*** Las Vegas, NV 2 Fanviews Here 5.18.24 ***

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  • Tjm007
    Tjm007 Posts: 189
    edited May 2024
    CROJAM95 said:
    Harrison Butker?
    Yea got dragged for being a 1st class moron
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    edited May 2024
    Tjm007 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Harrison Butker?
    Yea got dragged for being a 1st class moron
    [post deleted]
    Politicians leave women's bodies alone. Religion leave women's bodies alone.

    That would by definition include all religions attempting to control women's choices.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,548
    edited May 2024
    Tjm007 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Harrison Butker?
    Yea got dragged for being a 1st class moron
    [post deleted]
    I feel like he was attacking a shitty person more than anything. Or do we need the false equivalencies to make a larger tired point of sHuT uP aNd SiNg
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    edited May 2024
    Tjm007 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Harrison Butker?
    Yea got dragged for being a 1st class moron
    [post deleted]
    I feel like he was attacking a shitty person more than anything. Or do we need the false equivalencies to make a larger tired point of sHuT uP aNd SiNg
    Yeah, Ed wasn't attacking "religion." He was mocking a person whose skewed version of his religion leads him to believe in some ideas that seem out of place in the 21st century. He referred to his wife's belief, and implied that most other women also believe, that "her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother." This is a pretty insulting statement, implying that women are lifeless husks until they are animated by a husband (Butker's vision does not embrace same-sex spouses) and children. It's also not really supported by the Gospels, in which Jesus never expresses any thoughts along these lines.

    Having said that, when my niece graduated eighth grade about fifteen years ago, the priest said in his homily at the graduation Mass that he hoped some of the boys would get the calling to serve God as priests and that some of the girls would become nuns, except he said that he hoped they would "grow up to marry Jesus."

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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    BF25394 said:

    It's also not really supported by the Gospels, in which Jesus never expresses any thoughts along these lines.

    Along with basically all the other crap they want to force on everyone.
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    edited May 2024
    Doesn't the band realize many fans go to both shows?  If so 9 repeats and the last 3 songs the same yet again???!

    This is the kind of comment I love to read on this message board. I can just imagine Ed sitting there thinking "Well, we're playing two shows and there's a great chance there will be people who go both nights. We should probably worry more about them than the people who only go to one night.*insert epic eye roll here* Fuck, those people. Ugh."
    Very few people actually go to 1 show when 2 are in the same city.  Ed polled the crowd, the roar was thunderous for how many of us were also there N1.  

    Thanks for your input johnny one show. 

    But yes, 100% shows that have 2 nights in 1 city should be tailored to be a 2 night show with where the 2 nights are basically equivalent to one 2013 to 2018 show where you could get 50 different songs and just repeat alive.
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  • 12inchdoc
    12inchdoc Posts: 38
    JS120496 said:

    Long time lurker, first time poster.

    Let start by saying that there’s nothing quite like the energy of a Pearl Jam Concert.  This is my 3rd show of this tour (saw VAN night 1 and PDX) and 43rd lifetime show (44 and 45 will be Wrigley this year).  The new songs translate (seamlessly) into the live show and the addition of the screens/projections behind the band were spectacular—soaring landscapes/band projections that synchronize beautifully with the music (it really crescendos to the end in some ways—feels like a journey).  

    But for me, what really stood out in this show was the kindness of the Pearl Jam community.  I attended the show with my 9 year old son (it’s his 2nd PJ show—first was United Center night 1 last year).  We had seats on the floor behind GA, but in the last row.  We were sitting next to a tenclubber, who was super kind.  My son even asked him to guess the opener (and he played along).  Right before PJ came on, he told me he was thirsty and needed to get to the bathroom.  We ran quickly up the stairs and made it down as the band got on stage, and to our seats by “Of the Girl.”  He tried standing on the chair, but still had a hard time seeing the stage.  That’s when magic happened.

