sale of weapons and might be slowing the protection if let’s say Iran wants to start trouble. 
    Why do you think ExxonMobil, Shell and the others want to sell oil for fewer dollars per barrel?  They exist to maximize shareholder value, not to give you cheap gas.  


    More leases, more production, bigger market share. While undercutting OPEC, lowers transportation costs and inflation for all of us. The demand doesn’t increase or decrease enough to justify national averages $2-$5 over a few years.
    Domestic oil production is already at a record high. Are you ignoring this because it kills your theory about gas prices?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,472
    oil companies aren't drilling on all the leases they have already secured. what will more leases do?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    oil companies aren't drilling on all the leases they have already secured. what will more leases do?
    Something about the future because the future because if you don’t plan for the future the future will be unknown and the future will be scary and uncertain so the future is now because you better believe in the future and so the future is important now that’s why the future sucks and is horrible under a future with Kamaaaaaaala future and when we had the future it was perfect like Star Wars and a future of a thousand years maybe nine hundred we’ll see but a bright shiny future for all to see and it’ll be perfect again the future because the future is as the future does and you have to have a future of the future. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,128
    Kamala Harris
    did you all hear that kamala's rally crowds are fake?

    trump tweeted that her crowds are fake, per an airport worker, and that the people there are AI generated AND paid.

    how can they be both?

    trump has lost what was left of his brain.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 877
    Kamala Harris
    Tim Simmons said:

    Totally radical 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Kamala Harris
    Go Beavers said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    So why is there such a disparity of gas prices 2008-2016 Obama 2016-2020 Trump and Biden 2020-2024? 

    Only coincidence that demand was less those 4 years during Trump? Demand was less during 2020 lockdowns for sure but not 2016-2019.

    Transportation costs are what has been the driver of inflation during 2021-present. Is it just corporate greed then? That was a campaign promise of Biden and now Harris. To go after them, make them pay their fair share, or was that just something else they didn’t deliver.

    The country should not be importing from OPEC or anyone else. Why not allow unlimited drilling and regulate the oil companies? Allow them to export. Lower all Americans costs? Seems like a logical solution. 
    Lots of factors but mainly the price per barrel which is dependent on global production, reserve releases and OPEC. Wars in the Middle East don’t help. 


    I think affixing the price of gas to a President is a bit of a fools errand seeing that other than releasing American reserves, they don’t have much input on the price. It’s like asking why did  X sports team not win a championship during their admin. 


    Energy policies are a factor. I think we could produce enough oil for ourselves and to export. Lowering the price per barrel and making OPEC sweat. And OPEC should never tell the US they are slowing production either. The President should tell the Saudis we are slowing the sale of weapons and might be slowing the protection if let’s say Iran wants to start trouble. 
    Why do you think ExxonMobil, Shell and the others want to sell oil for fewer dollars per barrel?  They exist to maximize shareholder value, not to give you cheap gas.  


    More leases, more production, bigger market share. While undercutting OPEC, lowers transportation costs and inflation for all of us. The demand doesn’t increase or decrease enough to justify national averages $2-$5 over a few years.
    Domestic oil production is already at a record high. Are you ignoring this because it kills your theory about gas prices?
    Hey! Whoa! Now...slow down just a minute, fella. You're not accusing our maga friend of making a...a disingenuous argument, now are ya?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Kamala Harris
    The Juggler said:
    Go Beavers said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    So why is there such a disparity of gas prices 2008-2016 Obama 2016-2020 Trump and Biden 2020-2024? 

    Only coincidence that demand was less those 4 years during Trump? Demand was less during 2020 lockdowns for sure but not 2016-2019.

    Transportation costs are what has been the driver of inflation during 2021-present. Is it just corporate greed then? That was a campaign promise of Biden and now Harris. To go after them, make them pay their fair share, or was that just something else they didn’t deliver.

    The country should not be importing from OPEC or anyone else. Why not allow unlimited drilling and regulate the oil companies? Allow them to export. Lower all Americans costs? Seems like a logical solution. 
    Lots of factors but mainly the price per barrel which is dependent on global production, reserve releases and OPEC. Wars in the Middle East don’t help. 


    I think affixing the price of gas to a President is a bit of a fools errand seeing that other than releasing American reserves, they don’t have much input on the price. It’s like asking why did  X sports team not win a championship during their admin. 


    Energy policies are a factor. I think we could produce enough oil for ourselves and to export. Lowering the price per barrel and making OPEC sweat. And OPEC should never tell the US they are slowing production either. The President should tell the Saudis we are slowing the sale of weapons and might be slowing the protection if let’s say Iran wants to start trouble. 
    Why do you think ExxonMobil, Shell and the others want to sell oil for fewer dollars per barrel?  They exist to maximize shareholder value, not to give you cheap gas.  


