Will we ever see a show of 30 songs again?

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  • just_onejust_one Posts: 2,130
    raindog80 said:
    just_one said:
    no , never.

    its pretty clear when Ed caught covid in 2020/2021 it was pretty dead serious and it left his immune system pretty bang up. thats why he gets sick pretty easily (see cancel shows in europe 2022 and 2024).


    WAIT! Are you the doctor of Edoardo? :D 
    ed went on record with the interview with apple music around the release of earthlings that when he got covid was pretty dead serious and he was very seriously ill. that leaves a mark when u´re getting old.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,930
    drfox said:
    All your US leg 2 shows will be around 25 songs. It’s the new norm. 

    It's cool. Can't wait to see them in Philly & Baltimore this September. 
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Posts: 3,020
    Well Stone recently said in an interview that they are playing shorter shows now for their own well-being and longevity.  So unless they can cram 30 songs into a 2.5 hour set, I'd say it's highly unlikely lol.  He also said he wouldn't want to go to a 3 hour show either.  Speak for yourself, Stone!!

    The optimist in me sees this as a sign that they want to keep going and making music and playing shows. Maybe if they had kept up the pace from 2013-2018, they wouldn't be around much longer. 
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,930
    They could play 30 songs again. If only they could play more shorter songs then longer songs.

    It's gonna be tough to take out Alive, Even Flow & Porch from their set and replace them with say (from Lost Dogs) .. All Night, Down, In The Moonlight, Hitchhiker, Alone, Undone, Don't Gimme No Lip, Leaving Here, Bee Girl, Drifting, Undone, U, Education ..

    Songs that are under 3:30 minutes.


  • I’m just grateful that we had a solid 25 on the most recent US run, rather than the 22-23 we saw in most of 2022.

    For people thinking they might go longer on special occasions, I’d just note that post covid, no last show of a tour, no hometown show, no favorite city show, etc., has been notably longer than any of the others. I think this is just the length they do now. And while I never got to go to one of the marathon shows, I’ve seen 8 shows in the last 4 years and have never left one feeling short changed.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,548
    I feel like they went back to their pre 2013 norm.  3 hour shows are probably back to being a special occasion thing, opposed to a consistent thing?
  • raindog80raindog80 Posts: 1,169
    Zod said:
    I feel like they went back to their pre 2013 norm.  3 hour shows are probably back to being a special occasion thing, opposed to a consistent thing?
    Yep. 
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  • RobbertRobbert Posts: 915
    Dont care about wich song, butt less talking more rockin!
  • PapPap Posts: 28,876
    demetrios said:
    They could play 30 songs again. If only they could play more shorter songs than longer songs.

    It's gonna be tough to take out Alive, Even Flow & Porch from their set and replace them with say (from Lost Dogs)... All Night, Down, In The Moonlight, Hitchhiker, Alone, Undone, Don't Gimme No Lip, Leaving Here, Bee Girl, Drifting, Undone, U, Education ..

    Songs that are under 3:30 minutes.
    I concur :smile:
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  • EraserheadEraserhead Posts: 2,926
    No. My back can't take 3+ hours of standing up!
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Posts: 15,064
    The most recent tour was fantastic as it was, i didnt leave the shows feeling I needed more, I was on cloud nine on what I had witnessed. If we keep getting the 25 song sets into the future id be more than happy

    and I could never ever get tired of hearing black at a show.......NEVER
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,823
    pdalowsky said:
    The most recent tour was fantastic as it was, i didnt leave the shows feeling I needed more, I was on cloud nine on what I had witnessed. If we keep getting the 25 song sets into the future id be more than happy

    and I could never ever get tired of hearing black at a show.......NEVER
    Black in the #3 spot for Vegas 1....you just knew the show would be remarkable. I can hear it everyday and still have it hit me between the eyes and chest
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,881
    edited August 2
    25 is good enough.  But mindset is now to just enjoy the ride and be happy with hits filled setlists, with the deep cuts now being Wishlist and Animal outside of the slow start .   Pointless to see five shows in a row trying to chase certain songs.  

