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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    mickeyrat said:
    so on fucking point.


    The guys pretty funny and he makes some good points, but I have to say, "Turn the fucking thing off once in a while!"  The reason we keep hearing the same shit over and over and over or think it's only about NOW is because we're on the goddamn internet ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!  INCLUDING ME, GOD...DAMN IT!!!
    So awwm a gonna go make me some coffee now.  :lol: 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so on fucking point.

    He needs to ride the trains w me for a day in NY and see that EVERYONE listens to shit w/out headphones, lol.

    He is right though.  People that shouldn't have had a microphone now do, and they blare it and that is all we hear.
    There are clearly signs prohibiting the use of speakers on the train, and people deny the crime wave!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    this article perfectly sums up Bill Maher as he is today. What many of us now criticize him for. He's not edgy. He's just a cranky old Andy Rooney 2.0. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/opinions/bill-maher-what-this-comedian-said-will-shock-you-hemmer/index.html
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    this article perfectly sums up Bill Maher as he is today. What many of us now criticize him for. He's not edgy. He's just a cranky old Andy Rooney 2.0. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/opinions/bill-maher-what-this-comedian-said-will-shock-you-hemmer/index.html

    One of the things I've always liked about Bill Maher is that he is forthright in speaking his mind with little to no concern with how popular his ideas and beliefs are.  It's one of the things I respect about the writer Edward Abbey whose work was literally thought provoking.  Maher, like Abbey, provokes listeners and reading to think.  Not necessarily to agree, but to think. 
    I also like it that Maher has not felt the need to neatly outfit his image into what a liberal or conservative person should be.  Maher (again, like Abbey), helped illuminate in me the notion that formulating a view on things based on what makes sense to me is what is important- far more important than trying to mold myself to a prerequisite set of strictures for what is a proper liberal or a proper conservative is supposed to be.  
    And if Maher has gotten a bit old and cranky, I can understand and relate to that to a good degree. The problems in the world just don't go away (and many have gotten worse) no matter how hard you advocate for things to improve.
    So in those ways, I see myself similar to Bill Maher with one big difference: he has prompted millions of people to look at some of the big issues in the world and formulate opinions about those things and maybe even act on those idea.  I'm just some guy from California who pops up on a few internet forums now and then.
    Ho hum.  :lol:             
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    thing is, he used to attack hypocrisy wherever he found it. now, he's just bitching about "the left" and "wokeism" and telling his "fellow liberals" "see, this is why you are losing!" (it isn't, and they aren't). He's lowered himself to taking on right wing media talking points to be able to draw from both crowds. he's out of touch. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    thing is, he used to attack hypocrisy wherever he found it. now, he's just bitching about "the left" and "wokeism" and telling his "fellow liberals" "see, this is why you are losing!" (it isn't, and they aren't). He's lowered himself to taking on right wing media talking points to be able to draw from both crowds. he's out of touch. 

    Maybe, but maybe it's a moot point.  At this point, we need younger vigorous, motivated, intelligent, youthful rabble-rousers.  People his and my age are quickly becoming irrelevant, at least in terms of instigating change.
    Metaphorically speaking, as bassist/singer/songwriter Clint Conley once said with at least a bit of exasperation toward the end of a Mission of Burma gig, "How long to we have to play before we get paid?"   At some point, when you no longer see any social pay off, you lay down your axe and go for a walk.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    but he's still swinging his axe. but he's swinging it wildly just hoping he hits something.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    smugness is an unappealing quality. he got in line 4 times for that personality trait.

    I dont believe its about getting the audience to think. its about getting them to think like him.

    the fact the he's proud he hasn't changed( according to the book) speaks volumes......
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  • brianlux
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    There are times of the day where three quarters of the world's population of humans are asleep.  And then they are WOKE.  And then they are not.  And then they are. Then not. Ad infinitum!

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  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,849
    mickeyrat said:
    smugness is an unappealing quality. he got in line 4 times for that personality trait.

    I dont believe its about getting the audience to think. its about getting them to think like him.

    the fact the he's proud he hasn't changed( according to the book) speaks volumes......
    Getting them to think like him... and make a lot of money in the process... like MANY talking heads in the culture war these days. 


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  • gimmesometruth27
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    thing is, he used to attack hypocrisy wherever he found it. now, he's just bitching about "the left" and "wokeism" and telling his "fellow liberals" "see, this is why you are losing!" (it isn't, and they aren't). He's lowered himself to taking on right wing media talking points to be able to draw from both crowds. he's out of touch. 
    he lost me when he had milo on and basically agreed with all of his positions. have not watched him since. unfollowed all of his socials too. canceled his boomer ass.
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  • brianlux
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    Wwww...WHAT?!

