Will we ever see a show of 30 songs again?

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


    Should have checked before I posted lol. Was going off memory 6 years ago. The guy next to me with the set said it was 29 songs.

    Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,793
    True. Gonna see my friend is great live. 
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    Wondering if it is a matter of not wanting to do a set of 30 or more songs or not being able to do it physically. 

    I remember going from 32-36 songs to 21-25 was whiplash. I figured they would still be performing 30 songs and two encores and were 5-7 years away from 22-25. 

    The Stones are in their 80's and playing 20 songs a night. 
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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


    Should have checked before I posted lol. Was going off memory 6 years ago. The guy next to me with the set said it was 29 songs.

    Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
    According to the FanViews for that show, they went on stage at 9:30 and played until 11:57. They got permission to go over curfew but only until midnight. Night 1 they went on about 8 and played til 11. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


    Should have checked before I posted lol. Was going off memory 6 years ago. The guy next to me with the set said it was 29 songs.

    Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
    According to the FanViews for that show, they went on stage at 9:30 and played until 11:57. They got permission to go over curfew but only until midnight. Night 1 they went on about 8 and played til 11. 
    Hopefully the ballparks still get more. 

    Would have been interesting too see how many songs London would have gotten. 
  • Discopij
    Discopij Posts: 480
    30 seems like a bar too high unfortunately … I’m hoping for 27 without having to rely on eruptions and I’m opens to get there
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    edited July 2024
    I don't think a "3 min fast rock-song" type of band need to be out there for 35 songs. 25-27 is enough is enough for me. Or whatever it takes to be out there for 2h40m.

    What they should do is to loosen the strict staple-backbone a bit. 

    Play Do the evolution once every third show instead of every show. Have Animal rotate in instead, and Big Wave, Hail Hail and Brain of J.
    Play Evenflow every third show and rotate in other songs.
    Play Black every maybe five shows and rotate in other ballads.
    Find other Neil Young songs to play mid-set instead of having RITFW at the end.

    THE ROTATION IS KEY. And not getting so damn staple-strict. More so than the amount of songs, in my opinion.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,120
    evenflow82 said:
    Wondering if it is a matter of not wanting to do a set of 30 or more songs or not being able to do it physically. 

    I remember going from 32-36 songs to 21-25 was whiplash. I figured they would still be performing 30 songs and two encores and were 5-7 years away from 22-25. 

    The Stones are in their 80's and playing 20 songs a night. 
    I think it's mostly physical. Try to preserve Ed's voice as much as they can.  And Matt was quoted (I think around the time Taylor Hawkins passed) how physically exhausting it was doing shows that long. He said he would hit his limit, look at the setlist, and see that they still had 6-7 songs to go. It's possible Ed or one of the other guys got covid during lockdown and they just all agreed not to overdo it upon their return. And now it's the new normal. 

    I also wonder if they feel like they had to keep doing it? Not many of their peers were playing 30+ songs per night. Obviously bad timing with ticket prices going up and show length going down lol.  
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,925
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't think a "3 min fast rock-song" type of band need to be out there for 35 songs. 25-27 is enough is enough for me. Or whatever it takes to be out there for 2h40m.

    What they should do is to loosen the strict staple-backbone a bit. 

    Play Do the evolution once every third show instead of every show. Have Animal rotate in instead, and Big Wave, Hail Hail and Brain of J.
    Play Evenflow every third show and rotate in other songs.
    Play Black every maybe five shows and rotate in other ballads.
    Find other Neil Young songs to play mid-set instead of having RITFW at the end.

    THE ROTATION IS KEY. And not getting so damn staple-strict. More so than the amount of songs, in my opinion.
    100% agree with all of this 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


    What song was scratched next to rain?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,120
    Looks like Even Flow but that would be the 3rd time on the list lol
  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    just_one said:
    no , never.

    its pretty clear when Ed caught covid in 2020/2021 it was pretty dead serious and it left his immune system pretty bang up. thats why he gets sick pretty easily (see cancel shows in europe 2022 and 2024).


    WAIT! Are you the doctor of Edoardo? :D 
    "I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
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  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    edited July 2024
    2031. 
    "I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
    pearljamonline.it
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    mcgruff10 said:
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


    What song was scratched next to rain?  Looks like Eruption.
    I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
    -Christopher Walken

    you're=you are
    your=showing ownership

    The truth has a well known liberal bias.
    -Stephen Colbert
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    evenflow82 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    SHZA said:
    PJNB said:
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    Go Animal said:
    SHZA said:
    It's over 
    The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
    Last Wrigley had 29
    Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain 
    I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set. 
    A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1 


    What song was scratched next to rain?  Looks like Eruption.
    It clearly says "FLOW"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,925
    Even flow


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    Three-ven-flow!
    I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
    -Christopher Walken

    you're=you are
    your=showing ownership

    The truth has a well known liberal bias.
    -Stephen Colbert
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,793
    Never heard Cnumb. B side ;) 

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