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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    teskeinc said:
    Go Beavers said:
    The Juggler said:
    teskeinc said:
    josevolution said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.
    Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

    Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention. 
    On both the economy and the border, Harris can pretty much flip both to point out his failures in each category. 
    Inflation is 20% since 2021. Over 10 million have illegally crossed as well. How do you flip that? Polls show overwhelmingly on who handles both issues better and it’s Trump, not even close. The last thing the Dems want to talk about are those issues. That’s why Dems pivot to abortion, always a win for them.
    Polls often times don’t reflect reality. Something POOTWH supporters aren’t living in.
    The reality is Inflation is +20% since Biden/Harris took office. Gas prices are significantly higher, interest rates are 3x higher, 10+ million illegals have crossed the border under their watch. Wars were started in Ukraine and Gaza under Biden/Harris. 

    Emotional voters (90% here) are looking for a friend in a President. You can spin all those statistics if you want and blame Trump but all that was under Biden/Harris. If they did a great job, Biden would have been a shoe in like Obama in 2012. Reality is they did a terrible job, that’s why the race is tight.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjhawks said:
    josevolution said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    I want her to call him a liar and a felon in the debates. See his head explode and completely lose his shit.  How do you defeat a bully.  Punch him in the damn nose,  be aggressive against him
    I just hope he brings up the talking point he occasionally uses about Democrats wanting convicted felons to vote so that she can reply, "That's right, Donald, we do support your right to vote."
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,613
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. Gas prices are averaging what they were a decade ago. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, our military are not active in any war for the first time in over 20 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,613
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    Also, gonna need you back up that stat that 90% of posters here are “emotional”. 

    You make very bizarre generalizations.
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Tim Simmons said:
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, we are not active in any war for the first time in over 25 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
    Keep on spinning buddy! Maddow should have you as a special guest!
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,613
    Kamala Harris
    Facts are spin now? 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,613
    Kamala Harris
    Also, again with the weird generalizations. Maddow is your parry?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,485
    Kamala Harris
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, we are not active in any war for the first time in over 25 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
    Keep on spinning buddy! Maddow should have you as a special guest!
    You should work for the Trump team you fit perfectly! Better than what he has doing his PR these days 😂 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Kamala Harris
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    20 year low gas prices because of Covid? Wasn’t Trump President for 3 years prior? Or those don’t count? 
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    Go find your safe space Sparky!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    Go find your safe space Sparky!
    i don't need one. 


    this really isn't going well for you, is it?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 877
    Kamala Harris
    josevolution said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, we are not active in any war for the first time in over 25 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
    Keep on spinning buddy! Maddow should have you as a special guest!
    You should work for the Trump team you fit perfectly! Better than what he has doing his PR these days 😂 
    Not attractive enough, needs more eyeliner. 
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
    Go find your safe space Sparky!
    i don't need one. 


    this really isn't going well for you, is it?
    😂😂😂 All comedy my friend. I’ve got people posting 4 pages defending Tampon Tim. Another couple pages of people trying to defend Biden/Harris record to 99% radical left supporters! 😂😂😂😂 What isn’t going well?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    20 year low gas prices because of Covid? Wasn’t Trump President for 3 years prior? Or those don’t count? 
    here is a link showing average gas prices in the US throughout history.

    please refer to the time between 2016 and 2020. gas prices were higher prior to that because we were in actual wars in the middle east. that settled down by the time trump was in office and then we started producing our own oil.

    look when covid hit and the drastic decrease in price because demand was not there. remember when a barrel of oil cost less than 10 dollars? so yes, a 20 year low in gas prices due to covid.

    gas today is still less expensive than it was under obama.

    https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/average-gas-prices-through-history/
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,613
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    20 year low gas prices because of Covid? Wasn’t Trump President for 3 years prior? Or those don’t count? 
    Sorry.  I was wrong. Gas prices were lower under Obama, averaging $2.14 a gallon by 2016. Covid was the second lowest between 2005 and 2024. They increased at the start of the Trump admin. The lack of anyone driving during Covid in 2020 gave us the lowest prices since Obama and then 2004 before that. But had it not been for that I’d posit gas prices would have been consistent at 2018/19 levels until Russia invaded Ukraine.

    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    The country is slowly transitioning to electric vehicle and solar. The infrastructure just isn’t there or affordability for most Americans. Wouldn’t a policy of producing our own oil vs relying on importing from Middle East and Venezuela for say the next 15-20 years keeping transportation costs lower and lowering inflation all while building the infrastructure to transition to all electric be a more prudent policy for the country?

    We supposedly have more oil reserves than anywhere in the world in Alaska.


  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784

  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 877
    Kamala Harris
    Dunno, we sure seem to be trying - domestic oil production is higher now than at any point under TFG. 

    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m
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