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    There goes ‘Murica’s national defense!

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/official-us-navy-special-forces-page-draws-backlash-ringing-pride-month-navy-seals-have-gone-woke
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    More Project 2025 anti-wokeness.

    Finally, the next Administration will face a significant challenge in unwinding policies and procedures that are used to advance radical gender, racial, and equity initiatives under the banner of science. Similarly, the Biden Administration’s climate fanaticism will need a whole-of-government unwinding. As with other federal departments and agencies, the Biden Administration’s leveraging of the federal government’s resources to further the woke agenda should be reversed and scrubbed from all policy manuals, guidance documents, and agendas, and scientific excellence and innovation should be restored as the OSTP’s top priority.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    Woke, woke, woke.

    The National Drug Control Program agencies represented a total of $41 billion in fiscal year 2022. Whereas the position for overseeing budget activities is traditionally held by a career official, it is imperative that a political appointee lead the ONDCP budget office to ensure coordination between the OMB Program Associate Director and the ONDCP budgetary appointee.

    ONDCP grant-making activities have been controversial over the years, particularly within conservative Administrations concerned that the White House lacks the expertise to oversee such programs directly. The ONDCP administers two grant programs: the Drug-Free Communities Support Program and the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas Program. While it makes sense to transfer these programs eventually to the Department of Justice and Department of Health and Human Services, respectively, it is vital that the ONDCP Director ensure in the immediate term that these grant programs are funding the President’s drug control priorities and not woke nonprofits with leftist policy agendas. Thus, the President must insure that the ONDCP is managed by political appointees who are committed to the Administration’s agenda and not acquiesce to management by political or career military personnel who oversaw the prior Administration’s ONDCP.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    Its everywhere!

    GENDER POLICY COUNCIL (GPC) The President should immediately revoke Executive Order 1402041 and every policy, including subregulatory guidance documents, produced on behalf of or related to the establishment or promotion of the Gender Policy Council and its subsidiary issues. Abolishing the Gender Policy Council would eliminate central promotion of abortion (“health services”); comprehensive sexuality education (“education”); and the new woke gender ideology, which has as a principal tenet “gender affirming care” and “sex-change” surgeries on minors. In addition to eliminating the council, developing new structures and positions will have the dual effect of demonstrating that promoting life and strengthening the family is a priority while also facilitating more seamless coordination and consistency across the U.S. government.

    Specifically, the President should appoint a position/point of contact with the rank of Special Assistant to the President or higher to coordinate and lead the President’s domestic priorities on issues related to life and family in cooperation with the Domestic Policy Council. This position would be responsible for facilitating meetings, discussions, and agreements among personnel; coordinating Administration policy; and ensuring agency support for implementation of policies related to the promotion of life and family in the United States.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Its everywhere!

    GENDER POLICY COUNCIL (GPC) The President should immediately revoke Executive Order 1402041 and every policy, including subregulatory guidance documents, produced on behalf of or related to the establishment or promotion of the Gender Policy Council and its subsidiary issues. Abolishing the Gender Policy Council would eliminate central promotion of abortion (“health services”); comprehensive sexuality education (“education”); and the new woke gender ideology, which has as a principal tenet “gender affirming care” and “sex-change” surgeries on minors. In addition to eliminating the council, developing new structures and positions will have the dual effect of demonstrating that promoting life and strengthening the family is a priority while also facilitating more seamless coordination and consistency across the U.S. government.

    Specifically, the President should appoint a position/point of contact with the rank of Special Assistant to the President or higher to coordinate and lead the President’s domestic priorities on issues related to life and family in cooperation with the Domestic Policy Council. This position would be responsible for facilitating meetings, discussions, and agreements among personnel; coordinating Administration policy; and ensuring agency support for implementation of policies related to the promotion of life and family in the United States.
    This seems extreme.  I don't agree w all of it but have no problem w some of it.  There is never an in between solution to anything nowadays.  It's one way or the other.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    DHS is woke, yo!

    Unfortunately for our nation, the federal government’s newest department became like every other federal agency: bloated, bureaucratic, and expensive. It also lost sight of its mission priorities. DHS has also suffered from the Left’s wokeness and weaponization against Americans whom the Left perceives as its political opponents.
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