    A very kind woman approached us with wrist bands and asked if we would like to move into the pit.  She told me that she locked eyes with my son and thought he would enjoy the show closer up front.  She said if it didn’t work out, we could go back to our seats.  We put he wristbands on and followed her into GA.  It was still hard to see, but I was able to hoist him onto my shoulders for the songs he was anticipating (Dark Matter, Wreckage, Elderly Woman, Evenflow) before security (very kindly) asked me to get him off my shoulder.  I obliged and we danced and made the most of what we were given.  At that point, another fan told me that she had gotten pictures of us and was willing to share them with me (she said she enjoyed us enjoying the music).  We also had 2 people (the original person we met and another man) give us McCreedy guitar pics (we were on the McCreedy side of the stage).  As the show went on, I tried to hoist him up on my shoulders again (during Alive) and was told by security to take him down again.  The original person we met then came into the pit (she must have been watching) and told me to put my son on my shoulders and she would stop security.  My son was relieved and I happily obliged (during YL).  That’s when the head of security came and was very upset.  However, our original patron would not relent—showing her badge and fiercely defending us.  Seeing all of this, I really didn’t want to cause an issue, so I said we didn’t want to cause trouble and got him down.  About that time, 2 folks from the crew came by with a pair of Matt Cameron’s sticks and a copy of the setlist.  2 other kind folks then kindly pushed us toward the second row(ish) part of the crowd so he could see “Setting Sun” (another favorite of both of ours—and now maybe with new meaning for me).  It was electrifying and the connection from the stage was tangible.

    My son was just floating—it was unbelievable.   As we were leaving, I paused to thank our original stranger/friend for all of her kindness.  It made such a difference for our experience.  She then introduced herself as Ashley and that she was Mike McCreedy’s wife.  She relayed that she and Mike had 3 sons and one was close to my son’s age.  This revelation added another layer of meaning to her generosity.  She treated us with extreme kindness, focussing on making our experience memorable by seeing the world through the eyes of a parent and a fan.

    It’s amazing (to me) that Pearl Jam has explicitly sought out the creation of a community with their music. To me, it’s far more amazing what has come of this creation.  Ashley’s kindness and down-to-earth nature made us feel like we were part of a special community.  Reflecting on the night, I am also reminded of the profound impact that small acts of kindness can have.  Her gesture was a beautiful reminder of the goodness in people and the power of music to bring us together.  

    My son and I will always cherish our Pearl Jam concert in Vegas.  Thank you, Ashley, for giving us a night to remember.  Also, thank you to the (other kind) stranger who sent us the pictures and videos that will help us remember this time (forever).  May our days be long until kingdom come.


    What an amazing experience! Smiling for y'all.
  • Tjm007
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  • The_Giant_Midget
    The_Giant_Midget Los Angeles Posts: 599
    So I'll preface this by saying obviously this band puts on shows that are better than 99% of other artists out there and im very fortunate to have seen them many times....but night 2 wasn't really close to the show that night 1 was.

    After Thursday where we saw such a great setlist (created at 4 AM as Ed said), the band playing out of their minds, Andrew Watt joining them on stage, etc I figured we were in for a treat since it was Saturday night in Vegas and usually the last show in a town is better. Also adding in the back of my mind I thought that we could maybe seen some more Binaural bday love and it being the anniversary of Chris Cornell's passing that it wasn't just going to be an ordinary show, but unfortunately it kinda was.

    My main issue was all the stop downs due to Ed's voice, there was just no flow to the show with him chatting in between each song and it was a lot more than usual. I've seen 27 shows now, im quite used to Ed talking and I understand fully that it's to help out his voice due to his apparent throat issues but it never let the crowd kick it into high gear which is a shame because I feel like it could've been just as good of a crowd as night 1. Of course the EB donation portion was amazing and he gave a few nice shout outs but a few times I was literally looking down at my watch hoping he'd move it along.

