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  • Posts: 30,879
    AW124797 said:
    How is this bad news for conspiracy theorists?
    It uses mRNA. And I've been told by crazy people that it alters DNA.
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    AW124797 said:
    Brian, sorry to hear about your condition. I hope you'll get better soon. 

    Thank you, AW, most kind of young.  I'm doing OK now that I've got the horrid videonystagmography test over with and pretty much recovered from it.
    And by the way, that word will be on next weeks spelling test.  :lol: 
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  • Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,958
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  • Posts: 9,546
    23scidoo said:
    Seems like old news. 

    In April 2021, the World Health Organisation also confirmed that the vaccine could have fatal side effects. “A very rare adverse event called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, involving unusual and severe blood clotting events associated with low platelet counts, has been reported after vaccination with this vaccine.”
  • Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,958
    It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
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  • Posts: 44,372
    Did astrazeneca make that claim? Or the british government?
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  • Posts: 30,879
    23scidoo said:
    It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
    How about you quit making shit up.  The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:

    Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [123]

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html

    Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.  
  • Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,958
    edited May 2024
    mrussel1 said:
    How about you quit making shit up.  The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:

    Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [123]

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html

    Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.  
    But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
    and also I admire your innocence..
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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  • Posts: 1,855
    mrussel1 said:
    How about you quit making shit up.  The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:

    Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [123]

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html

    Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.  
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    23scidoo said:
    But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
    and also I admire your innocence..
    and yet...if you'd stop being disingenuous and include the text on the entire page, all you have to do is scroll down the page for a millisecond, you'd see this:

    Common Side Effects

    Some people have side effects after COVID-19 vaccination, while others might have no side effects. Side effects tend to be mild, such as soreness at the injection site and fever, and should go away within a few days. Learn more about common side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.

    Adverse Events (Health Problems) Are Rare

    In rare cases, people have experienced more significant adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination. Any health problem that happens after vaccination is considered an adverse event. An adverse event can be caused by the vaccine or can be caused by a coincidental event not related to the vaccine, such as an unrelated fever, that happened following vaccination.

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  • Posts: 30,879
    edited May 2024
    23scidoo said:
    But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
    and also I admire your innocence..
    Of course the govt said it's safe and effective. Otherwise it wouldn't release it.  You said 100%. The link doesn't say that. 



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    I can't believe anyone is still even debating this from any side :lol:
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    Conspiracies never die. Look at the folks who waited in Dealey plaza.
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  • Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,958
    and yet...if you'd stop being disingenuous and include the text on the entire page, all you have to do is scroll down the page for a millisecond, you'd see this:

    Common Side Effects

    Some people have side effects after COVID-19 vaccination, while others might have no side effects. Side effects tend to be mild, such as soreness at the injection site and fever, and should go away within a few days. Learn more about common side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.

    Adverse Events (Health Problems) Are Rare

    In rare cases, people have experienced more significant adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination. Any health problem that happens after vaccination is considered an adverse event. An adverse event can be caused by the vaccine or can be caused by a coincidental event not related to the vaccine, such as an unrelated fever, that happened following vaccination.

    How about to tell that to the thousands of families who believes their lies and now suffering??..
    does the vaccine effect your memory??..because you are all forget very easy..
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  • Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,958
    Conspiracies never die. Look at the folks who waited in Dealey plaza.
    Yesterdays consipiracies, todays facts..
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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited May 2024
    jwhjr17 said:
    I can't believe anyone is still even debating this from any side :lol:

    If I could have the final word on this subject (and of course I won't-- it will go on for close to eternity, lol), it would be this:

    I'm fairly certain my current autoimmune issue is related to the vaccines.  Because of that, I have lichen planus on my arms and sometimes on my chest, and I have oral lichen planus that has taken a lot of the joy out of eating.  That all sucks. 

    I'm also fairly certain that a lot of people died of COVID before the vaccines came along, and that sucks even more.

    I know for certain that I'm still alive, and that as much as it is uncomfortable much of the time, I can still eat enough to stay nourished.  That is awesome.

    I also know for certain that a lot of people are alive today because of the vaccines.  That is even more awesome!

    And lastly, we all know that the likelihood of having an adverse reaction the the vaccine is small and the chances of it saving your life is big. 

    So really, let's just stop this silly nonsense argument and realize nothing is perfect, and that a vaccine, any vaccine, will affect a small percentage of people negatively (frankly, tough shit, that's life*), and a lot of people get to live because we have vaccines.
    Hallelujah!

    *P.S. regarding the "(frankly, tough shit, that's life*) statement, I mean that only about myself or might say that about the trouble humans in general have caused.  I would never direct a statement like that specifically to another person suffering an illness or disorder.

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    This, without any question, made my day…..the whole weekend!!! Sometimes you guys really make me laugh….thanks!  
    You don't need a mask.     Later: You need a mask, we didn't want you to panic buy them and hospitals come up short.
    It didn't come from a lab in Wuhan.     Later: It very well may have come from a lab in Wuhan, we'll never know.
    Vaccines will prevent transmission of Covid.     Later: It will reduce the risk, but prevent you from having severe symptoms...usually.
    We must maintain 6 feet distance for safety.     Later:  That number was basically arbitrarily decided and wasn't based on science.

    Your gov't lied to you every step of the way.  
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  • Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,958
    seanwon said:
    You don't need a mask.     Later: You need a mask, we didn't want you to panic buy them and hospitals come up short.
    It didn't come from a lab in Wuhan.     Later: It very well may have come from a lab in Wuhan, we'll never know.
    Vaccines will prevent transmission of Covid.     Later: It will reduce the risk, but prevent you from having severe symptoms...usually.
    We must maintain 6 feet distance for safety.     Later:  That number was basically arbitrarily decided and wasn't based on science.

    Your gov't lied to you every step of the way.  
    Please, don't wake up them..
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  • Posts: 42,118
    So, was it a lab leak? Or a wet market? Anyone?

    Yo! Check out the Pentagon Papers.

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