    More leases, more production, bigger market share. While undercutting OPEC, lowers transportation costs and inflation for all of us. The demand doesn’t increase or decrease enough to justify national averages $2-$5 over a few years.
    Domestic oil production is already at a record high. Are you ignoring this because it kills your theory about gas prices?
    Hey! Whoa! Now...slow down just a minute, fella. You're not accusing our maga friend of making a...a disingenuous argument, now are ya?
    What's worse is the fundamental lack of understanding of basic economics.  
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    The Juggler said:
    Go Beavers said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    So why is there such a disparity of gas prices 2008-2016 Obama 2016-2020 Trump and Biden 2020-2024? 

    Only coincidence that demand was less those 4 years during Trump? Demand was less during 2020 lockdowns for sure but not 2016-2019.

    Transportation costs are what has been the driver of inflation during 2021-present. Is it just corporate greed then? That was a campaign promise of Biden and now Harris. To go after them, make them pay their fair share, or was that just something else they didn’t deliver.

    The country should not be importing from OPEC or anyone else. Why not allow unlimited drilling and regulate the oil companies? Allow them to export. Lower all Americans costs? Seems like a logical solution. 
    Lots of factors but mainly the price per barrel which is dependent on global production, reserve releases and OPEC. Wars in the Middle East don’t help. 


    I think affixing the price of gas to a President is a bit of a fools errand seeing that other than releasing American reserves, they don’t have much input on the price. It’s like asking why did  X sports team not win a championship during their admin. 


    Energy policies are a factor. I think we could produce enough oil for ourselves and to export. Lowering the price per barrel and making OPEC sweat. And OPEC should never tell the US they are slowing production either. The President should tell the Saudis we are slowing the sale of weapons and might be slowing the protection if let’s say Iran wants to start trouble. 
    Why do you think ExxonMobil, Shell and the others want to sell oil for fewer dollars per barrel?  They exist to maximize shareholder value, not to give you cheap gas.  


    More leases, more production, bigger market share. While undercutting OPEC, lowers transportation costs and inflation for all of us. The demand doesn’t increase or decrease enough to justify national averages $2-$5 over a few years.
    Domestic oil production is already at a record high. Are you ignoring this because it kills your theory about gas prices?
    Hey! Whoa! Now...slow down just a minute, fella. You're not accusing our maga friend of making a...a disingenuous argument, now are ya?
    Turns out reactionary grievance peddling isn’t actual policy. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    edited August 2024



    ”b-b-but tampon tim”
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Kamala Harris
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,648
    Kamala Harris
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

    image

    😂😂 who vetted him three toes MTG but but Waltz 
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Kamala Harris
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

    image


    I liked "Couching Tiger, Hidden Drag Queen," personally.
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    curmudgeoness said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

    image


    I liked "Couching Tiger, Hidden Drag Queen," personally.
    Great! Now this guy is going to be a hero to all Democrats. Can we ask what pronouns JD is comfortable with? Tampon Tim is surely inviting JD to Minnesota. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,128
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

    image


    I liked "Couching Tiger, Hidden Drag Queen," personally.
    Great! Now this guy is going to be a hero to all Democrats. Can we ask what pronouns JD is comfortable with? Tampon Tim is surely inviting JD to Minnesota. 
    at least "tampon tim" has done something in his life to help someone other than himself...
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,648
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

    image


    I liked "Couching Tiger, Hidden Drag Queen," personally.
    Great! Now this guy is going to be a hero to all Democrats. Can we ask what pronouns JD is comfortable with? Tampon Tim is surely inviting JD to Minnesota. 
    How long before he’s kicked to the curb? low low energy did you see him yesterday morning on FTN 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    teskeinc said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm glad to know that dressing in drag is now acceptable in the GOP.  Gonna be lots more of this sort of stuff once Iran starts leaking the oppo research!  

    BTW - love the eyeliner.  Glad he kept it in the look. This is trending under #SofaLoren

    https://x.com/mattxiv/status/1822675676295536832/photo/1

    image


    I liked "Couching Tiger, Hidden Drag Queen," personally.
    Great! Now this guy is going to be a hero to all Democrats. Can we ask what pronouns JD is comfortable with? Tampon Tim is surely inviting JD to Minnesota. 
    Why are you like this
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,617
    Kamala Harris
    Liberal persecution complex combined with not having the juice to make coherent arguments. 


    Or it’s a bit, which is even sadder. 
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Kamala Harris

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    @teskeinc
    I'm still awaiting your answer on why Donald Trump killed the bipartisan border bill. Why does Trump want open borders?
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