    I'm not what you'd call a "song chaser," I don't really have many songs I haven't seen that I desperately need to see to feel satisfied, I'd rather see songs that I enjoy even if I have before. That being said having the same show ending as night 1 (yes, I know Setting Sun is a lock), Porch and Evenflow again kinda stunk. Was hoping for more variety but looks like the set was made with Ed's voice in mind so they picked songs with extended guitar solos. I will also add Out of My Mind doesn't do much for me, i have strangely seen it 3/6 times its been played and the non die-hards in the crowd just seemed kinda confused by it. If the dropped in another rarity instead of MYM that start of the show could've rivaled night 1.

    To give out some positives because I really am not trying to poo poo everything - it was great they decided to move around the Dark Matter songs within the set and despite some not loving Wreckage/Something Special I think they're great. I'd probably move Something Special to the first song in the encore or during the main set but I thoroughly enjoy all the new stuff. night 1 probably had the crowd favorites in Stevie, Upper Hand & Scared of Fear but I will take as much Dark Matter as possible at any show. 

    You Are might've been the best performance ive seen from them ever. You can tell they rehearsed it, Ed sounded great and finally the screens made sense! The visuals enhanced that song so much, it was so trippy. truly a PJ concert moment I'll never forget. The highlights of the show were easily having them open with Of the Girl, the entire crowd singing Garden, throwing in Severed Hand in the middle, a surprise Spin the Black Circle and the insane version of You Are. 

    Again really not trying to come off as an entitled fan, I'm simply giving my point of view of someone who walked into night 2 thinking we could've had like an MSG2 2010 situation after how off the charts night 1 was. I mean even Jeff posted on social media saying how great Thursday was. On the way out I asked my fiancé, who is not a die-hard fan, which show she preferred and she also said night 1 citing how special the crowd was. This show was good, better than most touring bands can do but it was lacking that special feel to put into my upper echelon of PJ shows. 
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    I think being in GA I was too close to appreciate the screen. Didn’t notice anything about it during You Are. Real first world problems here. 🤣
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  • So I'll preface this by saying obviously this band puts on shows that are better than 99% of other artists out there and im very fortunate to have seen them many times....but night 2 wasn't really close to the show that night 1 was.

    After Thursday where we saw such a great setlist (created at 4 AM as Ed said), the band playing out of their minds, Andrew Watt joining them on stage, etc I figured we were in for a treat since it was Saturday night in Vegas and usually the last show in a town is better. Also adding in the back of my mind I thought that we could maybe seen some more Binaural bday love and it being the anniversary of Chris Cornell's passing that it wasn't just going to be an ordinary show, but unfortunately it kinda was.

    My main issue was all the stop downs due to Ed's voice, there was just no flow to the show with him chatting in between each song and it was a lot more than usual. I've seen 27 shows now, im quite used to Ed talking and I understand fully that it's to help out his voice due to his apparent throat issues but it never let the crowd kick it into high gear which is a shame because I feel like it could've been just as good of a crowd as night 1. Of course the EB donation portion was amazing and he gave a few nice shout outs but a few times I was literally looking down at my watch hoping he'd move it along.

    I'm not what you'd call a "song chaser," I don't really have many songs I haven't seen that I desperately need to see to feel satisfied, I'd rather see songs that I enjoy even if I have before. That being said having the same show ending as night 1 (yes, I know Setting Sun is a lock), Porch and Evenflow again kinda stunk. Was hoping for more variety but looks like the set was made with Ed's voice in mind so they picked songs with extended guitar solos. I will also add Out of My Mind doesn't do much for me, i have strangely seen it 3/6 times its been played and the non die-hards in the crowd just seemed kinda confused by it. If the dropped in another rarity instead of MYM that start of the show could've rivaled night 1.

