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GhostChile
GhostChile Posts: 1,179
in The Porch
is it just me or almost every song on DM is about a possible divorce of Ed?
Mexico City 17/7/2003 Mexico City 18/7/2003 Mexico City 19/7/2003 Santiago Chile 22/11/2005 Santiago Chile 23/11/2005 Buenos Aires Argentina 13/11/2011 Santiago Chile 16/11/2011 Lima Perú 18/11/2011 Sao Paulo Brasil 31/3/2013 Buenos Aires Argentina 03/4/2013 Santiago Chile 06/5/2013 Santiago Chile 4/11/2015 Buenos Aires Argentina 7/11/2015 Porto Alegre Brasil 11/11/2015 Sao Paulo Brasil 14/11/2015 Brasilia Brasil 17/11/2015 Belo Horizonte Brasil 20/11/2015 Rio de Janeiro Brasil 22/11/2015 Bogota Colombia 25/11/2015 Mexico City 28/11/2015 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 8/4/2016 Miami, FL 9/4/2016 Tampa, FL 11/4/2016 Santiago Chile 13/3/2018 Santiago Chile 16/3/2018 Rome Italy 26/6/2018 Prague Czech Republic 1/7/2018 Krakow Poland 3/7/2018 Berlin Germany 5/7/2018 Barcelona Spain 10/7/2018 Dana Point, CA 1/10/2021 Dana Point, CA 2/10/2021 Seattle, WA 28/05/2024 Seattle, WA 30/05/2024 New Orleans, LA 03/05/2025
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    Or of America Maybe

    Or More Death stuff 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,869
    GhostChile said:
    is it just me or almost every song on DM is about a possible divorce of Ed?
    Yes I hear that too


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • PJ_Hawkeye
    PJ_Hawkeye Posts: 68
    Upper hand is rough lyrics.  Then the end just maybe the two of you…
  • GhostChile
    GhostChile Posts: 1,179
    Scared of Fear is about a tough stage of a relationship for sure.

    Mexico City 17/7/2003 Mexico City 18/7/2003 Mexico City 19/7/2003 Santiago Chile 22/11/2005 Santiago Chile 23/11/2005 Buenos Aires Argentina 13/11/2011 Santiago Chile 16/11/2011 Lima Perú 18/11/2011 Sao Paulo Brasil 31/3/2013 Buenos Aires Argentina 03/4/2013 Santiago Chile 06/5/2013 Santiago Chile 4/11/2015 Buenos Aires Argentina 7/11/2015 Porto Alegre Brasil 11/11/2015 Sao Paulo Brasil 14/11/2015 Brasilia Brasil 17/11/2015 Belo Horizonte Brasil 20/11/2015 Rio de Janeiro Brasil 22/11/2015 Bogota Colombia 25/11/2015 Mexico City 28/11/2015 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 8/4/2016 Miami, FL 9/4/2016 Tampa, FL 11/4/2016 Santiago Chile 13/3/2018 Santiago Chile 16/3/2018 Rome Italy 26/6/2018 Prague Czech Republic 1/7/2018 Krakow Poland 3/7/2018 Berlin Germany 5/7/2018 Barcelona Spain 10/7/2018 Dana Point, CA 1/10/2021 Dana Point, CA 2/10/2021 Seattle, WA 28/05/2024 Seattle, WA 30/05/2024 New Orleans, LA 03/05/2025
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,869
    It all seems to be. ...
    Very sad really 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 892
    edited April 2024
    GhostChile said:
    Scared of Fear is about a tough stage of a relationship for sure.

    I think Scared of Fear is about not being able to find common ground with the other people in your community. 
    Actually I think most of the album is about that. But I see how it can be read as one specific interpersonal relationship too. It’s a strength of the writing that it works as whichever you need it to be.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,483
    edited April 2024
    Seeing as they were written a year+ ago and they are still together, its probably not about divorce.


    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,483
    Also, this isn't really cool to bring up on the boards.

  • GhostChile
    GhostChile Posts: 1,179
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, this isn't really cool to bring up on the boards.

    Why?
    Even Jeff told us to interpret the lyrics as we want and Im not judging or made a point of view about the divorce issue.

