I was always curious that if Covid didn’t happen, when would the set reduction have occurred? 2020 or 2022? It’s nice to see they’ve increased the set by a song or two on average this tour. 25 is good, 21-22 was a slap in the face with no notice, 26-28 would be perfect.
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Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
Betting the fact they have two back-to-back MSG dates not long after Wrigley (and still utilizing an opener) will keep them in the mid-20s for Chicago.
If they weren't touring an album and plan less dates (similar to 2018's tour), I can see 30-songs still a possibility. We'll see what they plan for 2025...
The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
Should have checked before I posted lol. Was going off memory 6 years ago. The guy next to me with the set said it was 29 songs.
Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
Wondering if it is a matter of not wanting to do a set of 30 or more songs or not being able to do it physically.
I remember going from 32-36 songs to 21-25 was whiplash. I figured they would still be performing 30 songs and two encores and were 5-7 years away from 22-25.
The Stones are in their 80's and playing 20 songs a night.
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The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
Should have checked before I posted lol. Was going off memory 6 years ago. The guy next to me with the set said it was 29 songs.
Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
According to the FanViews for that show, they went on stage at 9:30 and played until 11:57. They got permission to go over curfew but only until midnight. Night 1 they went on about 8 and played til 11.
The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
Should have checked before I posted lol. Was going off memory 6 years ago. The guy next to me with the set said it was 29 songs.
Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
According to the FanViews for that show, they went on stage at 9:30 and played until 11:57. They got permission to go over curfew but only until midnight. Night 1 they went on about 8 and played til 11.
Hopefully the ballparks still get more.
Would have been interesting too see how many songs London would have gotten.
I don't think a "3 min fast rock-song" type of band need to be out there for 35 songs. 25-27 is enough is enough for me. Or whatever it takes to be out there for 2h40m.
What they should do is to loosen the strict staple-backbone a bit.
Play Do the evolution once every third show instead of every show. Have Animal rotate in instead, and Big Wave, Hail Hail and Brain of J. Play Evenflow every third show and rotate in other songs. Play Black every maybe five shows and rotate in other ballads. Find other Neil Young songs to play mid-set instead of having RITFW at the end.
THE ROTATION IS KEY. And not getting so damn staple-strict. More so than the amount of songs, in my opinion.
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Wondering if it is a matter of not wanting to do a set of 30 or more songs or not being able to do it physically.
I remember going from 32-36 songs to 21-25 was whiplash. I figured they would still be performing 30 songs and two encores and were 5-7 years away from 22-25.
The Stones are in their 80's and playing 20 songs a night.
I think it's mostly physical. Try to preserve Ed's voice as much as they can. And Matt was quoted (I think around the time Taylor Hawkins passed) how physically exhausting it was doing shows that long. He said he would hit his limit, look at the setlist, and see that they still had 6-7 songs to go. It's possible Ed or one of the other guys got covid during lockdown and they just all agreed not to overdo it upon their return. And now it's the new normal.
I also wonder if they feel like they had to keep doing it? Not many of their peers were playing 30+ songs per night. Obviously bad timing with ticket prices going up and show length going down lol.
I don't think a "3 min fast rock-song" type of band need to be out there for 35 songs. 25-27 is enough is enough for me. Or whatever it takes to be out there for 2h40m.
What they should do is to loosen the strict staple-backbone a bit.
Play Do the evolution once every third show instead of every show. Have Animal rotate in instead, and Big Wave, Hail Hail and Brain of J. Play Evenflow every third show and rotate in other songs. Play Black every maybe five shows and rotate in other ballads. Find other Neil Young songs to play mid-set instead of having RITFW at the end.
THE ROTATION IS KEY. And not getting so damn staple-strict. More so than the amount of songs, in my opinion.
100% agree with all of this
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The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
its pretty clear when Ed caught covid in 2020/2021 it was pretty dead serious and it left his immune system pretty bang up. thats why he gets sick pretty easily (see cancel shows in europe 2022 and 2024).
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The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
What song was scratched next to rain? Looks like Eruption.
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
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The pragmatist in me agrees, but I won't fully subscribe until Wrigley 2.
Last Wrigley had 29
Would have been more if it hadn't been delayed by rain
I don’t think that changed anything. The setlist leaked before the delay. I saw it right when we got in the pit at 530 or whenever early entry was and it was the exact same set.
A few scratches there and cut the second encore break. It definitely felt shorter than night 1
What song was scratched next to rain? Looks like Eruption.
It clearly says "FLOW"
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If they weren't touring an album and plan less dates (similar to 2018's tour), I can see 30-songs still a possibility. We'll see what they plan for 2025...
Forgot about that Gonna See My Friend getting cut. Will likely never get another sniff at that one.
I remember going from 32-36 songs to 21-25 was whiplash. I figured they would still be performing 30 songs and two encores and were 5-7 years away from 22-25.
The Stones are in their 80's and playing 20 songs a night.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
What they should do is to loosen the strict staple-backbone a bit.
Play Do the evolution once every third show instead of every show. Have Animal rotate in instead, and Big Wave, Hail Hail and Brain of J.
Play Evenflow every third show and rotate in other songs.
Play Black every maybe five shows and rotate in other ballads.
Find other Neil Young songs to play mid-set instead of having RITFW at the end.
THE ROTATION IS KEY. And not getting so damn staple-strict. More so than the amount of songs, in my opinion.
I also wonder if they feel like they had to keep doing it? Not many of their peers were playing 30+ songs per night. Obviously bad timing with ticket prices going up and show length going down lol.
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paris 06
wembley 07
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your=showing ownership
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