    To give out some positives because I really am not trying to poo poo everything - it was great they decided to move around the Dark Matter songs within the set and despite some not loving Wreckage/Something Special I think they're great. I'd probably move Something Special to the first song in the encore or during the main set but I thoroughly enjoy all the new stuff. night 1 probably had the crowd favorites in Stevie, Upper Hand & Scared of Fear but I will take as much Dark Matter as possible at any show. 

    You Are might've been the best performance ive seen from them ever. You can tell they rehearsed it, Ed sounded great and finally the screens made sense! The visuals enhanced that song so much, it was so trippy. truly a PJ concert moment I'll never forget. The highlights of the show were easily having them open with Of the Girl, the entire crowd singing Garden, throwing in Severed Hand in the middle, a surprise Spin the Black Circle and the insane version of You Are. 

    Again really not trying to come off as an entitled fan, I'm simply giving my point of view of someone who walked into night 2 thinking we could've had like an MSG2 2010 situation after how off the charts night 1 was. I mean even Jeff posted on social media saying how great Thursday was. On the way out I asked my fiancé, who is not a die-hard fan, which show she preferred and she also said night 1 citing how special the crowd was. This show was good, better than most touring bands can do but it was lacking that special feel to put into my upper echelon of PJ shows. 
    All valid and some of it I agree with. Could have used a different main set closer than Porch. I really liked the night, probably enjoyed it more than N1, even though I do believe the set was not as good, but getting YLB again almost killed it for me. I love it, but how often do they play that song in back-to-backs, let alone in the same venue? With some of the different things they have done in that spot such as Smile and even Porch before Setting Sun, I was really looking forward to something like that, especially since it is such a change to have these set songs. Then they didn't even come close to it.

    But they did change up the Dark Matter set really for the first time and I am glad for that. Would have been awesome to just give us the whole album in the two nights as a result, but I'll take 10 of 11. I am not a song chaser either, although I have a list, but man, I got three new songs (You Are being one), and with the standard stuff so far this year I never thought that would happen. It's funny, it's nowhere near Out of My Mind for you, but Severed Hand was at one time my White Wale and I have now heard it three out of my last four shows. I will take it every time, but when he said we don't play this that often I was sort of excited for what it would be!

    The Eddie banter sort of made the night for me. I liked it and most of it was really entertaining. What really did make the night for me was You Are.

    It won't be close to my favorite show, but it is far from my least favorite, and a lot of this is why live shows, and definitely Pearl Jam live shows, are so fun. 
  • DL136722
    DL136722 Not sure... Posts: 724
    Someone mentioned it before but you have to think that roughly 65%-70% of the crowd from night one goes to night 2, not just in Vegas but in general considering the travel most are doing, going to both just seems logical. I hope PJ takes that into consideration going forward. No need to repeat anything when playing 2 nights in the same city. They can easily play 25 songs a night with zero repeats. Even with Dark Matter material, play half night one the other half night two. At the end it's two shows that make one even bigger show. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    DL136722 said:
    Someone mentioned it before but you have to think that roughly 65%-70% of the crowd from night one goes to night 2, not just in Vegas but in general considering the travel most are doing, going to both just seems logical. I hope PJ takes that into consideration going forward. No need to repeat anything when playing 2 nights in the same city. They can easily play 25 songs a night with zero repeats. Even with Dark Matter material, play half night one the other half night two. At the end it's two shows that make one even bigger show. 
    lol...good thing you were here to clue them in
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,822
    Tjm007 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Harrison Butker?
    Yea got dragged for being a 1st class moron
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    What I miss?
  • pledgeagrievance
    pledgeagrievance Posts: 2,874
    edited May 2024
    DL136722 said:
    Someone mentioned it before but you have to think that roughly 65%-70% of the crowd from night one goes to night 2, not just in Vegas but in general considering the travel most are doing, going to both just seems logical. I hope PJ takes that into consideration going forward. No need to repeat anything when playing 2 nights in the same city. They can easily play 25 songs a night with zero repeats. Even with Dark Matter material, play half night one the other half night two. At the end it's two shows that make one even bigger show. 
    70% repeat crowd?  I don’t know and I’m just guessing but I would think if 25-33% were at any two night run that would be a lot for any band 
  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 410
    Let's not forget that most people would  cheer even if Eddie told them to fuck off, so him asking who was there night 1 is not entirely a reliable and empirical analysis. I would also think less than 50% seems more realistic due to the costs for a ticket alone. The collectors and die-hards are definitely a a very visible (always in GA) and loud minority. 
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  • BF25394
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    Let's not forget that most people would  cheer even if Eddie told them to fuck off, so him asking who was there night 1 is not entirely a reliable and empirical analysis. I would also think less than 50% seems more realistic due to the costs for a ticket alone. The collectors and die-hards are definitely a a very visible (always in GA) and loud minority. 
    Yes, weirdly, some people will also cheer just because they want the people around them to think they were there both nights because they think it makes them look cooler. And cheering is contagious. Sometimes people don't even hear what is said on stage and then just cheer reflexively when they hear other people cheering.
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  • djklambake
    djklambake PHX, AZ Posts: 2,524
    LV2 was a privilege for me… I’m sure had things worked out, I’d have gone to night 1, but because this was the only show my daughter, Olivia, could make, this was it. 