    Im just saying that to me, it seems that the whole album speaks about it. Respecfully.
    Mexico City 17/7/2003 Mexico City 18/7/2003 Mexico City 19/7/2003 Santiago Chile 22/11/2005 Santiago Chile 23/11/2005 Buenos Aires Argentina 13/11/2011 Santiago Chile 16/11/2011 Lima Perú 18/11/2011 Sao Paulo Brasil 31/3/2013 Buenos Aires Argentina 03/4/2013 Santiago Chile 06/5/2013 Santiago Chile 4/11/2015 Buenos Aires Argentina 7/11/2015 Porto Alegre Brasil 11/11/2015 Sao Paulo Brasil 14/11/2015 Brasilia Brasil 17/11/2015 Belo Horizonte Brasil 20/11/2015 Rio de Janeiro Brasil 22/11/2015 Bogota Colombia 25/11/2015 Mexico City 28/11/2015 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 8/4/2016 Miami, FL 9/4/2016 Tampa, FL 11/4/2016 Santiago Chile 13/3/2018 Santiago Chile 16/3/2018 Rome Italy 26/6/2018 Prague Czech Republic 1/7/2018 Krakow Poland 3/7/2018 Berlin Germany 5/7/2018 Barcelona Spain 10/7/2018 Dana Point, CA 1/10/2021 Dana Point, CA 2/10/2021 Seattle, WA 28/05/2024 Seattle, WA 30/05/2024 New Orleans, LA 03/05/2025
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,729
    GhostChile said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, this isn't really cool to bring up on the boards.

    Why?
    Even Jeff told us to interpret the lyrics as we want and Im not judging or made a point of view about the divorce issue.

    Im just saying that to me, it seems that the whole album speaks about it. Respecfully.
    Because a thread just like this got closed by Mods
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    edited April 2024
    lastexitlondon said:
    It all seems to be. ...
    Very sad really 
    Definitely feel sad after listening closely to this album. ☹️

    I’m used to Ed coming with some biting lyrics, political commentary or whatnot, and these just sound like he feels defeated.
    Post edited by OceansJenny on
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,463
    I definitely had the feels watching/listening to the lyrics in the theater. These are some sad songs, yet the arrangements and some lines here and there provide some hope. I’m trying to read it mostly as relationships (not necessarily specific to anyone) and just the state of all of our human connections today. It’s hard for people to come to common ground or not feel like they have to take a side (at least in the public/media/social media arena of things).

    Is that why he calls the album Dark Matter? It’s all this stuff that connects us, that we can’t really see, and can’t seem to figure out? I don’t know. I do love this album more and more though.
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 657
    edited April 2024
    Dare I say it feels like a concept album? About a divorce/separation. Not autobiographical. But like Pete Townsend rock opera esque. And we know how Eddie views Pete. 

    Songs are almost like the stages of grief. 

    Just a theory. 
    Post edited by DM282158 on
    Boston '06
    Mansfield '08
    Hartford '10
    Worcester, Hartford '13
    Global Citizen, NY '15
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited April 2024
    ^ stages of grief crossed my mind too

    One bit reminded me of the bargaining part 
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    I’m just glad it’s not overly political. I need a break from all of the craziness. 
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    DM282158 said:
    Dare I say it feels like a concept album? About a divorce/separation. Not autobiographical. But like Pete Townsend rock opera esque. And we know how Eddie views Pete. 

    Songs are almost like the stages of grief. 

    Just a theory. 
    I like this take. 
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,510
    edited April 2024
    It's definitely a concept album. I believe it is about a relationship, but not necessarily with a specific person, but rather entities.
    Post edited by KV4053 on
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 892
    DM282158 said:
    Dare I say it feels like a concept album? About a divorce/separation. Not autobiographical. But like Pete Townsend rock opera esque. And we know how Eddie views Pete. 

    Songs are almost like the stages of grief. 

    Just a theory. 
    I think it’s about grief, and mortality, and endings of all kinds. But not necessarily romantic. Scared of Fear, React, Respond, DM & Running are more disconnections in society. Upper Hand seems to be about approaching death. Setting Sun starts sounding like a breakup but by the end that’s maybe more mortality based too. Wreckage seems to be about a relationship ending but I wouldn’t assume it to be autobiographical, rock history is full of breakup songs. Won’t Tell is about a dream but gives some Dissident vibes too with the idea of keeping someone’s secrets. 
    I think most of these could be read multiple ways, but I absolutely don’t think they’re all supposed to be read the same way. 
    Also some of these songs were recorded almost 3 years ago so some of the theories debunk themselves.
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    I’ll have to look more into this concept album.   
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 735
    I don't think it's only about divorce. But I do think the lyrics are all about relationships with each other, and life. Divorce seems too limiting. 
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
    MSG 1 - '24

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