    That said, Fort Worth and Austin had some great sets.
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  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,640
    I can live with less than 30+, but I do miss the odds of getting ultra rare songs in a set. I know that what I said is a selfish comment, but I've been hella spoiled with PJ sets over the years.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,930
    With a cap of 25 songs, think we will ever get a full album show, again? 
  • MikeDigsMikeDigs Posts: 1,319
    Standard tours will be what we got in 2024, 25 songs or so.

    To get to the legendary 30+ song setlists, the rare gem songs, it would take something like a Pearl Jam Week event, hence why I'm trying to manifest it.  I'd love to attend some legendary shows, and that will require something outside of a standard tour.
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  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,438
    I know Ive stated this elsewhere (heck, maybe even a few pages back in this thread) but even if they don’t do the ultra rare stuff, it’d be nice if they played more of the less popular 90s album tracks more frequently …eg, Last Exit, Hail Hail, Brain of J. Those tunes should be played every third/fourth show.
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,029
    Is anyone opening for them at Wrigley? 
  • MikeDigsMikeDigs Posts: 1,319
    rummy said:
    I know Ive stated this elsewhere (heck, maybe even a few pages back in this thread) but even if they don’t do the ultra rare stuff, it’d be nice if they played more of the less popular 90s album tracks more frequently …eg, Last Exit, Hail Hail, Brain of J. Those tunes should be played every third/fourth show.
    Amen 🙏 
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  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,403
    Is anyone opening for them at Wrigley? 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,585
    MikeDigs said:
    rummy said:
    I know Ive stated this elsewhere (heck, maybe even a few pages back in this thread) but even if they don’t do the ultra rare stuff, it’d be nice if they played more of the less popular 90s album tracks more frequently …eg, Last Exit, Hail Hail, Brain of J. Those tunes should be played every third/fourth show.
    Amen 🙏 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,585
    Is anyone opening for them at Wrigley? 
    Glen Hansard
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,895
    The bell curve....we hit the peak and are now on the decline.   24 songs is still a lot, that was a super long set once upon a time.  I would  rather have 14 songs Ed can sing than mic hold sing alongside and Ed being ruined. Like Steven Tyler.

    Stop playing cover and stick to PJ songs please
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,029
    hrd2imgn said:
    The bell curve....we hit the peak and are now on the decline.   24 songs is still a lot, that was a super long set once upon a time.  I would  rather have 14 songs Ed can sing than mic hold sing alongside and Ed being ruined. Like Steven Tyler.

    Stop playing cover and stick to PJ songs please
    This would be a good argument, besides the fact that Pearl Jam have played 17 shows this year and have played 111 different songs in total, and only 15 of those 111 were covers….

    thats only 13.5% of the songs they played…. But go on with this ridiculous “covers” argument in a length of show thread  
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,895
    2 less pearl jam songs a show based on those stats, I would rather see Pearl Jam play Pearl Jam songs, why is that ridiculous?
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,930

    rummy said:
    I know Ive stated this elsewhere (heck, maybe even a few pages back in this thread) but even if they don’t do the ultra rare stuff, it’d be nice if they played more of the less popular 90s album tracks more frequently …eg, Last Exit, Hail Hail, Brain of J. Those tunes should be played every third/fourth show.

    Ah, yes please!

  • JE224127JE224127 Posts: 449
    Wrigley will answer this question
  • joseph33joseph33 Posts: 1,247
    I see it happening at some point. But it won't be frequently like it use to be.
  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,105
    I’m just grateful that we had a solid 25 on the most recent US run, rather than the 22-23 we saw in most of 2022.

    For people thinking they might go longer on special occasions, I’d just note that post covid, no last show of a tour, no hometown show, no favorite city show, etc., has been notably longer than any of the others. I think this is just the length they do now. And while I never got to go to one of the marathon shows, I’ve seen 8 shows in the last 4 years and have never left one feeling short changed.
    I agree 100% with this post.

    They’ve played Seattle and Chicago with days off between, they played MSG on the anniversary of 9/11, they played Toronto (a favourite city of the band) that was a single show with days off, and none of these were more than 25 songs.  

    And I also agree, I’m happy we’re mainly getting 25 songs in 2024 as opposed to 22-23 songs.  Some EU headlong shows in 2022 only had 20 songs.
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