    See, in 2022 I caught the band’s show in Phoenix with my wife. I learned the next day that Olivia’s boyfriend at the time asked her if she wanted to go to the PHX show but she turned him down because she wanted to see Pearl Jam with me and only with me. She was like, “If I’m going to see Pearl Jam, it’s going to be with my dad.” 

    i was crushed.

    Had I known she wanted to go, I’d have taken her… alas.

    LV2 was my chance to make it up to Olivia. This weekend was Olivia’s first time in Las Vegas, and her first Pearl Jam show. 

    We had a ball! 

    Many high points, zero low. Wreckage was the song of the night.

    When it was over, I asked Olivia what she thought, and she said, “I can’t wait for the next one.”

    Melts a dad’s heart.
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  • cincybearcat
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    LV2 was a privilege for me… I’m sure had things worked out, I’d have gone to night 1, but because this was the only show my daughter, Olivia, could make, this was it. 

    See, in 2022 I caught the band’s show in Phoenix with my wife. I learned the next day that Olivia’s boyfriend at the time asked her if she wanted to go to the PHX show but she turned him down because she wanted to see Pearl Jam with me and only with me. She was like, “If I’m going to see Pearl Jam, it’s going to be with my dad.” 

    i was crushed.

    Had I known she wanted to go, I’d have taken her… alas.

    LV2 was my chance to make it up to Olivia. This weekend was Olivia’s first time in Las Vegas, and her first Pearl Jam show. 

    We had a ball! 

    Many high points, zero low. Wreckage was the song of the night.

    When it was over, I asked Olivia what she thought, and she said, “I can’t wait for the next one.”

    Melts a dad’s heart.
    Nice.  Something special about seeing PJ with your daughter who also loves the band.
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  • danlee1095
    danlee1095 Posts: 1,316
    LV2 was a privilege for me… I’m sure had things worked out, I’d have gone to night 1, but because this was the only show my daughter, Olivia, could make, this was it. 

    See, in 2022 I caught the band’s show in Phoenix with my wife. I learned the next day that Olivia’s boyfriend at the time asked her if she wanted to go to the PHX show but she turned him down because she wanted to see Pearl Jam with me and only with me. She was like, “If I’m going to see Pearl Jam, it’s going to be with my dad.” 

    i was crushed.

    Had I known she wanted to go, I’d have taken her… alas.

    LV2 was my chance to make it up to Olivia. This weekend was Olivia’s first time in Las Vegas, and her first Pearl Jam show. 

    We had a ball! 

    Many high points, zero low. Wreckage was the song of the night.

    When it was over, I asked Olivia what she thought, and she said, “I can’t wait for the next one.”

    Melts a dad’s heart.
    Love this.
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